The Anonymous Widower

The Trains Going North

Today, I went from East Croydon to Luton and then on to Bedford in two Class 319 electric trains.

They were originally going to be fully refurbished, but now according to Wikipedia, the refurbishment will be more basic.

The cascaded trains will get a more basic refurbishment than previously proposed, which will include a new Passenger Information system, LED lighting, new seat covers and an internal and external repaint.

It will be interesting to see the trains in Lancashire. Certainly, the ones I rode today had a poor passenger information system and too much awful pink paint.

But the plus point is like all Mark 3-derived trains, they rode smoothly and quickly through the countryside, at speeds approaching their maximum of 100 mph.

October 28, 2014 - Posted by | Transport | , , ,


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  3. […] electrification should improve the perception of the resort, as refurbished Class 319 trains are so much better and bigger than most of the trains working the line […]

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  4. […] my view the limited updating has been done well. The awful colour scheme shown in these pictures, when the trains ran between Brighton and Bedford has gone and the seats were certainly more […]

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  5. I have ridden these southern cast-offs several times between Manchester Airport and Liverpool. Compared to the 323s on our local line (Manchester – Crewe) they feel positively antediluvian! With their aged DC traction motors whining like an old tram they are slow to accelerate, whereas a 323 will push you back in the seat as its modern AC traction motors with solid state control hustles the train along with whining or fussing. And the seat/window positioning in these 319s is a bad as can be contrived – the back-to-back seats have the seat backs in the centre of each window so passengers get a few inches of window to look through and then a solid inter-window wall! In contrast in a 323 the seat backs are between the windows so each seat enjoys a full window view.

    Comment by Vince Chadwick | March 30, 2016 | Reply

    • I didn’t say they were the best, but the refurb has made them better than I thought it would.

      The real disgrace in the North are the Class 185 trains, which are too small and too few in number. But they were bought by the Treasury, when Gordon Brown was bailing out the Scoittish Banks.They should have saved them, like they did Northern Rock and Bradford and Bingley, by separating the good from the bad. Instead Brown ruined Lloyds as well.

      But then he was trying to buy Scottish votes for the Labour Party. Was it successful? I don’t think so, unless you are an SNP politician.

      Comment by AnonW | March 31, 2016 | Reply

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