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Bakerloo Line Extension | TfL Instructs Consultants To Work Up Tunnel Designs

The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on New Civil Engineer.

This project is the Mayor’s pet, as it is good for those that vote for him in South London.

But I believe that the West London Orbital Railway should have a higher priority as it serves an area that is in massive need of improvement in public transport and can be delivered quickly and for a lot less money.

November 1, 2021 - Posted by | Transport/Travel | , , , ,


  1. This is what TfL have to say about the West London Orbital Line
    “If funding can be identified – and we get all approvals needed for the scheme – then services could start in the late 2020s.”
    Personally as someone South West of London I can see all of the benefits such a line provides access to the West, North West of London, HS2 avoiding the centre and access to the North London Line.
    Oh and BTW, I also used to use South Acton in my last contract with LUL’s Railway Engineering Works, just down the road from there.

    Comment by fammorris | November 1, 2021 | Reply

  2. Although I live in East London, looking at the Tube map, surely it should be a priority to extend the limited Underground network in South London, regardless of who is Mayor? Even Tory Bromley is in favour of the extension.

    Comment by JohnC | November 1, 2021 | Reply

  3. When one thinks back to when Ken Livingstone was Mayor of London he always seemed to have a project in the drawer so when the DFT suddenly announced funds were available for capital expenditures he had a project to submit for London!

    While we have the Bakerloo Line extentsion it’s cost makes it harder to obtain funding compared to say an extension of Tramlink or the DLR .

    While the plans to introduce passengers to a freight line in west London alingns better with recent announcements to take forward plans for passengers on freight lines which have received funding in the recent budget. So the plans for the branch in Hounslow linking to existing Overground with both new stations and upgrades to existing stations as part of interchanges has more chance of getting the go ahead and can be delivered more quickly.

    As for the Bakerloo Line extentsion the recent accident at Waterloo Station linked to the curvature of the Bakerloo Line suggests the Bakerloo Line extentsion needs to be extended towards Waterloo with perhaps new platforms and if need be closure of Lambeth North Station and depot if Bakerloo Line was diverted via a more direct route south of the Thames !

    Comment by Melvyn | November 1, 2021 | Reply

  4. You make some excellent points.

    I also believe that the Bakerloo Line is not fit for purpose North of the Thames and could be merged with the Watford DC Line to create a Bakerloo Line with two Southern terminals; Elephant and Castle and Euston.

    We should also look seriously at the proven benefits of digital signalling on Underground lines like the Victoria and Jubilee, which we are now appearing on the sb-surface lines.

    What would be the effects, if some of the National Rail lines in South London were digitally signalled?

    As an example what would be the effect, if the Hayes Line were to be digitally-signalled? Currently, the off-peak frequency is just four tph.

    I shall be writing a post detailing my ideas.

    Comment by AnonW | November 1, 2021 | Reply

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