The Anonymous Widower

Is Wi-Fi Becoming A Curse?

I usually only switch wi-fi on when I need it, on my Samsung phone. And when I don’t, I switch it off immediately.

Yesterday, I forgot to switch it off and this morning as the bus went through the Angel, the phone had switched itself to an O2 advert and it was trying to get me to install fourteen copies of updated apps.

I immediately, switched wi-fi off and didn’t install any updated apps, as in fact, I only use one app and that never seems to update itself.

How many people just update all the apps, they’re asked to do and inadvertently load a piece of malware, that empties their bank account?

Remember, it is in your phone service provider’s interest that you keep updating, as this generally increases your bill.

I also have no financial details on my mobile phone. Anybody who does, deserves to lose all their money!




November 23, 2016 - Posted by | Computing, World | , ,


  1. But if you update over Wi-Fi there are no network charges!

    Comment by Mark Clayton | November 23, 2016 | Reply

    • When it sneaks into my phone and shows an advert it bis!

      I hate adverts with a vengeance.

      I never update software, unless I have a good reason. And I don’t use apps, so why would I want to waste time updating 14?

      Comment by AnonW | November 23, 2016 | Reply

  2. The advert is not charging you at all. It is simply the o2 wifi welcome page. Yes, it has an advert on it, but you were not the victim of an advert “sneaking” onto your phone: it is a standard process for lots of wifi networks to show a “splash screen”, and being a big corporation o2 takes advantage of the ability to show a splash screen by advertising on it as well.

    I think you are quite misinformed about updating apps, as well as about wifi and phone security Recently a security hole was discovered where a major government was hacking into phones quite happily. If you didn’t update your apps with the security updates put in place to stop the hacks, your phone is massively insecure. App updates often deliberately don’t reveal the security content, so you’re sitting there with a massively insecure phone because of your desire to not have an insecure phone – and it seems you don’t realise that lots of apps run partially in the background even if you don’t use them! I think you really need to learn your phone. The reason you got the o2 wifi welcome screen was because you have told it to connect to networks in range. You can switch that off and leave your wifi on.

    I think people not updating software are a major cause of the spread of viruses and hacks. it’s like people not vaccinating their kids – they put the rest of us at risk. Those who have insecure phones have left them open to being hijacked and used to attack other phones. Failing to update apps in case the update is malware is a backwards way of looking at security. Your phone is more insecure than everyone else’s phone around you!

    But now I’ve just re-read your last sentence. You’re actually quite bitter, and I’m regretting spending this much time writing. You think people “deserve to lose their money” if they have financial details on their phones? Your ignorance of mobile security is amazing. Using bank details on an iPhone is more secure than ANY bank card, credit card or cheque book. It adds a layer of hardware security that is virtually unhackable. If someone steals your wallet they can go from shop to shop, spending just under the floor limit and wiping your bank account. You absolutely cannot do that with an iPhone, not ever – it REQUIRES your fingerprint, which is stored on a hardware chip that cannot be broken into.

    Your statement that people “deserve to lose their money” is just horrible. Really, truly horrible. I was hoping to use this comment to start you on the process of educating yourself about how much you place yourself and others at risk with your complete misunderstanding of phone security, but reading how you think people deserve to be the victims of fraud – well, that’s just nasty.

    Comment by No one deserves to be a victim of fraud | November 24, 2016 | Reply

  3. I used to work with security at a major consultancy, so nI know how gullible peiople are and how devious some programmers are.

    Comment by AnonW | November 24, 2016 | Reply

    • With the greatest respect, “No one deserves to be a victim of fraud” does have a point- perhaps you’ve swung too much the other way and your complete lockdown on updates on your phone ironically leads to a bigger security risk than if you just updated each of them, one by one carefully checking what the developers are changing each time, and checking reviews of the updated version to make sure the developers aren’t slipping in some devious malware.

      Comment by Jeremy | November 29, 2016 | Reply

      • My card was scammed in a simple way in a Snappy Snaps store, which has now been closed. I’m now being extremely careful and will never put an app that needs any financial details on a mobile device.

        I lost my phone at Gatwick a couple of years ago. I could have just left it on the side or it could have been picked up. For a time after this, I got loads of PPI calls and other nuisance on my replacement phone. To be fair ti the phone company, they thought it was being used suspiciously and cut it off.

        I have spoken to several programmers, and we all believe that your phone should be sterile, with no financial details of any kind.

        Comment by AnonW | November 30, 2016

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