The Anonymous Widower

Abbey Wood Station – 29th August 2016

Abbey Wood Station, now appears to have two completed Southeastern platforms.


  • The two Southeastern platforms form a wide island platform, which is numbered 1 and 2
  • It would appear that there will be a second island platform for Crossrail. Could they be numbered 3 and 4?
  • I also think, that both island platforms will be connected to the station building on the overbridge, by escalators and lifts
  • It does seem to me that the space is a bit limited for the two Crossrail platforms and their overhead wires.

All pictures seem to show that the Southeastern lines are on the Southern pair of tracks and the Crossrail ones are on the Northern pair.

But under Future in the Wikipedia entry for Abbey Wood station, this is said.

Abbey Wood is being rebuilt in preparation for Crossrail, due to commence operation in 2018. Abbey Wood is the terminus of one of two eastern branches of Crossrail and will offer cross-platform interchange between terminating Crossrail services (at 12 trains per hour on new line) and existing Southeastern services (along existing tracks). This is instead of continuing services to Ebbsfleet International along existing tracks as those lines are congested and may delay Crossrail services.

Does cross-platform interchange mean that one Crossrail and one Southeastern track will share each platform?

This visualisation of the station doesn’t give any definite clues.

Abbey Wood Station

Abbey Wood Station

If we look at the morning peak and Southeastern trains turn up in Platform 1, with lots of passengers for Crossrail, surely if they’ve all got to go up one escalator and down another to get to Crossrail on the other island platform, it is a inefficient passenger flow, compared to a simple cross-platform interchange.

The reverse would happen in the evening.

So it must just be possible, that each island platform will have one Southeastern line and one Crossrail line.

Those Frenchmen at have this view of the lines between Plumstead and Abbey Wood stations.

Crossrail Between Plumstead And Abbey Wood Stations

Crossrail Between Plumstead And Abbey Wood Stations

The map would appear to show the following.

  • Platform 4 is a bay platform used by Crossrail and it is directly connected to the down (from London) Crossrail line.
  • Platform 3 is directly connected to the up (towards London) Crossrail Line.
  • There is no Crossrail lines shown to the East of Abbey Wood station.
  • There is only one crossover between the two Crossrail lines, to allow trains from London to call at Platform 3 at Abbey Wood.
  • The next crossovers on Crossrail, are at Custom House station.
  • How do trains arriving in Platform 4 at Abbey Wood, get onto the up line through the tunnels?
  • There would appear to have to be changes to the tracks, if Crossrail services are to be extended beyond Abbey Wood station.

I wonder if service levels give us any clues.

  • At present there are eight Southeastern services per hour (tph) running through the station in the Off Peak.
  • Six services go to and from Cannon Street and two terminate at Charing Cross.
  • Wikipedia says Crossrail will run 12 tph in the Peak and 8 tph in the Off Peak.

Surely in an ideal world, if both services have an 8 tph frequency, it should be arranged that they the two services have a cross-platform interchange.

It should all be as clear as mud, in a few months.

August 29, 2016 Posted by | Transport | , | 3 Comments

Details Of The New London Bridge Station

These are a selection of pictures showing design details of the new London Bridge station.

One thing that is noticeable, is that the station is very information rich. Are Network Rail trying to get passengers through the station with the minimum of questions asked to staff?

I will probably add some more pictures.

August 29, 2016 Posted by | Transport | , | 1 Comment

London Bridge Station Wakes Up

Part of the new concourse of London Bridge station opened at five o’clock this morning.

I got there around 05:30, so at least there would be some light.

Points to note.

  • The concourse is underneath the platforms.
  • Often when this is done, as at Brussels Midi, the concourse is dark and claustrophobic. London Bridge certainly isn’t, as natural light is allowed in and there are masses of LED lights.
  • The concourse is split into an open side and one where you must have a valid ticket.
  • Escalators join the platforms in the centre.
  • The island platforms have three escalators, two sets of stairs and a lift.
  • The first through platform; 8 and 9 for Charing Cross, form a wide island platform.
  • If platforms 4 and 5 for Thameslink, are as wide as 8 and 9, they will be a game-changer for those with limited mobility on Thameslink.
  • Currently, the only dreary public area, is the old cross-passage between Tooley Street and Guy’s Hospital, but that dates from a few years ago and is probably going to be updated.

It is certainly a very good start.

August 29, 2016 Posted by | Transport | , , | 2 Comments