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Rumours Of Curves In Walthamstow

Last night, Lea Bridge station opened without ceremony, as I wrote in The People Of London Welcome Lea Bridge Station.

I got talking to someone, who knows a lot more about what will be happening to the railways in East London, than I do and when I asked about the Hall Farm Curve, they indicated it could be reinstated soon.

This map from carto.metro.Free.fr shows the lines North from Lea Bridge station.

Lines North Of Lea Bridge Station

Lines North Of Lea Bridge Station

The Hall Farm Curve  connects Lea Bridge and St. James Street stations.

My informant said the curve would probably be only single-track and signalled to allow trains to go both ways.

With my scheduling hat on, I do wonder if the curve would effectively connect spare capacity on the Northern end of the Chingford Branch to some spare capacity between Lea Bridge and Stratford stations. I think it is probably true to say, that North of Coppermill Junction, the West Anglia Main Line needs more capacity, so this sneaky way to Chingford doesn’t impact.

The limiting factor on the number of trains per hour between Chingford and Stratford would probably be platform capacity at the two ends of the route.

My informant also indicated that the Coppermill Curve could be rebuilt to allow trains to go between the West Anglia Main Line and the Chingford Branch Line.

This Google Map shows the area around Chingford station.

Chingford Station

Chingford Station

Note the extensive sidings by the station.

My informant said the main purpose of reinstating a double-track Coppermill Curve, would be to move empty trains to and from Chingford, rather than new passenger services.

But with the design stage of Crossrail 2 well underway, I do wonder, if connecting Chingford station and the related sidings to the West Anglia Main Line, might give Crossrail 2 better options to build the line or provide alternative services, whilst the West Anglia Main Line is rebuilt through the area.

It strikes me that the cost of doing both curves together would be less than only building the Hall Farm Curve and then finding that construction of Crossrail 2 needs the Coppermill Curve.

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May 15, 2016 - Posted by | Travel | , , ,

12 Comments »

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  2. Interesting. One barrier to this could be that if they start running trains from Chingford to Stratford, that they will have to use the level crossing a lot more up near Walthamstow – this would cause a lot of congestion. http://www.railfuture.org.uk/DL476 suggests that “1. Highams Park level crossing
    • 8 extra trains passing over the crossing every hour
    • Longer queues and more traffic congestion
    • Model indicates that level crossing will be open to traffic for 28
    minutes in each hour (significantly less than at present)”

    Comment by Gavin Hudson (@gavhudson) | September 6, 2016 | Reply

    • I feel that extra trains will be going through the area a lot in the next few years, so that Network Rail and the Council will have to come up with a proper solution for traffic to cross the railway.

      Network Rail have a problem with dangerous level crossings everywhere and although this is not a dangerous crossing, I suspect that some of the knowledge gleaned elsewhere will be useful.

      Comment by AnonW | September 6, 2016 | Reply

  3. I went and had a look at the area today and think that there is a solution, that would be possible for having a four trains per hour service between Walthamstow Central and Wood Street to Stratford, that would not add any extra traffic at Highams Park.

    I think there could be space to put a reversing siding between the tracks at Wood Street, just to the North of the station.

    The sequence of operation would be as follows.

    1. The Stratford to Wood Street train arrives and passengers for Chingford wait on the platform.

    2. The empty train is positioned in the reversing siding.

    3. The Liverpool Street to Chingford train arrives and picks up passengers for North before going on to Chingford.

    4. The Chingford to Liverpool Street train arrives and drops passengers who want to go to Stratford, before going on its way.

    5. The Stratford tram emerges from the siding, stops in Wood Street to pick up any passengers, and then follows the Liverpool Street train, through the two other Walthamstow stations, before taking the Hall Farm Curve to Stratford.

    This is very similar to what happens at West Croydon

    https://anonw.com/2016/06/02/the-reversing-siding-at-west-croydon/

    Walthaqmstow gets its own little Metro with eight trains an hour between Wood Street and James Street.

    Chingford and Highams Park have the same service as now, but passengers can change at any of the three Walthamstow stations for a following Stratford train.

    Comment by AnonW | September 6, 2016 | Reply

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