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Lord Carlile Says Control Orders Could Come Back

This is the title of a section of the BBC’s rolling news feed.

This is said.

The former independent reviewer of terrorism legislation says Theresa May could be looking to reintroduce control orders when she reviews the UK’s anti-terrorism strategy.

Lord Carlile of Berriew said if they had been in place, they “may have saved a lot of lives”.

Control orders were introduced by Tony Blair in 2005. The orders allowed suspects to be relocated away from their home communities, subjected them to 16-hour home-arrest curfews and barred them from using mobile phones or the internet.

They were replaced by Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures or Tpims in 2011.

If Lord Carlile says they might have saved a lot of lives, then they should surely be looked at.



June 4, 2017 - Posted by | World | ,


  1. I agree, looking at them is a good idea. What worries me is that we might end up with some hurriedly thought up and ill thought out measures which do more harm than good. Because why we want to stop the terrorists, we do not want to cause upset to the Muslim community who are as distressed as we are. Because that carries the risk of making bored Muslim your men in their late teens or early twenties ripe for radicalisation.

    Comment by nosnikrapzil | June 4, 2017 | Reply

  2. After all, a few years ago, the problem in some places was young Jamaican men. Some of the opinions, I’ve heard from sensible Jamaican women in the last couple of years, says that heroes like Usain Bolt and other athletes have been a big help in showing good examples of what can be achieved.

    Now you meet a lot more well-mannered, hard-working young men, who are proud to be Jamaican.

    Perhaps, young Muslim men need a hero?

    Comment by AnonW | June 4, 2017 | Reply

  3. Control orders rendered the subject incommunicado – no mobile, no internet and pretty much no comeback. A simpler solution would be that they can have both, but have agree that all communication is in the clear and read by MI5 / GCHQ.

    Comment by Mark Clayton | June 6, 2017 | Reply

    • I spoke to a lawyer, who had a lot to do with opposing Control Orders last night and they hadn’t a clue about what could be done. It’s a difficult on.

      A few years ago, a lawyer joked to me, that she’d never found an extremist of any religion, who treated his wife and children properly and totally in accordance with the law. She did add, that teachers, doctors and social workers could pick abuse out better and get it prosecuted.

      On the other hand, that might just push a few more over the edge and then commit a spur-of-the-moment attack, with a handy truck and knife.

      Comment by AnonW | June 7, 2017 | Reply

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