The Anonymous Widower

Proposed High-Speed Two Services Are Not Complete

This diagram shows High Speed Two services.


  1. Trains to the left of the vertical black line are Phase 1 and those to the right are Phase 2.
  2. Full-Size trains are shown in blue.
  3. Classic-Compatible trains are shown in yellow.
  4. The dotted circles are where trains split and join.
  5. In the red boxes routes alternate every hour.

Click on the diagram to enlarge it.

Are The Services Incomplete Or Has Someone Left Something Out?

Look at trains 4, 5 and 6.

  • Train 4 is a pair of Classic-Compatible trains, which split at Crewe, with one going to Liverpool Lime Street and the other to Lancaster.
  • Train 5 is a single Classic-Compatible train, that goes to Liverpool Lime Street.
  • Train 6 is a single Classic-Compatible train, that goes to Macclesfield.

As an example, Train 5 could be a pair of Classic-Compatible trains, which split at Crewe, with one going to Liverpool Lime Street and the other to Chester, Llandudno, Bangor and Holyhead. I actually believe that this would be a way of creating a low-carbon route to Dublin, with a zero-carbon high-speed ferry from Holyhead.

What to do with Train 6 is more difficult.

  • Stafford and Stoke need to be served by High Speed Two.
  • Stafford, Stoke and Macclesfield are not stations with long platforms, so may not be suitable places to split a pair of Classic-Compatible trains.
  • Places North of Macclesfield to terminate trains are not numerous and probably only Manchester and Huddersfield may be suitable.

The alternative might be to split a pair of Classic-Compatible trains forming Train 6 at Birmingham Interchange, one going to Stafford, Stoke and Macclesfield and the other going to Blackburn, Blackpool, Crewe, Lancaster, Liverpool or Preston


February 18, 2023 - Posted by | Transport/Travel | , , , , , , , , , , , ,

1 Comment »

  1. When I originally saw that graphic and having over a quarter of a century of train delivery in the UK I thought that the graphic you’ve reproduced was, to put it politely, presumptuous.
    As far as I know we may or may not end up with some trains expressly dedicated to HS2 and others capable of running on legacy tracks (Classic Compatible) but given that the first train is expected to roll off the production line around 2027 and the first passengers are expected to be carried between 2029 and 2033 (Source HS2), I reckon that you and a host of others will produce far more meaningful schedules in the next 6 years.

    Comment by fammorris | February 19, 2023 | Reply

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