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Could Platforms 1 And 2 At Manchester Piccadilly Station Become A Tram-Train Terminal?

Tram-trains often pass through a city in the following manner.

  • They arrive in the city as trains and take to the tram system.
  • They use the tram system to go through the city centre,
  • At the other side of the city, they take to the rail lines and go to the final destination.

I took this picture in the main square in Kassel in Germany.

A continuous stream of trams and tram-trains pass through going across the city.

Isn’t it just like Piccadilly Gardens in Manchester? except that at present, they’re all trams on the Manchester Metrolink!

In Manchester Metrolink Extensions In A Sentence, I gave this quote from the Manchester Evening News.

It includes tram extensions to Port Salford, Middleton and Stalybridge, plus ‘tram trains’ to Hale, Warrington, Gorton and Glossop.

Currently, services to Hale, Gorton, Glossop and other places like Guide Bridge, Marple and New Mills Central come into low-numbered platforms in Manchester Piccadilly station.

The original plans for High Speed Two were rather unimaginative and probably very expensive, envisaged four High Speed platforms on the Northern side of the station.

In Changes Signalled For HS2 Route In North, I analyse the latest thinking on High Speed Two and I believe there is a chance, that Manchester Piccadilly will have underground through platforms deep underneath the current station.

These pictures show platforms 1 and 2 at Piccadilly station.

Currently, several of the lines that terminate in these two platforms are run by life-expired Pacers and they will be replaced by Class 195 trains.

But, as the quoted sentence shows, some of the routes into these platforms could be turned over to tram-train operation.

In Manchester Metrolink To Gorton And Glossop, I showed how it might be possible to connect the tram stop under Piccadilly station to the Glossop Line.

On the other hand the tram-trains might be able to run into these two platforms.

Conclusion

If Manchester acquires a few tram-trains, their rail and tram networks would appear to have lots of opportunities to use them efficiently.

It does also look, that it would be very advantageous, if the High Speed platforms could be through platforms underneath the main station.

  • Two well-designed through platforms would be able to handle a lot of trains and passengers.
  • The station could be refurbished, rather than demolished and rebuilt.
  • Fewer new platforms would be needed.

But above all updating the station would have a lower cost and would cause less disruption to all users.

 

 

 

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The Future Of TransPennine Express

TransPennine Express operates services across the Pennines.

In Changes Signalled For HS2 Route In North, I explored the possibilities of merging the infrastructure of High Seed Two and Northern Powerhouse Rail, as proposed by this report on the Transport for the North web site, which is entitled At A Glance – Northern Powerhouse Rail.

In my post, I proposed this service pattern across the Pennines, after sketching it on one of the 5 x 3 inch cards, that I use for notes.

  • High Speed Two – Two tph between London and Hull via Manchester Airport, Manchester Piccadilly and Leeds
  • High Speed Two – One tph between London and Edinburgh via Manchester Airport, Manchester Piccadilly, Leeds, York and Newcastle.
  • Northern Powerhouse Rail – One tph between Liverpool and Edinburgh via Manchester Airport, Manchester Piccadilly, Leeds, York and Newcastle.
  • Northern Powerhouse Rail – Two tph between Liverpool and Sheffield via Manchester Airport and Manchester Piccadilly
  • Northern Powerhouse Rail – Two tph between Liverpool and Hull via Manchester Airport, Manchester Piccadilly and Leeds
  • Northern Powerhouse Rail – One tph between Liverpool and Sunderland via Manchester Airport, Manchester Piccadilly, Leeds, York and Middlesbrough.

But how do proposed services across the Pennines like these, fit with the current TransPennine Express services?

Manchester Airport And Middlesbrough

The Liverpool and Sunderland service covers the same route. at the same frequency of one tph.

Manchester Airport And Newcastle

The London and Edinburgh and Liverpool and Edinburgh services cover the same route, at a doubled frequency of two tph.

Liverpool And Newcastle

The Liverpool and Edinburgh service covers the same route, at the same frequency of one tph.

Liverpool And Scarborough

I didn’t put this in thew original proposed schedule, so it would need to be added at one tph.

Manchester Piccadilly And Hull

The London and Hull and Liverpool and Hull services cover the same route, at an increased frequency of four tph.

Manchester Piccadilly And Huddersfield And Huddersfield And Leeds

These two services, either side of Huddersfield, are effectively local services and could either stay with TransPennine Express or be moved to Northern.

Manchester Airport And Cleethorpes

The Liverpool and Sheffield service covers the same route, at a doubled frequency of two tph, as far as Sheffield.

One tph could be extended to |Cleethorpes.

Manchester Airport And Glasgow Central

If there is a connection between the Northbound West Coast Main Line and Westbound Northern Powerhouse Rail then this service will be possible at the current frequency of one tph.

There would need to be a West-facing terminating platform at Manchester Airport.

Alternatively, this could remain a Classic service.

Manchester Airport and Edinburgh

The London and Edinburgh and Liverpool and Edinburgh services cover the same route, at a doubled frequency of two tph.

Liverpool And Glasgow Central

If there is a connection between the Northbound West Coast Main Line and Eastbound Northern Powerhouse Rail then this service will be possible at the soon-to-be-introduced frequency of one tph.

It could use Liverpool’s High Speed station.

Alternatively, this could remain a Classic service.

New Services

I could also throw in a few other services.

Liverpool And Nottingham

Could a service between Liverpool’s new High Speed station and Nottingham be introduced with a frequency of one tph?

The route would be via Manchester Airport, Manchester Piccadilly and Sheffield on Northern Powerhouse Rail before reversing at Sheffield and travelling to Nottingham via Chesterfield and Alfreton.

Scarborough And Llandudno

Why not?

If the demand is there various services might be viable.

Extra Stations

I think we will also see more station calls, by both High Speed and TransPennine Express trains.

Conclusion

TransPennine Express will be a very different franchise in the future.

 

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Huddersfield And High Speed Two

There are only nine Grade I Listed Railway Stations In The UK and Huddersfield station is one of them.

As you can see, it also has several long platforms and two pubs.

In addition, the station is step-free and has connecting local services to Leeds, Manchester and Sheffield.

This Google Map shows the basic layout of the station and its position on St. George’s Square.

Manchester is to the South and Leeds is to the North.

Huddersfield station has no direct services to London, but there are three routes to and from London with a single change.

These are best times.

  • Euston changing at Manchester Piccadilly – two hours and fifty-five minutes
  • Kings Cross changing at Leeds – two hours and forty-eight minutes
  • St. Pancras changing at Sheffield – two hours and forty-eight minutes

There’s not really much in it!

I bought an Off Peak Return from London Terminals to Huddersfield, travelling North via Euston and Manchester Piccadilly and returning South via Sheffield and St. Pancras.

How Long Will A Journey To And From London By High Speed Two Take?

In Changes Signalled For HS2 Route In North, I looked at proposals to effectively merge High Speed Two and Northern Powerhouse Rail into a comprehensive High Speed Rail system for the North of England.

My thoughts in the related post, were based on this report on the Transport for the North web site, which is entitled At A Glance – Northern Powerhouse Rail.

This map from the Transport of the North report, shows Western section of the rail system.

There are three routes going East from Manchester.

  • The yellow route is a possible new route to Leeds via Bradford, which I feel will probably be largely in tunnel.
  • The black toute is the upgraded existing Huddersfield Line between Manchester and Leeds via Huddersfield, which is shown.
  • The purple route is the upgraded Hope Valley Line to Sheffield.

I feel that the upgraded black route will be created first, with the faster yellow route, which I suspect will be mainly in tunnel, being added later.

In Changes Signalled For HS2 Route In North, I said that I believed that both London and Liverpool and London and Manchester services could be below seventy minutes.

In that report I also quoted a figure from a Transport for the North report, that said that Manchester and Leeds services would take twenty-five minutes.

I think the following timings, should be possible by High Speed Two trains.

  • London and Manchester – 70 minutes
  • Manchester and Huddersfield – 20 minutes

What would a ninety minute time between London and Huddersfield do for the town?

Conclusion

High Speed Two should call at Huddersfield station.

 

 

 

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