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Could British Land’s Plans For Finsbury Square Car Park Include A Rail Link To The Northern City Line?

This map from cartometro.com shows the railway lines in the area of Liverpool Street, Moorgate and Old Street stations.

Note.

  1. The four tracks in black are the Northern and Northern City Lines.
  2. It is planned to install digital signalling on the Northern City Line to increase capacity.

Finsbury Square is to the East of these lines.

The Northern Line is about fifteen metres deeper and underneath the Northern and City Line.

This picture shows the escalator between the two lines at Moorgate station.

 

I wouldn’t be surprised to find that the Northern City Lines are deep enough to be below the Finsbury Square Car Park.

So would it be possible to run a four-car electric multiple unit into the Finsbury Square Car Park, so that there is no need to shuttle parcels and light freight to Liverpool Street station.

The digital signalling on the Northern City Line will probably allow a few extra trains to travel to a siding in or under the Finsbury Square Car Park, so it wouldn’t effect services into Moorgate.

 

 

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Between Liverpool Street And Wimbledon Park Stations

This morning, after I’d finished walking to Liverpool Street station, I took the new route to Wimbledon Park station.

  • Liverpool Street to Whitechapel on the Hammersmith & City Line.
  • Whitechapel to Wimbledon Park on a District Line train.

The change at Whitechapel was just a walk across the wide platform.

I have rarely gone between Whitechapel and Wimbledon on the District Line and this was one of the first times since the 4LM (Four Lines Modernisation) project  has been well under way.

The difference showed in the station dwell times, with only four stops taking more than thirty seconds from brakes on to brakes off.

  • Victoria, Sloane Square and South Kensington still took under a minute.
  • But Earl’s Court took a lengthy six minutes.

This map from cartometro.com shows the stations.

Note.

  1. The stations are all close together.
  2. There are some complicated junctions.
  3. The District Line splits into two to the West of Earl’s Court station.

This section will be challenging to any signalling system.

It works out that the average dwell time between Whitechapel and Wimbledon is around fifty seconds.

 

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Walking From Finsbury Square To Liverpool Street Station

In Finsbury Square Car Park Becomes British Land Hub For Delivery Drivers, I wondered if

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So today, I walked the route from Finsbury Square To Liverpool Street Station.

Note.

  1. The roads around Finsbury Square are probably the narrowest on the route between Finsbury Square and Liverpool Street station.
  2. Sun Street, Appold Street and Primrose Street are wide roads and didn’t strike me as too busy for eleven in the morning.
  3. The Old Cab Road is a high capacity route into Liverpool Street station between Platforms 10 and 11.

If Finsbury Square Car Park is be used to distribute parcels and light freight that is to be handled in Liverpool Street station, the roads between the car park and the station are more than adequate for an electric shuttle truck designed for the task.

But

  • I suspect that Finsbury Square Car Park would need remodelled access ramps.
  • There might be a need for a second entrance or exit on the East side of the site.
  • The gardens on top probably need a makeover.

I wouldn’t be surprised if British Land dug another floor or two beneath the car park.

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Wimbledon Park Station – 27th August 2021

Wimbledon Park station has now gone step-free so I went to have a look.

Note how the lift has been squeezed in neatly alongside the staircase.

I suspect this lift layout can be copied at a lot of stations.

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Finsbury Square Car Park Becomes British Land Hub For Delivery Drivers

The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on The Times.

It is a surprising headline or is it a logical development given some of the projects in the rail freight business.

In A Freight Shuttle For Liverpool Street Station Planned. I talked about Rail Operations Group and their plans to run a freight shuttle between London Gateway and Liverpool Street station.

  • Trains will be Class 769 bi-mode trains.
  • The trains will be fitted with roller doors, roller cages and strengthened floors.
  • Three services will leave Thames Gateway at 0029, 1208 and 1856.
  • They will return from Liverpool Street at 0242, 1421 and 2100.
  • Services will use Platforms 9 and 10 in Liverpool Street station.
  • Goods would be delivered to the customer by e-bikes or electric vans.

This a very detailed plan.

But would it be better, if it had a logistics hub close to or even in the station?

These pictures show the Old Cab Road at Liverpool Street station.

This would probably be the only area in the station, that can be used. But it is not very large. Although it does have an access road at the back of the station.

This Google Map shows the area between Finsbury Square and Liverpool Street station.

Note.

  1. Finsbury Square is in the North West corner of the map.
  2. Liverpool Street station is in the South East corner of the map.
  3. There is an entrance to the Old Cab Road Liverpool Street station on Primrose Street.
  4. Amazon UK’s corporate office is in the North East corner of the msp.

Could roller cages be rolled into electric vans and taken to Finsbury Square for sorting and onward distribution?

  • The car park has a height limit of 1.98 metres.
  • It has 258 parking spaces.
  • Could it be expanded downwards?
  • How many e-bikes would it hold?

It think that this could be the reason for the purchase.

But I would be very surprised if a siding was dug that connected to the nearby Northern City Line that runs into Moorgate station.

 

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