How’s The Overground To Enfield Town Doing?
In Transport for London Do The Sensible Thing, I said this.
Various news items on the Overground like this story in the Enfield Independent, have been reporting that the Class 315 and Class 317 Trains on the Lea Valley Lines are not very reliable. I’ve read somewhere that they are spending up to two million pounds to get them running better.
So I thought I had better go and check to see how the lines to Enfield were doing, by taking the train to Enfield Town from Hackney Downs and then walking to Enfield Chase to get a Class 313 train back home.
The pictures show the following.
1. An eight-car Class 315 train was working one of the last of the rush-hour services into Liverpool Street. So hopefully, London Overground have now got all services back up to their correct length.
2. Most trains I saw seemed to have a London Overground roundel on the side, even if they weren’t repainted.
3. I travelled out to Enfield Town in a very clean eight-car Class 317 train, that had been upgraded for the Stansted Express with tables, luggage racks and First Class. When was Enfield Town last served by a train so luxurious? In some ways it’s a waste, as surely there are other places, where as soon as the replacement Class 378 trains arrive, these old Stansted Expresses could be more gainfully employed.
Perhaps, they could serve Glasgow Airport? But then the Scots would complain, that they were getting London’s clapped-out second-hand trains. I noticed as I left that the train had had a full service in September last year. Old they may be, but they are far from scrapyard-ready! I suppose an old Mark 3-based train, is still a Mark 3-based train, with all the strength and ride quality that means.
4. In the meantime, this Class 317 train, is probably doing a good job in pacifying the natives of Enfield.
5. After my walk through Enfield Town centre, I got on a Class 313 train to get back to London. Now that is a clapped-out train and I wonder how many passengers for London from Enfield are thinking about changing their point of departure for London. If you commute and have a Freedom Pass, this is now unrestricted from Enfield Town, so this must have an effect on commuting pstterns.
6. I took the picture of the pantograph on the Class 313 train, as this is a special job, so that the trains can run in the restricted tunnels to Moorgate. It only needs to fold away very snuggly, as that section of line uses third rail for its electricity.
I will ask this question, about what I saw.
London Overground have put an option for 249 extra vehicles in the order for the Class 378 trains, as I reported in Have Transport for London Other Plans For The Overground?
So will some of these optional vehicles in the Class 378 order end up working the Great Northern lines into Moorgate and Kings Cross?
They have a lot going for them.
1. They are certified for working in tunnels, as on the East London Line, they run sixteen times each hour both ways through the Thames Tunnel.
2. There is a dual-voltage variant of the Class 378 train.
3. There would be the problem of designing a new pantograph well and certifying them for the Great Northern tunnel, but that is not as great a task as designing a whole new class of train.
It would probably be a special variant of the Class 378 train, but it hopefully, it would not be a difficult design to create.
We can do a little calculation on where the 249 extra vehicles might go.
Various documents show that by 2030, London Overground wants to be running six-car trains on the North and East London Lines. So if the existing fleet was all made six car, that would probably need 63 vehicles, as there are 57 trains on the system currently and another six are on order.
If we assume that Transport for London’s other target, the Dartford Lines, comes with some fairly new trains, this may or may not use up some of those options.
Taking the 63 off the 249 gives us 186 vehicles, which leaves 186, which can be 62 three-car trains or 46 four-car ones, with a few vehicles left over. Intriguingly, they could also be configured as 31 six-car trains.
So how many trains would be needed? At present the line is worked by 44 3-car trains. So if it was deemed that under London Overground, the service would be as now, there would be plenty of vehicles.
But as I pointed out, 186 vehicles gives us 31 six-car trains. Wikipedia states that the tunnels to Moorgate will accept trains of this length, so would it be a simple decision to make all the Great Northern trains six-car to turn the service into a higher-capacity, seven days a week, Metro service? As this would be a distinct variant, they might even be given a bit more performance to ease them along the East Coast Main Line to Hitchin. After all other members of the family to which a Class 378 belongs are 100 mph as opposed to 75 mph trains.
Running six-car walk-through trains into Morgate, rather than two three-car ones coupled together, gets rid of one of the restrictions of running in tunnels, which insists that passengers can walk through the train to get out in case of trouble.
So the more I look at this, the more I think, that Transport for London has an option on trains to work the Great Northern services.
As Transport for London have said, they might like to take over some of the inner Thameslink services, I suspect that the flies on the wall in meetings between Govia Thameslink Railway and Transport for London will have interesting tales to tell.
Have Transport for London Other Plans For The Overground?
It is now widely-publicised that Transport for London have started the process to get Class 378 trains delivered for the Lea Valley and Gospel Oak to Barking Lines. This article in Rail News gives full details.
But the History section in the Wikipedia entry for the Class 378 trains has this paragraph.
On 19 June 2015 it was announced that Bombardier had won a contract to supply a further 45 units, with an option for a possible 249 additional vehicles. The 45 units would comprise of 30 sets to replace class 315 and 317 units on the recently taken-over former Greater Anglia routes, one unit for use between Romford and Upminster, six to strengthen the existing London Overground fleet and eight units to replace the class 172 diesel units on Gospel Oak to Barking services.
So what are TfL proposing to do with the optional 249 vehicles, if it eventually is part of the order?
If they are four-car trains that would be over sixty sets, which as they need thirty sets for the current Lea Valley operation, would mean they could support two similar services of the same size.
It is an open secret,that Transport for London wants to be responsible for Dartford services from London, so that would probably require thirty to forty sets, which still leaves enough to takeover another service or perhaps add an extra car to all the five-car sets on the North and East London Lines.
Or could they be looking at the Great Northern services out of Moorgate and Kings Cross? These currently use forty-four rather clapped-out Class 313 trains, comprising 132 vehicles.
It just seems that we’re going to get a Big Orange!
The First Repainted Class 317 Train
This morning, I did two trips on this repainted Class 317 train, that was built in the early 1980s.
It would appear to have been running between Liverpool Street and Chingford.
The inside has not been touched other than by a team of people like Aggie MacKenie who have applied some no small amount of elbow grease. I did think it might be a relaid carpet, but it might just have been good cleaning. The tables at which I sat, were also clean enough to eat your lunch off.
I travelled one way with an American tourist, and she couldn’t believe the age of this train.
But as Wikipedia details, this train was refurbished to run the Stansted Express in 2000. So does that mean they’re really only fifteen years old?
Up And Down The Lea Valley Line Through Hackney
This morning, I went to Hackney Downs station and then took trains to Rectory Road, Stoke Newington, Cambridge Heath and Liverpool Street to see if the lines were improving.
I didn’t see that much had changed, except that the stations seemed a lot cleaner, but the staff were so much more enthusiastic than those who worked for Abellio Greater Anglia.
There was evidence of some painting at Stoke Newington, but neither Stoke Newington or Cambridge Heath had orange station boards and Overground signs outside.
I did get a ride in the first repainted Class 317 train.
Overground Customer Service At Work
You may ask, what this London Overground Customer Service Agent is doing on his knees at Hackney Downs station.
Overground Customer Service At Work
He’d spotted a raised man-hole cover and was taking a photograph to report it. He’d put a one pence coin by the hole.
A Raised Man-Hole Cover
Apparently, that is the standard for a hole being too big.
That is a very good practical way of measuring it.
Where Next For The Overground?
After the launch of the Overground on the Lea Valley Lines, which has probably gone ahead with just a few minor glitches and quite a lot of enthusiasm from staff and passengers, where next will the orange spider stretch its tentacles?
Passengers will have a big effect, as going Overground has some large benefits for passengers.
1. Transport for London’s fare structure is lower than that of National Rail.
2. Freedom Passes now have no annoying restrictions and this will generate traffic for the Overground, as I reported in The Chat On The Overground.
3. Overground likes to run at least four trains an hour all day every day.
4. Overground has station staff from when the first train arrives until the last one leaves.
So passengers in places, where perhaps one line is Overground and the other is Great Northern or Abellio Greater Anglia, may well go on the more affordable line with better service. This will be an argument that the better fare and service model will win.
These lines in North London must be prime candidates for Overgrounding.
Liverpool Street to Hertford East
One line that must be at the top of the list, is the remaining Lea Valley Line to Hertford East station, that is not currently under Overground control.
As this branch, is down as becoming part of Crossrail 2, surely to make it part of the Overground first would get all the stations up to a decent standard before they are incorporated into the new line.
Operationally too, having all of the shorter distance services from Liverpool Street must make sense.
The Northern City Line
The Northern City Line from Moorgate desperately needs development and new trains.
When Govia were awarded the Great Northern franchise, there were a lot of commitments, as detailed in Wikipedia. These included new trains for the Northern City Line to replace the elderly Class 313 trains and reading the details, it sounds very much like the Great Northern services will be run on Overground lines with at least four trains an hour at all times to very much improved stations.
Personally, I would also like this line to become a full seven day a week service, as it would ease travelling to places like Alexandra Palace on a weekend. A quality service on the line would also give me better access to Thameslink.
The big question with this line, if it is taken over by the Overground or TfL Rail, is how far you take the TfL-managed service; Hadley Wood, Welwyn Garden City or Stevenage.
Thameslink
It is well-known that TfL have their eyes on taking over at least the central part of Thameslink, especially as after it starts to operate in 2018, it will work almost like an Underground Line from between numerous places in North and South London with a high-frequency service and Londoners, commuters and frequent visitors will see it as part of the Underground/Overground/Crossrail network.
The Reaction Of The Other Train Operating Companies
The TOCs may or may not like running the short distance commuter services out of London. I have read comments like they make more money on long-distance services and if they need to cancel a train because of problems, it will be a commuter service.
But whatever they think, where there is an Overground or in the future, a Crossrail, alternative, they will lose revenue, if they don’t run to the Overground rules.
The Overground is taking a big stick to the TOCs and they will have to repond positively.
It Looks Like 315817 Is The Prototype Overground Class 315 Train
Since Sunday, I’ve ridden on quite a few Class 315 trains, both of the Overground and TfL Rail. Although, I saw 315817 on Monday at Enfield Town station, I hadn’t got a chance to ride in one that as one the Overground’s managers had told me, had spent ten days in the maintenance shop being cleaned, painted and dressed. Today, there had been overhead line problems, so what should turn up at Hackney Downs station after a longer than usual wait, but 315817.
In my view, the design of the new livery is good and the ten days in the shop were well spent.
Good points include.
1. Getting rid of the awful pink!
2. Cleverly adapting the Class 378 colours and fabric, so that costs of the refurbishment are minimised.
3. The new Tube-style route map and the cut down central Tube map. Harry Beck, Frank Pick et. al., set down a good set of rules.
4. Affordable seat refurbishment on the original frames.
When the train arrived at Liverpool Street, I noted it was an eight-car train, with an unrefurbished unit in tandem with 315817. But then eight-car trains are used quite regularly on Lea Valley Lines services in the peak periods.
So it would appear that if business becomes too much for four-car trains, London Overground will just couple them together and make them 8-car trains, thus avoiding the problems of success on the North and East London Lines.
And there is probably no shortage of Class 315 trains, with London Overground having seventeen of them and TfL Rail forty-four.
I do suspect though, that 315817 is probably the only train that has so far been refurbished. I look forward to see the rest as they trickle through.
Enfield Town Is Almost Ready For Boris
I went through Enfield and Enfield Town station this morning before nine thirty. I used my Freedom Pass, which of course I couldn’t have done before the Overground takeover.
Apart from the 307 bus from Oakwood tube station, that I used to get to Enfield, which still thought National Rail was in charge, there didn’t seem to be too much to fault.
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