The Anonymous Widower

Before Overground – A Lack Of Colour

To say some of the stations on the Lea Valley Lines are drab and colourless is an understatement.

Colourless it may be, but a station like Stoke Newington has some very interesting brick arches. Instead of just being filled with litter, perhaps some innovative ideas to brighten them up could be applied.

There are gardens in some stations, but they are generally drab and only enlivened by the odd patch of Japanese knotweed.

Perhaps a Highams Park solution can be applied, where local volunteers have created the gardens.

September 30, 2014 Posted by | Transport/Travel | , , , | Leave a comment

Before Overground – Integration Into Transport for London

One thing that Transport for London (TfL) manages better than any other transport authority I’ve used anywhere in the world, is the interface between the various modes of transport.

Turn up at most Underground or Overground stations or any bus stop and you’ll generally find two things; a bus spider map, showing where the buses in the area go and a good easy-to-read walking map for those who need, have or want to walk.

Today, I arrived at Rectory Road station for the first time and I couldn’t find the information I needed to get a bus to Hackney. Not really a problem, as I got back on the next train to Hackney Downs.

At present some of the stations have information levels more appropriate to a rural halt in the wilds of Norfolk.

So will we see better information on the Lea Valley Lines, when TfL is responsible for the stations?

 

September 29, 2014 Posted by | Transport/Travel | , , | Leave a comment

Before Overground – Long Platforms And Eight-Coach Trains

When the London Overground was created in 2007, the Class 378 trains were delivered as just three car trains. Partly this was because, a lot of the platforms couldn’t handle longer trains. These trains and platforms have grown to accommodate the increase in traffic. The Class 378 trains are now going to five cars and in some documents Transport for London is talking about six cars in the future.

The Lea Valley Lines are generally worked by a mixture of four and eight car Class 315 and Class 317 trains and unlike the original Overground, the platforms are long.

An 8-Car Class 315 At Bruce Grove

An 8-Car Class 315 At Bruce Grove

 

Wikipedia states this on the Overground’s future fleet.

TfL announced its Invitation To Tender for a total of 39 four-car EMUs in April 2014, with 30 required for the Cheshunt and Chingford routes, 8 for the Gospel Oak to Barking, and 1 for the Romford to Upminster.

So it looks like trains on the Lea Valley Lines will be 4-car, that at times will work in pairs as 8-car units, as they do now!

I don’t think London Overground will mind the two different lengths of trains, as on the Lea Valley Lines, there is no platform length issues and eight-car trains are easily created.

I suppose the only speculation left, is to see who wins the order for the new trains. I gave my fourpennyworth in this post. I still think that it would be better for London Overground to have a one class fleet. But who knows? I certainly don’t!

September 29, 2014 Posted by | Transport/Travel | , , | Leave a comment

Before Overground – Stairs Not Fit For Purpose

I’ve now visited a good proportion of the stations on the Lea Valley Lines, that will be handed over to London Overground in May next year.

One factor that is constant across many of the stations is the atrocious stairs. Look at this staircase at Bethnal Green.

 

Stairs At Bethnal Green

Stairs At Bethnal Green

It is truly dreadful. Sadly it is not a lone example, but one of many I’ve seen.

  1. The stairs are steep and rather long.
  2. There is no second rail.
  3. There is no middle rail making it a double and much-safer staircase.
  4. The surface is probably slippery when wet.

As it costs upwards of a million to put in a pair of lifts, many stations that need improving will not get much work done.

The best that can be hoped for, is an innovative and systematic approach that reduces the cost of step-free access.

September 29, 2014 Posted by | Transport/Travel | , , | 1 Comment

Before Overground – White Hart Lane

A Station Totally Inadequate For The Area’s Need – Rating 2/10

It’s debatable whether White Hart Lane station is worse than its neighbour Bruce Grove.

Those stairs are a disaster waiting to happen on a match day, especially, when Spurs have built their new stadium.

But if you look at the Tottenham High Road West development plans, all options envisage the station being moved towards the south and connecting it to the new stadium with a wide pedestrian route. Arsenal and Chelsea eat your hearts out!

So I suspect that improvements to the station are on hold, until the stadium is built and all the other plans are sorted.

Incidentally, if the station was to be moved south by a couple of hundred metres,  it would appear that the new station might be able to use the same platforms, but accessing them at the other end. So it wouldn’t have the added problem of demolishing houses and businesses to create the station.

One subsidiary advantage of a station here, that can serve Spurs new stadium, is that it would probably be built with full step-free access. So will this take the pressure off the need to make Bruce Grove and Silver Street stations step free, if the bus routes on Tottenham High Road were improved.

I’ve always believed that the poor quality of public transport in this area of Tottenham is a factor in the crime, vandalism and general unrest. Long term residents of Hackney, including a Police Inspector, have told me they believe that the coming of the Overground and the improved buses has quietened things down in that borough and enabled more young people to get to jobs elsewhere.

September 29, 2014 Posted by | Transport/Travel | , , , | 1 Comment

Before Overground – Rectory Road

Not As Bad As Some! – Rating 3/10

Rectory Road station is a quite modern station having been built as recently as 1980.

It’s later date probably accounts for the less formidable steps, which may by the reason, why this station has a quite high usage figure of 800,000 passengers a year, which is only a bit less than Stoke Newington.

So perhaps improving access does increase a station’s footfall!

September 29, 2014 Posted by | Transport/Travel | , , | 1 Comment

Before Overground – Bruce Grove

The Area Deserves Something A Lot Better! – Rating 1/10

Bruce Grove station is very much a minimalist station.

It’s debatable if it is as bad as Bethnal Green, as it does have the advantages it’s on a busy High Road opposite a large McDonalds and not too far from the Grade 1-Listed Bruce Castle.

But it is very lacking in facilities and has the obligatory access up and down steep stairs, with no alternative. The stairs are also open to the elements, so must be very safe in high winds and heavy rain.

 

September 29, 2014 Posted by | Transport/Travel | , , , | 3 Comments

Before Overground – Stamford Hill

Add Imagination Here And You Might Get A Station! – Rating 2/10

Stamford Hill station has potential, as estate agents love to say.

Although not as bad as Bethnal Green, that misery station gets twice as many as this one.

The shelter on the Up platform needs reopening, perhaps new window frames could replace the bricks, but the biggest short-term improvement could be made by doing a bit of gardening.

And also, as with many of the stations being taken over by the Overground, the step-free access is the major problem.

It will be interesting to see this particular station two or three years from now! I suspect because of its low number of passengers, not much will have been done except deep cleaning and application of some orange paint and logos.

September 29, 2014 Posted by | Transport/Travel | , , | 1 Comment

Before Overground – The Step-Free Access Problem

If you look at stations on the London Overground, where a million or so has been spent on installing lifts or ramps to give step-free access, it would seem that the station needs over a million passengers a year before it is updated.

Some of the stations without step-free access on the Lea Valley Lines, like Bethnal GreenCambridge Heath and Southbury, have nowhere near a million passengers a year.

But then we don’t have before and after usage figures for stations like Camden Road and Hampstead Heath, where lifts have recently been installed. If say lifts and new and longer trains, do raise traffic substantially, it might make the installation of lifts more likely.

One of the problems with these lines is that in many stations the train lines are way above the street, so some of the simple ramps used at stations like Hackney Wick are not possible.

In some places, London Overground might not make the station step-free. Edmonton Green station will soon be step-free and as White Hart Lane is going to be rebuilt in all of the work to create a new ground for Tottenham Hotspur, would it be possible to improve the buses, which are already step-free to serve Silver Street and the North Middlesex Hospital.

It certainly is a complicated problem, with many people not wanting to be down the queue.

September 27, 2014 Posted by | Transport/Travel | , , , | Leave a comment

Before Overground – Bethnal Green

London Overground Have A Difficult Problem Here! – Rating 1/10

Bethnal Green station is probably why a doctor I know, left the area.

It was reasonably clean, but some of the things that passengers would like weren’t even there. In common with a lot of stations, there was no step-free access, but on the up platform, there wasn’t even any seats or a shelter.

Do London Overground really want to take control of this ruin?

Probably not, but on the other hand it does get a surprising number of over 700,000 passengers a year. And if the ones I saw today, struggling with kids and buggies on the stairs are typical, the station is a total disgrace!

To make matters worse, unlike Cambridge Heath, useful bus stops are not near the station.

September 27, 2014 Posted by | Transport/Travel | , , | 5 Comments