The Anonymous Widower

Is Electrification The Key To More Diesel Trains?

My two trips on Saturday to Norfolk and Tuesday to Wiltshire, show that sometimes off the main lines, the backbone of the trains are elderly Class 150, Class 153, Class 156 and others, which are totally overcrowded and inadequate for the task. Up North and even more far flung places, it’s even more grim with quite a few dreadful Pacers, which were built as a stopgap in the 1980s with a twenty year lifetime and don’t match the latest disability regulations.

So something drastic needs to be done.

On Tuesday, the crowded Class 150, I used between Salisbury and Westbury, was totally inadequate for the task of running a long distance service between Cardiff and Portsmouth. It was like expected four people with luggage to make the journey between the two cities in an Issigonis-designed Mini. I suppose you wouldn’t do it, unless you were hard up and wanted to get to Glastonbury.

The Class 153 train, that I used between Westbury and Swindon are probably adequate with a bit of refurbishment on branch lines like Ipswich to Felixstowe, but being only a single coach, if traffic continues to grow, they will be totally packed for much of the day.

The Class 156 trains, I used in Norfolk had been updated with new disabled toilets and are probably ideal for the East Anglian branch lines, until traffic means that three carriages are needed.

The Class 153 and 156 trains can probably soldier on reliably for some years after refurbishment, but I doubt there is much future for the Class 150, unless a clever engineer/designer comes up with a solution, that converts them into something completely different. They could certainly be msade good enough to replace the single coach Class 153s on routes like Ipswich to Felixstowe.

When I travel to somewhere like Blackpool, Barnsley or to Sheffield via Doncaster, I sometimes end up on a Pacer, as I did here. The title of the post, which is In Style to Sheffield And Then This, sums up Pacers in my mind.

As a lot of visitors will encounter Pacers, as I did as the last leg of a journey to the area, the managers of such as Virgin, East Coast and the other long distance companies, must despair that their passengers have their journey ruined by the connecting train. How many say go from London to Scunthorpe once by train and never do it again because of the inadequate Pacers?

But hope for the end of these dreadful trains is at hand if Modern Railways is to be believed, with an article with a headline of Pacer Replacement Likely. It is all down to the replacement Northern Rail franchise, which I suspect is unviable financially and possibly illegal with a third of the fleet being inadequate and unable to meet the disability regulations.

London Overground has shown how you replace trains. Until quite recently, the North London Line was served by Class 313 trains built in the 1970s. Al;though even older than Pacers, some are still running on the network after refurbishment, and to travel in one is an experience that is almost twice as good as travelling in a Pacer. But even some of these are destined for the scrapyard in the next few years according to Modern Railways.

London Overground replaced its Class 313s with new Class 378 trains. These were designed to be three coach trains and have been lengthened to four and are now going to five, by just plugging extra coaches in the middle. I’ve no idea what the limit is for trains of this family, but Greater Anglia regularly couple their closely-related Class 379 trains together to make longer trains.

But these trains are electric, although they do have a diesel cousin, the Class 172, which comes in both two and three coach versions. So it would appear that they can be lengthened in a similar fashion to the Class 378 on the Overground.

In a sane and sensible world with money everywhere, you’d have Class 172 or something with a similar nature coming out of the factories to replace the Pacers and Class 150s.

As the Class 172 trains are British-built in Derby by Bombardier, there is surely a strong case to keep the production lines busy there and use them as replacements across the network. As London Overground and other operators have shown, these trains work well and having a type that is widespread must help with Maintenance and staff training.

Wikipedia’s entry for the Class 172, says this about new orders for the type.

As part of its franchise agreement, London Midland has an option to purchase an additional 26 Class 172 vehicles which could potentially allow further cascade of its existing rolling stock.

In 2008, First Great Western applied to the Department for Transport to re-equip its Cardiff to Portsmouth via Bristol services with 11 new four-car DMUs which would potentially allow the existing Class 158 Express Sprinter trains to be transferred to other services. According to the West of England Partnership, these were likely to be “similar to Class 170s”, suggesting that they might be Class 172 Turbostars.

The Government announced in December 2008 that Bombardier, with its Turbostar design, was one of the pre-qualified bidders (along with CSR of China, CAF of Spain and Rotem of South Korea) for the first 200 DMU vehicles of its planned 1300 new carriages. These new trains were intended for use on suburban and inter-urban services operated by First Great Western, First TransPennine Express and Northern Rail. However, with the announcement of the electrification schemes in the North West and on the Great Western Main Line, the DMU order was cancelled, with the needs of the train operating companies planned to be met by transfers of existing stock.

But why do we need to get the new trains built outside of the UK?

The piece talks about the transfer of stock, as lines are electrified. In fact, eight virtually-new Class 172s will become surplus, when the Gospel Oak to Barking line is electrified. According to this article in the Barking and Dagenham Post, this will happen by 2017.

But as my trip to Westbury showed, some of the worst problems are on longer services like Portsmouth to Cardiff, which probably have to be run using diesel trains. But as the extract shows, First Great Western is pressing to get new and better trains on that route.

From personal experience in the last few years, there are a host of services, where more and longer diesel services are required.

One collection of routes, I have talked about for years is the lines from Ipswich and Norwich to Peterborough and on to Birmingham, Nottingham and Liverpool.

Some of the lines within East Anglia , like Cambridge to Norwich and Ipswich, and Ipswich to Lowestoft, could also benefit from more trains. But hopefully,as I pointed out here, electrification is the key and that would release trains to improve the secindary routes and branch lines.

Sheffied to Leeds, Hull and Manchester, are three lines where the trains are a discouragement to travel. Eventually, these three lines will get electrified, but in the meantime. some longer and more modern trains would be very welcome.

Obviously we could just build more trains, but trains are expensive at about £1.5million a coach, if all of the other things are taken into account.

However, we do have electric trains that are being replaced by new trains.

First Capital Connect has a lot of electric trains that will not be needed when the new Class 700 trains replace them. As there is going to be 60, eight-car and 55, twelve-car trains, there will be a lot of Class 319 and Class 377 sets to be moved on.

The Cl;ass 377 are virtually new, whereas the Class 319 are from the late 1980s. I’ve travelled on the Class 377 trains regularly and as multiple units go, there are many worse examples on the UK’s railways.

According to Wikipedia, these are the plans for the Class 319, once they are replaced, by the Class 700.

As part of its announcement of the electrification of both the Great Western Main Line and the Liverpool to Manchester (via Newton Le Willows) route, the Government has announced that when new Class 700 Thameslink rolling stock arrives from 2015-2018, Class 319s will be refurbished, fitted with air-conditioning, and transferred to the following two routes:

Suburban services between Oxford, Newbury, Reading and London
Manchester Airport to Liverpool Lime Street and Manchester Victoria to Liverpool Lime Street services

On 2 April 2014 it was announced that the first 14 units would be transferred to Allerton Depot in time to enter service between Manchester and Liverpool from the December 2014 timetable change.

So as electrification progresses, these trains will release much-needed diesel trains.

The other big schemes like the Great Western Main Line and Midland Main Line electrification, and Crossrail will also see lots of new trains and push out older electric and diesel sets for other uses.

Probably one of the biggest problem or opportunity is what to do with all the High Speed Diesel Trains. I suspect some will worm their way into all sorts of strange places, where the designer and his team, never dreamt they could ever be used.

No-one makes predictions where these trains are concerned, as they are held in such tremendous affection by staff and passengers alike. Their replacement on the Great Western and East Coast Main Lines, the Class 800 and 801 have a very hard act to follow!

We appear to be going round in virtuous circles. So I think the answer to the question I posed is yes!

June 26, 2014 - Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Electrification, Trains