The Anonymous Widower

Double-Decker Trains for HS2

According to the Sunday Times today, a design consultancy, Priestmangoode has been asked to make the trains on HS2 as sexy as possible.

I’m all for this and have stated that we should make trains more passenger friendly several times.  Here’s a piece where I advocated a better approach to the trains to the West Country and the north of Scotland from London using rebuilt High Speed Diesel Trains.

Transport for London have used this design-led approach on the New Bus for London and I hope it goes well for them, when the bus is introduced next month.

So get the trains right and of course build them in the UK and we might have a railway to be proud of.  As someone, who’s travelled from London to Nice on Eurostar and a TGV Duplex, we don’t have much competition from the French.  The TGV Duplex may look impressive on the outside, but inside it’s rather cramped and stuffy and the ride is not as good as a High Speed Diesel Train.

January 8, 2012 - Posted by | Design, Transport/Travel | , , , ,

3 Comments »

  1. […] the Sunday Times pointed out at the weekend design is getting better and the trains on HS2 could be a lot better than Eurostar. We might also see other technologies […]

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  2. Why not just double decker the current trains? That’ll double capacity instantly, and increasing the height of bridges en route would surely cost less?

    Comment by Brit abroad | April 12, 2012 | Reply

    • It’s not as simple as you think. Because of the time to get up and down stairs at stops, it also means the trains are slower. I once travelled to the South of France on a TGV Duplex. Not a good experience. Note that these are the only fast long distance, double-deck trains in the world. Normally, double-deck is just used for short-distance high-capacity services. It was tried in the UK by Southern Railways between the wars and discontinued.

      There is also the safety issue, if one leaves the track and turns over. Forget about the Grayrigg accident, as that was bad maintenance and hopefully won’t happen again, but there’s always the chance of a Great Heck type of collision caused by road traffic. The French have even had them with TGVs. I wouldn’t want to be in a double-deck train having an accident at 200 kph.

      Comment by AnonW | April 12, 2012 | Reply


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