Liverpool To Manchester Is Getting A Twenty-First Century Railway
One of the scandals of the UK rail network, is the train services between Liverpool and Manchester. The lines from these two cities to London were fully electrified by the mid-sixties and even Glasgow was reached in 1974. The details are on Wikipedia.
But the train services are still run mainly using some of Northern Rail’s scrapyard specials or Class 142 and Class 150 diesels as they prefer to call them. Are there two as important cities anywhere in the world, which has to put up with such terrible elderly rolling stock on a rail route between them.
It has always puzzled me, why this train service wasn’t electrified, as after all both cities are served by electrified main lines.
I have read that both Harold Wilson and Margaret Thatcher didn’t like trains, but surely electrifying the route between Liverpool and Manchester would give a boost to both cities.
On the other hand the other obvious pair of cities ripe for joining by an modern electrified railway are Edinburgh and Glasgow. And of course the original line via Falkirk is still run by diesel trains! You’d think that Blair or Brown would have found the funding for that to buy a few votes in Scotland!
But at last nearly fifty years after it should have been carried out as a follow-on to the West Coast Main Line, construction crews are working on the line. I took these pictures as they are upgrading Huyton station.
It’s all rather ironic to see this, giving Harold Wilson’s attitude to rail, considering that he was the MP for the area.
I took a train from Huyton to Leyland, so I didn’t see how far the electrification has got from the Manchester end, but work was obvious all the way from Huyton to Wigan North Western station.
There is no reason to believe that Class 319 electric trains will not be running between Liverpool and Manchester, on the planned December 2014 timetable change.
Whatever happens, Huyton will be getting a four-platform station with lifts between the platforms and the existing subway.
If all goes to plan, they’ll be getting an updated service between Liverpool and Manchester.
It’ll be interesting how this all works out by say the end of 2015. And then when all the electrification is completed in 2017.
1. Will the generally two trains per hour service frequency between Liverpool and Manchester Victoria be increased?
Even if they are not, they’ll be longer trains and they’ll be a lot faster. They’re will also be an improvement to the services that stop at all stations on the route, as the Class 319 trains are faster with much better acceleration.
2. As the line between Huyton and Wigan will be electrified, will there be electric services between Liverpool and stations on the West Coast Main Line?
Liverpool has a disadvantage here when compared to Manchester, in that there is significant traffic from Scotland to Manchester Airport. This was the reason that TransPennine introduced Class 350 trains on the Glasgow to Manchester Airport route. So Liverpool will never have as many direct trains from Scotland as Manchester.
At present generally about two trains per hour from Liverpool connect with perhaps a fifteen to twenty minute wait at either Wigan North Western or Preston for Scotland. The problem with introducing direct Liverpool to Scotland services is the lack of paths for trains. So perhaps we might see trains time-tabled to mean the change at say Preston was a simple walk across the platform.
An alternative would be to have two four-car trains from each of Manchester and Liverpool, join together at Preston for going onward to Carlisle and Scotland. Some train companies seem loathe to do this, whereas when done properly as I observed at Cambridge, it makes for an efficient railway.
3. Will the increase in the number of trains available for the route, mean an increase in late night services?
Obviously, there will have to be a need for the trains, but my train back from Wigan, wasn’t just two sad Ipswich fans and a guide dog.
One thing I found, when talking to some fellow passengers at Huyton, was how little some of them knew about the developments going on. Have Northern Rail and Network Rail got their PR right?
The Anonymous Widower 
I have spent many an hour freezing away on Huyton Station, it was always cold, the wind rushed down the line even in summer. And it was a dump with stinky toilets and litter. Prescot was no better. St Helens Shaw St as it was then, now St Helens Central, was better, at least you could wait under cover. But this was all 40 years ago (which makes me feel ancient) when I lived in St Helens. Now I live in Stockport nothing would induce me to attempt to get to Liverpool by train. I am not sure you can even get one directly. The trains into Manchester go into Victoria and you can’t get from Stockport to Victoria direct, they are at other ends of Manchester. I remember once taking the girls to Eureka in Halifax by train and the palaver of getting two kids across Manchester for the train was crazy – actually, now I come to think of it, when we took them we went by car, I think I went as a helper on trip with Brownies or Badgers or similar.
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