Piles, Masts And Rubbish
I took these pictures whilst travelling between Upper Holloway and Gospel Oak stations on the Gospel Oak To Barking Line.
There’s quite a bit to do.
- But it does appear thata good proportion of the piles are in the ground to the West of Blackhorse Road station, with masts already erected in some.
- The platforms, like those at Upper Holloway, need extending back to their original length.
- The large number of piles dumped by the track, to the West of Upper Holloway station is probably because they will be needed to electrify the route to Carlton Road Junction.
- There is quite a bit of rubbish to clear up.
This map from carto.metro.free.fr shows the lines in the area.
Trains will certainly be able travel to and from the East on the Gospel Oak to Barking Line to and from the North on the Midland Main Line, but will any of the other chords in the junction be reinstated?
|And will Junction Road station be rebuilt and connected to Tufnell Park tube station?
April 20, 2016 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Electrification, Gospel Oak And Barking Line | Leave a comment
Masts Are Sprouting On The Goblin
I took these pictures of the new electrification masts going up on the Gospel Oak to Barking Line (GOBlin)
The piles seem to be very strong, but the masts are a touch more dainty, than those on the Great Western Main Line.
April 11, 2016 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Electrification, Gospel Oak And Barking Line | Leave a comment
In The Land Of The Giants
In Defining The GOBlin Extension To Barking Riverside, I traced how the extension will get to the new station. This is a map from the TfL report, which shows the route of the extension.
And this is an image of the viaduct that takes the extension over Choats Road.
Today, I went to Barking station and took an EL2 bus to Dagenham Dock station.
I took these pictures as the bus went along Choats Road.
The area is certainly one with some of the largest electricity pylons.
Even so, you can understand why the TfL report says this about the viaduct.
After passing under Renwick Road, the alignment would climb on a viaduct curving south towards Barking Riverside, crossing the Freight Terminal, westbound Tilbury lines and Choats Road. The viaduct would then descend to pass under the existing high voltage power line south of Choats Road, before again rising and continuing towards a station at Barking Riverside.
This Google map certainly shows there is a lot of space.
It will be interesting to see what the final layout will be.
- The viaduct that crosses Choats Road must be high enough to allow double-deck buses and other high vehicles to pass underneath.
- The TfL route map appears to show that the viaduct follows roughly the line of the pylons to the site of Barking Riverside station.
- Vertical separation of overhead wires on the viaduct and the power lines could be a problem!
- The rail line can’t go too close to the houses.
If the branch were to be built without electrification and services were to be run using the Aventras fitted with on-board energy storage, it would ease the design of the viaduct.
March 7, 2016 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Barking Riverside, Gospel Oak And Barking Line | 2 Comments
All Quiet On The IPEMU Front
Type IPEMU into Google News and you don’t get many recent stories about Bombardier’s Independently Powered Electric Multiple Unit.
The newest story is this article from the Derby Telegraph, which is dated the 7th December 2015 and is entitled Battery-powered trains win award for Bombardier.
Most of the others relate to the trial of the technology using a Class 379 train in early 2015. I rode this train and I have a feeling that a lot of serious rail journalists and commentators didn’t!
Before I rode the train, I thought the technology could be a bit naff and gimmicky, pandering to the green lobby.
But after riding through the Essex countryside and reading about the physics of steel wheel and steel rail, I realise that Bombardier, Network Rail and their partners are serious about the development and have produced a train with the following characteristics.
- To a passenger, it looks, feels and rides like a standard electrical multiple unit.
- The IPEMU can run for over fifty miles using the on-board energy storage charged when running under power from overhead lines or third-rail.
- The train has a limited diversion capability, if say the wires are down.
- The performance is similar on energy storage to when running from external power.
- Drivers can be easily converted to the IPEMU variant.
The document on the Bombardier web site, which is entitled Battery-Driven Bombardier Electrostar gives more insight into the developers’ thinking.
Rumours In Modern Railways
Two articles in Modern Railways have linked IPEMU capability to two train purchases.
- In September 2015, it is stated that some Class 387 trains for the Great Western Railway could be battery-powered.
- In October 2015, it is stated the Merseytravel is seriously considering IPEMU technology in a new train order, to reduce energy use and the overall cost of train ownership.
Nothing further has been published about these possible orders.
Aventras And Energy Storage
When Transport for London ordered new Class 710 trains for the London Overground, I took a look a detailed look at the trains and posted Will The London Overground Aventras Have Energy Storage?
According to this article in Global Rail News, which is entitled Bombardier’s AVENTRA – A new era in train performance, the Aventra has the capacity to fit onboard energy storage. This is said.
AVENTRA can run on both 25kV AC and 750V DC power – the high-efficiency transformers being another area where a heavier component was chosen because, in the long term, it’s cheaper to run. Pairs of cars will run off a common power bus with a converter on one car powering both. The other car can be fitted with power storage devices such as super-capacitors or Lithium-Iron batteries if required.
Bombardier have confirmed this to me.
Bombardier’s Plans
So what are Bombardier doing now?
This article in Rail Technology Magazine is entitled Bombardier enters key analysis phase of IPEMU and is a detailed article on everything Bombardier are doing to convert the prototype into a real train, that can be sold to demanding customers.
- Four different types of battery are being evaluated in Mannheim.
- A simulated five-year test is being performed.
- Bombardier are taking a serious look at the branch-line market.
- Bombardier are evaluating the retrofit market with particular reference to the Class 387 and Class 378 trains.
This is all very sound stuff and in some ways it makes a change to fully-develop the product before launch rather than expect train operators and passengers to find the problems.
One thing that is surprising, is that Class 378 trains are being looked at for the retrofit of onboard energy storage. I cover this in detail in Will London Overground Fit On-Board Energy Storage To Class 378 Trains?
I came to the conclusion, that Class 378 retrofit is a decision for the accountants.
But it does seem to have gone exceedingly quiet.
March 7, 2016 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Barking Riverside, Gospel Oak And Barking Line, IPEMU, Trains | Leave a comment
Defining The GOBlin Extension To Barking Riverside
Transport for London have published the results of their consultation on proposals to extend the for Gospel Oak to Barking Line (GOBlin) from Barking station to Barking Riverside.
To see the full report visit tfl.gov.uk/barking-riverside.
The main points are summarised in the next few sections.
Class 710 Trains
After the electrification of the GOBlin, services will be run using Class 710 trains, which although the line will be fully-electrified using overhead 25kVAC, will be the dual-voltage variant able to run on 750 VDC.
I would assume that this is so that the trains can go past Gospel Oak station to access parts of the North London Line and West London Line that have third-rail electrification and are shared with both London Underground and Southern Electric trains.
Bombardier have also told me, that all Aventra trains are wired so that an on-board energy storage capability can be installed.
When I rode the prototype for this IPEMU technology in public service between Manningtree and Harwich, it felt exactly like a standard Class 379 train and one of Bombardier’s engineers told me the battery range was upwards of fifty miles with a similar performance to the standard train.
In the remainder of this post, I will use Aventra IPEMU (Independently Powered Electric Multiple Unit) to indicate an Aventra Class 710 train with an on-board energy storage capability.
Because prospective routes for Aventra like the East London Line and Merseyrail run in longish tunnels, I would think it very likely that Aventras will be certified for tunnels like the Thames Tunnel or those under Liverpool.
Transport for London have certainly ordered a train, that doesn’t limit development of new routes linked to the GOBlin.
Lines At Barking Station
This map from carto.metro.free.fr shows the rail lines around Barking station.
The lines radiating from the station are as follows, taking them in a clockwise direction from the South West.
- District and Metropolitan Line services of the London Underground and c2c services to Fenchurch Street pass through East Ham station.
- GOBlin services to the West, freight trains crossing London and the occasional c2c service to Liverpool Street pass through Woodgrange Park station.
- District Line services to Upminster and the East and c2c services via Basildon take the lines through Upney station.
- c2c services via Rainham, freight trains crossing London and the proposed Barking Riverside service take the lines going vaguely to the South East.
Three platforms will be used at Barking station for GOBlin services, which come into the station from Woodgrange Park in the West and from Barking Riverside in the South East.
- Platform 1 which is the current terminus of the GOBlin will be retained and would remain available to Overground trains at Barking Station to aid service recovery during periods of disruption.
- Platform 7 which is currently used by eastbound c2c trains via Rainham, will also be used by GOBlin trains going to Barking Riverside.
- Platform 8 which is currently used by c2c trains from Rainham to Fenchurch Street, will also be used by GOBlin trains coming from Barking Riverside.
As can be seen on the map, there is a double-track flyover to connect Platforms 7 and 8, which are the two southernmost platforms to the GOBlin to the west.
The only platform and its associated connecting lines that doesn’t have any electrification is platform 1.
Changing Trains At Barking Station
The GOBlin services and c2c services via Rainham will share the island platform 7 and 8 at Barking, which could mean some easier step-free journeys for some passengers.
Plans exist for redevelopment at Barking station and I wonder if architects and planners can come up with a better layout for the station, that will become increasingly important as an interchange. Especially as the station is shared by three ambitious operators; London Overground, London Underground and c2c. All these operators have expansion and/or improvement plans for services through Barking.
Electrification of Platform 1 At Barking Station
No electrification work has happened on this platform until now and the platform could be electrified in the normal manner.
However, it may be more affordable to fit all the Class 710 trains with an IPEMU capability and run them in and out of the platform using the on-board energy storage.
The platform could also be electrified using London Underground’s system to create another bay platform for the District and Metropolitan Lines, if that was to be needed. This would not stop the platform being used by the dual-voltage Class 710 trains,
Obviously, the route planners and the accountants will decide.
Renwick Road Station
This map shows the layout of the extension.
Note now the new line curves away south after passing under Renwick Road. This Google Map shows the area.
One recommendation of the consultation is to install passive provision for a new station at Renwick Road, which eventually would make the extension a two-station branch.
The station is proposed to be a simple island platform design and TfL’s maps show it on the Western side of Renwick Road. There would appear to be plenty of space.
Barking To Renwick Road
On creating the required two lines between Barking and Renwick Road, the report doesn’t indicate, it’s anything other than a simple construction project.
Renwick Road to Barking Riverside
The line is proposed to curve off and over the rail lines and roads on a double-track viaduct, which is shown in blue on TfL’s map. The TfL report says this.
After passing under Renwick Road, the alignment would climb on a viaduct curving south towards Barking Riverside, crossing the Freight Terminal, westbound Tilbury lines and Choats Road. The viaduct would then descend to pass under the existing high voltage power line south of Choats Road, before again rising and continuing towards a station at Barking Riverside.
So it looks that the viaduct goes all the way to Barking Riverside station.
Barking Riverside Station
The proposed layout of the station is described in the TfL report.
The station would be designed to fit the look and feel expected of stations on the London Overground network, and would include the provision of step free access from street to platform and platform to train. Other features of the station would include: a ground floor ticket hall, CCTV, help points, customer information systems and secure cycle parking.
The platform level would be on the upper floor as an extension of the viaduct structure. The station ticket hall would provide direct access to Renwick Road and the separation between the railway infrastructure and ground floor ticket hall would allow additional uses to be made of the space, such as: cash machines, cafe and retail opportunities. The station design would include cladding for weather protection, including a canopy to part of the platform to allow sheltered access to trains.
So it would appear the trains are on the upper floor above the station facilities, shops and cafes.
I think this is to ensure that once the trains have passed over the Tilbury Line to Rainham and the freight tunnel, they run fairly level into Barking Riverside station. It could also mean that if the line is extended to Abbey Wood station under the Thames, the track layout to achieve this is not too complicated.
This Google Map shows the location of the station in Barking Riverside.
Note.
- TfL’s map shows the station is alongside Renwick Road, where it joins River Road.
- It is perhaps a couple of hundred metres from the river.
- The housing area of Thamesmead is opposite.
- Trains could take a straight route to a possible Thames tunnel.
I think it all shows that the design of the station has been thought over long and hard.
Electrification Of The Barking Riverside Extension
The total length of the extension from Barking to Barking Riverside is 4 km., with just 1.5 km. of new line.
As with Platform 1 at Barking station, the Class 710 trains give the option of not-electrifying all or part of the extension.
Consider.
- The performance of an Aventra IPEMU running on on-board energy storage, that had been charged before Renwick Road is such, that I believe it could easily handle the extension with a full train of passengers.
- The viaduct can be built with provision for future electrification.
- As mentioned in the TfL report, the line has to be carefully profiled to avoid existing power lines. An extension without electrification, would give extra clearance.
- The Barking Riverside station design is simplified, if it is not electrified.
- The area has overhead wires everywhere and a stylish viaduct without overhead wiring could have a less negative visual impact.
- Are IPEMU trains running using on-board energy storage quieter than those using overhead wires?
But not electrifying the line from Renwick Road to Barking Riverside would reduce the complication and cost of the extension.
Intriguingly, the full TfL report only mentions overhead wires once, talking consistently about four car electric trains and a fully-electrified line.
Nothing in the TfL report precludes the use of Aventra IPEMUs to Barking Riverside and whether this route is chosen will depend on design and environmental issues, and the accountants.
Under The Thames To Thamesmead And Abbey Wood
It is planned to incorporate passive provision, so that the line can be continued in a tunnel under the River Thames.
Barking Riverside station appears to have been designed with several features to aid this continuation.
- Trains could pass through the station on their way to or from the tunnel.
- The route from the station to the tunnel would probably not need any sharp curves.
- Barking, Barking Riverside and Renwick Road stations would probably be sufficient to handle passengers on the north side of the river.
- There appears to be nothing of any importance between the Barking Riverside station site and the Thames, so it should be easy to safeguard a route.
- Barking Riverside station is elevated, so this potential energy could help to propel a train under the river.
- A crude estimate says that from Barking Riverside station to the other side of the river is about two kilometres.
The engineers involved in the Barking Riverside extension have certainly made provision to extend the railway under the Thames.
This Google Map shows Thamesmead and the Thames.
Note River Road and Barking Riverside on the north bank of the river, Abbey Wood station with Crossrail and the North Kent Line in the South and Crossness to the East.
I don’t know the Thamesmead area well at all, and from these maps, I can’t work out whether a surface railway could be run to Abbey Wood station from the southern tunnel entrance.
However, a tunnel all the way with intermediate stops would surely be possible.
- As London Underground have thought about extending the Jubilee Line to Thamesmead, I suspect that the area would be amenable to the right type of tunnel boring machine.
- The tunnel could be bored under the A2041 if a direct route were to be chosen.
- A trip from Barking to Abbey Wood and back is probably about twenty kilometres.
- Aventra IPEMUs could handle the route with ease.
- If Aventra IPEMUs used on-board energy storage in the tunnels, the tunnels could be built without electrification.
I believe that there is an affordable innovative solution to extending the Barking Riverside extension under the Thames.
I do question if an extension to Abbey Wood will be needed, as when Crossrail opens, it will be possible to travel from Barking to Abbey Wood with a single change at Whitechapel from the District/Metropolitan Lines to Crossrail.
Conclusion
As it should be, I think it is a well-thought plan.
As to whether the Class 710 trains will use a possible IPEMU capability, nothing is stated, but I believe the proposed design could be very IPEMU-friendly and using IPEMUs would be advantageous on cost, noise and visual grounds.
Their only downside is that they could get derided as battery trains.
I also have the feeling that if the extension does use the IPEMU capability of the trains, the extension will become a model for other extensions and branch lines all over the UK.
March 4, 2016 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Barking Riverside, Goblin Extension, Gospel Oak And Barking Line, IPEMU | 3 Comments
Progress On The Gospel Oak To Barking Electrification – 15th February 2016
I intend to do a post like this every so often, when I travel on the line.
At the moment I’m rather surprised at the progress or in some areas the lack of it on the electrification of the line.
- Piles for the electrification are best described as spasmodic and it would appear to me, that they could be having problems getting them into the ground.
- Some piles have been put in on the link to the East Coast Main Line.
- On the viaduct section, from the train there appears to be no work, although I am suspicious that the brickwork now been notches in places for overhead gantries.
- I still feel that there is the possibility of supporting the wires from between the tracks, as is done in many places on the Continent.
- Nothing much appears to have been done on any of the stations except moving some utilities and platform furniture.
- There has been no clearing of existing overgrown platform extensions or marking where the gantries will go.
I just feel that with the closures so far, that more would have been done.
Especially, as it would be good for so many reasons, if the closures were minimised, by doing as much work before they happen.
This link gives the latest closures on the line. Currently it is dated the 15th February 2016 and details closures until the 7th August 2016.
February 17, 2016 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Goblin Extension, Gospel Oak And Barking Line | Leave a comment
The Last Class 378 Train Has Been Lengthened
The last Class 378 train to be lengthened to five cars has a special board on the front.
According to this article on RailStaff, the trains won’t be going to six cars. This is said.
Six car is not really an option on either the North London Line or particularly the East London Line because of the constraints of the tunnels.
If that is the case, then to get more capacity, they will need an increased frequency and probably more trains. The Wikipedia entry for the Class 710 trains that will be used on other Overground lines says this.
TfL invited expressions of interest for a total of 39 four-car EMUs in April 2014, with 30 required for the Cheshunt and Chingford routes, 8 for the Gospel Oak to Barking, and 1 for the Romford to Upminster. Since then the planned procurement has been increased to 45 four-car EMUs, with the additional 6 units intended for the Watford DC Line. The intention is that the five-car Class 378 trains used on the Watford route will be cascaded back to the North London and East London Lines to allow for strengthened services.
So it looks like the Watford DC Lines will be running different trains, although they will be the same as those on the Gospel Oak to Barking Line. So the GOBlin will be getting dual-voltage trains, so this means that in future an extension to invade South London via Acton and Hounslow is not compromised.
February 15, 2016 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Class 378 Train, Gospel Oak And Barking Line, London Overground, Trains | Leave a comment
Is The GOBlin Electrification Another Network Rail Dog’s Breakfast?
I’m asking this question, as I’ve been following the Gospel Oak to Barking Line electrification for some time and nothing seems to make sense.
In the last few hours, this article has appeared on the Rail Technology Magazine web site. The article has been given the title of TfL tries to reduce line-closure time for GOBLIN electrification.
I suppose a partial closure followed by a full closure is a reduction over a full closure, but it strikes me, as I know it does others, that behind the Press Release and the published story, there has been heated argument between Network Rail and Transport for London.
So What Do We Know?
In no particular order, we have.
- A fourteen-mile double-track railway in generally pretty good condition.
- The line can be considered to be in two parts; a western section in a cutting, with wide margins and an eastern section on a viaduct with lots of businesses underneath.
- There are two short sections of electrified railway and power is available at Gospel Oak and Barking stations, so getting the power to the line, is not the big problem it often can be in electrification schemes
- Most stations need platform-lengthening, but many have original and disused platforms, that appear to be sound if rather overgrown.
- By May 2016, South Tottenham station will be a fully step-free station in the middle of the line with lengthened platforms and a cross-over, so it could be used to split services on the line.
- The worst station on the line; Harringay Green Lanes, will be rebuilt in the near future, as the whole area is being redeveloped by Haringey Council.
- The Class 710 trains, that are being built for the line can’t be delivered until 2018, but there are at least eight Class 387 trains, that will be sitting in sidings, due to Network Rail’s atrocious performance on the Great Western Electrification.
- J. Murphy and Sons, whose yard is conveniently by the line, have been given the contract to do the track, station and enabling works.
We learn a bit about the problems of the electrification from various articles based on the original Press Release.
- From early June to late September 2016, the line will be part-closed, with trains running between Gospel Oak and South Tottenham on weekdays, but none from South Tottenham onto Barking, and no services at all on weekends.
- The 14-mile line will be completely closed from October 2016 to early February 2017, with rail replacement buses operating instead. Once the line reopens, there will be further evening and weekend works until late June 2017, then four months of commissioning works before the wires go live.
- Four sections of track have to be lowered and four bridges rebuilt, with less extensive work required to a further six bridges.
I think that we have not been told anything about the difficult negotiations that have gone on.
What Do I think Of The Plan?
Not much!
But then Network Rail and Transport for London will rightly accuse me of never planning any large infrastructure project.
They’re right!
But I have written software to support the building of some of the world’s lsrgest projects from oil platforms in the North Sea to the Channel Tunnel and the preparing of the Space Shuttle for each flight. So I can count several very good project managers amongst my friends.
I also keep coming across Artemis users on trains. That must have happened upwards of half-a-dozen times.
So what is wrong with the plan?
The main thing is that those who have designed the works are so conservative, that they haven’t taken full advantage of some of the new technology that is now available.
- The Gospel Oak to Barking Line only has no passenger trains running overnight, although freight trains operate. So why is the line not closed totally overnight and the freight trains diverted via the North London Line? Surely, this could be arranged so that much of the work could be done under rthe long summer nights or under lights.
- The Swiss firm of Furrer + Frey have developed innovative solutions for overhead electrification on difficult Swiss mountain railways and other tricky lines. I see no evidence, that some of the methods of this and other companies is being used to shotyern the project length.
- Network Rail also had a large input into Bombardier’s IPEMU development and this short line would be ideal for these trains their battery technology. These innovative trains, seem to have no part in the plans. If nothing else, they could save several million on the cost of the extension to Barking Riverside.
The Gospel Oak to Barking Line is an important railway across North London and I think that the closure could be shorter than that envisaged.
Perhaps Network Rail, Transport for London and Murphys will surprise us in the end!
A few weeks ago, I thought they might. But I’m not so sure now!
February 3, 2016 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Electrification, Furrer + Frey, Gospel Oak And Barking Line | Leave a comment
Bridges Around Crouch Hill Station
I took these pictures to show a few of the problems and easy bits of electrifying the Gospel Oak to Barking Line, around Crouch Hill station.
For comparison, this is Google Map of the station and the bridge and tunnel to the East.
Note the Victoria Road Bridge and the meting of several roads over the Crouch Hill Tunnel.
I think you can make the following observations.
- There is quite a large green margin to each side of the rail line. This surely should make design of the overhead wires and the various support services like power supplies and control gear easier.
- The Victoria Road Bridge appears to be in good condition and I suspect the arches are large enough to accommodate the overhead wires.
- Is the Crouch Hill Tunnel large enough?
- The bridge at Crouch Hill station appears to be a tight fit and I suspect, the track will need to be lowered to allow space for the overhead wires.
- The current platforms at the station are probably not long enough for four-car trains, but note that there are unused sections of the platforms that could be brought back into use.
- In the picture showing the Victoria Rosad Bridge, you can just see one of the piles at the end of the unused platform extension.
In common with much of the line, the infrastructure seems generally to be in good condition.
I think the updating and electrification of Crouch Hill station will be very typical of other stations on the line.
February 2, 2016 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Bridges, Electrification, Gospel Oak And Barking Line | Leave a comment
Lines Through Hampstead And Harringay
This map from carto.metro.free.fr shows the layout of railway lines through Hampstead.
I believe that it is a network that will be changed dramatically in the next few years.
In the west of the map, there is a triangular junction to the north of Cricklewood station, which connects the Dudding Hill Line to the Midland Main Line.
Also to the North of Cricklewood station is the old Cricklewood TMD (traction maintenance depot), which is now being developed as Brent Cross Cricklewood with houses, oficces, an extension to the Brent Cross Shopping Centre and a new station called Brent Cross Thameslink.
In the east of the map, Gospel Oak station is prominent and if you take a close look you can see how a double track spur connects the Gospel Oak to Barking Line (GOBlin) at Junction Road Junction to the Midland Main Line at Carlton Road Junction. This short length of line, which is used by freight trains, is also being electrified, so that freight trains can be electric-hauled from Barking and then up the Midland Main Line.
From Carlton Road Junction, freight trains can sneak up the western side of the Midland Main Line and either go North to freight depots like the proposed Radlett or take the Dudding Hill Line to connect with the West Coast Main Line or the Great Western Main Line. You can see the tracks that freight trains would use is this image taken looking south from the bridge at West Hampstead Thameslink station.
The tracks that freight trains will use are to the far right.
Transport for London’s Transport Plan for 2050 talks about improving the Overground, by using existing lines to create a circular railway based on the GOBlin. It could be routed via the Dudding Hill Line to Hounslow.
Looking at the above image, it would appear that it could be fairly easy for trains from the GOBlin to stop at West Hampstead Thameslink on their way to the Dudding Hill Line. This Google Map shows the station.
It would appear that there may even be space for an island platform, but I suspect a bi-directional platform sharing with the current Platform 4, will be much easier to create and more affordable.
The extended GOBlin would then call at Cricklewood station, from where it could either go straight down the Dudding Hill Line or perhaps via a reverse at the new Brent Cross Thameslink station.
This Google Map shows the area between Brent Cross and the Midland Main Line.
Note the large area of the current Cricklewood TMD to the North East of the triangular junction with Cricklewood station south of the area. The development will be partly on the northern part of the TMD.
The advantage of the indirect route, would be that the Shopping Centre and all the new development in the area, gets good connections from Hounslow and Acton in the West to Holloway, Tottenham and Walthamstow in the East.
If the trains run at the current four trains per hour of the GOBlin, then this line would be a valuable link across North London connecting to the Midland Main Line and Thameslink at either Brent Cross or West Hampstead stations.
It is an interesting proposition.
But it might get even better!
London’s two big problems are housing and transport, so look sat this Google Map of the area to the East of Gospel Oak station.
There is a large site around the triangular junction formed by the GOBlin in the North, the Midland Main Line in the South and the link between the two lines in the East.
It could be used for much-needed housing and other developments in the future. At the present time, it is owned by J. Murphy and Sons, who by chance are the contractors working on the electrification of the GOBlin.
Look at the map and I think that there is enough space to put a new station on the eastern side of junction.
So trains from Upper Holloway station to the Dudding Hill Line could go through.
- Junction Road if that station is built.
- Murphy’s Town
- West Hampstead Thameslink
- Cricklewood
- Brent Cross Thameslink
I think that some of the out-of-the-box-thinkers at Transport for London will come up with some extensive knitting in North London.
Look at this Google Map, which shows the GOBlin through Harringay.
The GOBlin is or could be very well connected.
- The connection to the East Coast Main Line is being electrified.
- Harringay Green Lanes station sits on top the Piccadilly Line.
- Seven Sisters station will be connected to South Tottenham station by Crossrail 2.
- It is linked to the Lea Valley Lines south of Tottenham Hale station.
Who knows what Transport for London will do with the GOBlin?
I wonder if in conversations in the pub near TfL’s offices, they wish that they still had the Palace Gates Line to play with. You can see it’s line on the map above as it goes away to the North West from Seven Sisters station.
I do find it strange however, that the route of Crossrail 2 from Seven Sisters to New Southgate, very much follows the route of the Palace Gates Line.
So can we assume, that the Victorians got that one right too?
January 31, 2016 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Brent Cross, Dudding Hill Line, Gospel Oak And Barking Line, Shopping, Trains | Leave a comment
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