Are There Any Plans For The Bay Sub-Surface Platforms At Moorgate Station?
I use Moorgate station regularly, as there’s a Leon Restaurant just outside the station, that looked after me properly during the Covid-19 Pandemic, so when I’m in the area and need feeding I pop in.
These pictures show the four bay platforms on the Sub-Surface lines.
Note.
- The pair of platforms to the left or South are numbered 5 and 6 and used to handle Thameslink trains, that ran to Moorgate station.
- Platforms 5 and 6 used to be electrified with 25 KVAC overhead wires.
- The pair of platforms to the right or North are numbered 3 and 4 and are used to terminate some Metropolitan Line services at Moorgate station.
- Platforms 3 and 4 are electrified with London Underground four-rail electrification.
- The number for Platform 4 can clearly be seen.
This map from cartometro shows the track layout in Farringdon, Barbican and Moorgate stations.
Note.
- The multi-coloured tracks and platforms of the Metropolitan, Circle and Hammersmith & City Lines running through Platforms 1 & 2 at Farringdon, Barbican and Moorgate stations.
- The multi-coloured tracks and platforms of the Metropolitan, Circle and Hammersmith & City Lines terminating in Platforms 3 & 4 at Moorgate station.
- The purple tracks and platforms of the Elizabeth Line running underneath the Metropolitan, Circle and Hammersmith & City Lines and their stations.
- The maroon and white tracks and platforms of Thameslink running through Platforms 3 & 4 in Barbican station and terminating in Platforms 5 & 6 at Moorgate station.
- The black tracks of Thameslink running through Farringdon and City Thameslink stations.
- It would appear there used to be two junctions to allow trains from Moorgate to go North through Farringdon station or South through City Thameslink station.
- The Thameslink tracks have two useful crossovers.
- The black tracks of the City branch of the Northern Line running through Old Street, Moorgate and Bank stations.
- The black tracks of the Northern City Line running through Old Street station and terminating in Moorgate station.
- The red tracks of the Central Line running through Chancery Lane, St. Paul’s and Bank station.
Because of the layout of the various tracks new connections and improvements may be possible.
Extending The Northern City Line To Bank Station
In Walking Along Moorgate – 30th September 2020, I describe some of the possibilities opened up by the design of Moor House, which has been built to allow more tunneling underneath.
I believe two extensions South from Moorgate station would be possible.
- It was intended by the builders of the Northern City Line, to take the route to just North of Bank station at Lothbury.
- Has The Possibility Been Created For A Pedestrian Tunnel Between Bank And Moorgate Stations?
Note.
- As the extension to Bank station has dug tunnels all over the place, I would expect that the engineers on that project would have a good idea on the best way to connect Moorgate and Bank stations.
- I usually use the Northern Line between Moorgate and Bank stations, but sometimes the Northern Line is rather crowded.
- The Northern City Line is being resignalled and may have an increased number of trains, so more passenger capacity may be needed.
- If a new station were to be built at Lothbury, it might be possible to improve step-free access to the Northern City Line.
- A new station on the Northern City Line and a pedestrian tunnel could connect to the newly-installed travelator at Bank station.
There are certainly serious possibilities to improve connections between Moorgate and Bank stations.
Could Metropolitan Line Trains Be Turned At Moorgate Station?
Currently, there are eight trains per hour (tph) between Aldgate and Uxbridge in the Off Peak.
With the new signalling on the Sub-Surface Lines would it allow more trains to operate, if some Metropolitan Line services were terminated in Platforms 3 & 4 at Moorgate station.
Would It Be Worthwhile To Run Thameslink Trains Again Into Moorgate Station?
It would only need to terminate trains from the North, as trains from the South can terminate at Black friars Station.
Perhaps a two tph service from a convenient station would suffice.
A Pedestrian Connection Between City Thameslink Station And St. Paul’s Tube Station
I covered this in A Pedestrian Connection Between City Thameslink Station And St. Paul’s Tube Station.
March 29, 2025 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Bank And Moorgate Moving Walkway, Bank Station, Barbican Station, Circle Line, City Thameslink - St. Paul's Pedestrian Link, City Thameslink Station, Elizabeth Line, Farringdon Station, Hammersmith & City Line, Leon Restaurants, London Underground, Metropolitan Line, Moorgate Station, Northern City Line, Northern City Line Extension To Bank Station, Thameslink, Uxbridge Station | 7 Comments
Ducking And Diving Between Moorgate And Liberty
Liberty is one of my favourite shops. That probably dates from the times in the 1970s, when C and I didn’t have large amounts of money and three kids, so if she needed a new summer dress, I’d make it and we’d usually choose the fabric at Liberty.
I was doing some Christmas shopping today, so after breakfast at Leon on Moorgate, I jumped into the Lizzie Line to the Hanover Square entrance at Bond Street station, where it was a short walk to Liberty.
These pictures document the route.
Note.
- I took one stop on the Metropolitan Line from Moorgate to Barbican.
- I positioned myself, at the front of the train.
- This enabled me to take the lift at Barbican station to the Lizzie Line passenger interchange level at Farringdon station.
- I then got the escalator down to the platforms.
- I was able to get into the back of the Westbound train, which I needed to avoid a long walk at Bond Street station.
The Lizzie Line will bring out the best ducking and diving in us all.
But with my manoeuvres, I avoided a two hundred metre walk from one end of the train to another!
This Google Map shows my walking route from Bond Street station to Liberty.
Note.
- Hanover Square is the green space to the left of the map.
- The Hanover Square entrance to Bond Street station is in the North-West corner of the square.
- Liberty is at the far right of the map.
Advantages of this route include.
- The Western end is in one of London’s best squares.
- All major road crossings have zebras or light controlled crossings.
- There are a few smaller useful shops like itsu, a Pret and a Ryman on Hanover Street.
- The route wasn’t too busy with pedestrians.
I would recommend using the Hanover Square entrance to Bond Street station for places like Bond Street, Carnaby Street, John Lewis, Regent Street and The Palladium.
After I’d done my shopping at Liberty, I walked along Great Marlborough Street to the back entrance of Marks and Spencer’s flagship store, thus avoiding the crowds on Oxford Street.
What If I Want To Go To John Lewis On Oxford Street?
As for Liberty, you would take the Lizzie Line to Bond Street station and use the Hanover Square or Eastern exit, then follow these pictures.
Note the Leon, which will probably opening soon.
What If I Want To Go To Bond Street?
You take the Medici Courtyard by the side of the station.
Note.
- There is an upmarket hotel in the courtyard.
- The courtyard has some artwork.
- The floral entrance on Bond Street.
It will be interesting to see how the Medici Courtyard develops.
December 16, 2022 Posted by AnonW | Food, Transport/Travel | Barbican Station, Bond Street Station, Ducking And Diving, Elizabeth Line, Farringdon Station, Hanover Square, Leon Restaurants, Liberty London, Marks and Spencer, Medici Courtyard, Metropolitan Line, Moorgate Station, Shopping | Leave a comment
Where Should You Travel On An Elizabeth Line Train?
The Lizzie Line has one very annoying problem.
When you catch a train, how do you know which is the best place to board the train, so that you get off at the right place to continue your journey?
I regularly go between the Moorgate entrance at Liverpool Street station to the Barbican entrance at Farringdon station.
- Liverpool Street station is a double-ended station with an Eastern entrance at Liverpool Street station and a Western entrance at Moorgate station.
- At Moorgate the Western end of the train is closest to the Moorgate Lizzie Line entrance and it is about a hundred metres walk on the level and two escalators between platform and street level.
- Farringdon station is a double-ended station with an Eastern entrance near to the Barbican and a Western entrance at Farringdon station.
- At Farringdon the Eastern end of the train is closest to the Barbican Lizzie Line entrance and it is about a hundred metres walk on the level and two escalators between platform and street level.
Ideally between the Moorgate entrance at Liverpool Street station to the Barbican entrance at Farringdon station, you would want to travel in the Eastern end of the train, as this would mean you had a quick getaway.
So you have to do one of these three things.
- Walk two hundred metres to the Eastern end of the platforms at Liverpool Street station and board the train at its Eastern end.
- Board the train at its Western end and walk back two hundred metres or so to the Eastern end of the platforms on arrival at Farringdon station to exit the station at the Barbican entrance.
- Board the train at its Western end and walk back two hundred metres or so inside the train to the Eastern end before alighting at the Barbican end of Farringdon station to exit the station. Be warned, that Heathrow trains can be blocked by cases, as I said in So Many Cases On A Train!.
I take a different route.
- I use the lift at the Moorgate Lizzie Line entrance to drop to the Westbound Circle/Hammersmith & City/Metropolitan Line platform.
- I get the first Underground train that arrives.
- Whilst it is running to Barbican station, I walk as far forward as I can get.
- I alight at Barbican station and walk to the Western end of the platform.
- From there, I take the lift and an escalator to street level.
It is a route which is step-free with less walking and two lifts and an escalator.
I suspect many regular Lizzie Line passengers will have their own regular short cuts.
Station Alighting Positions
These are in my view, the best place to be in a train, when travelling to these stations.
- Abbey Wood – Eastern end
- Acton Main Line – Eastern half
- Bond Street – Hanover Square – Eastern end
- Bond Street – Davies Street – Western end
- Bond Street – Central Line – Western end
- Bond Street – Jubilee Line – Western end
- Brentwood – Western end
- Burnham – Middle
- Canary Wharf – Escalators both ends and lifts in the middle
- Chadwell Heath – Eastern end
- Custom House – Middle and lift at Western end
- Ealing Broadway – Western end
- Ealing Broadway – Central Line – Western end
- Ealing Broadway – District Line – Western end
- Farringdon – Barbican – Eastern end
- Farringdon – Circle Line – Western end
- Farringdon – Farringdon – Western end
- Farringdon – Hammersmith & City Line – Western end
- Farringdon – Thameslink – Western end
- Forest Gate – Eastern end
- Gidea Park – Western half
- Goodmayes – Western end
- Hanwell – Eastern half
- Harold Wood – Western end
- Hayes and Harlington – Western end
- Heathrow Central – Eastern end
- Heathrow Terminal 4 – Western end
- Heathrow Terminal 5 – Eastern end
- Ilford – Eastern end
- Iver – Eastern half
- Langley – Middle
- Liverpool Street – Central Line – Eastern end
- Liverpool Street – Circle Line – Either end
- Liverpool Street – Hammersmith & City Line – Either end
- Liverpool Street – Liverpool Street – Eastern end
- Liverpool Street – Liverpool Street – National Rail – Eastern end
- Liverpool Street – Metropolitan Line – Either end
- Liverpool Street – Moorgate – Western end
- Liverpool Street – Moorgate – National Rail – Western end
- Liverpool Street – Northern Line – Western end
- Maidenhead – Middle
- Manor Park – Eastern end
- Maryland – Middle
- Paddington – Escalators both ends and lifts in the middle
- Reading – Middle
- Romford – Eastern end
- Seven Kings – Eastern end
- Shenfield – Eastern end
- Slough – Eastern half
- Southall – Middle
- Stratford – Middle
- Taplow – Western half
- Tottenham Court Road – Central Line – Eastern end
- Tottenham Court Road – Dean Street – Western end
- Tottenham Court Road – Northern Line – Eastern end
- Tottenham Court Road – Tottenham Court Road – Eastern end
- Twyford – Western half
- West Drayton – Western end
- West Ealing – Eastern end
- Whitechapel – District Line – Western end
- Whitechapel – Hammersmith & City Line – Western end
- Whitechapel – Overground – Western end
- Whitechapel – Western end
- Woolwich – Western end
- Woolwich – Docklands Light Railway – Western end
- Woolwich – National Rail – Western end
Note.
- Where another line is indicated, the position is for the interchange.
- By end, I mean the two end cars.
- By half, I mean the end four cars.
All of the routes have lifts.
November 30, 2022 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Barbican Station, Circle Line, Elizabeth Line, Farringdon Station, Hammersmith & City Line, Liverpool Street Station, Metropolitan Line, Moorgate Station | 1 Comment
The Barbican Entrance To The Elizabeth Line – 10th June 2022
This series of pictures shows the route between the Westbound platform at Barbican station to the Elizabeth Line at Farringdon station.
Note.
- There is only a single lift between the Western end of the Westbound Platform 2/3 at Barbican station and the lobby between the two banks of escalators and inclined lifts, that give access to the Barbican end of Elizabeth Line platforms.
- Currently, there is no access between the Elizabeth Line and the Eastbound Platform 1 at Barbican station.
- If you lived in one of the towers of the Barbican estate, if might be a marginally shorter walk to walk along Platform 2/3 and up the stairs to the street.
When C and myself, lived in Cromwell Tower in the Barbican, in the 1970s, we must have walked that route with our three children hundreds of times. It really isn’t very different.
I have a few thoughts.
Is The Route Really For Passengers?
Consider.
- A journey, where you might need to use the route could be one like Barking and Heathrow.
- But you have a wide choice, as you could alight at Whitechapel, Liverpool Street, Moorgate, Farringdon and Ealing Broadway on the sub-surface lines and have step-free access to the Elizabeth Line.
- I suspect most customers will choose Whitechapel or Liverpool Street.
This picture shows the comprehensive control panel in the lift.
Could it be, that the main purpose of the lift is for staff access to hard to reach plant rooms?
Or perhaps it is designed to get a stretcher or wheelchair to the island platform at Barbican station?
Is The Connection Incomplete?
It could be that there is more work to do and the connection is incomplete.
There is a section, which is entitled Elizabeth Line, in the Wikipedia entry for Barbican station, where this is said.
Farringdon’s Barbican ticket hall for the Elizabeth line is just to the west of Barbican station along Long Lane. This construction involved significant changes at the western end of the station, including the demolition of the former signal box to construct a lift shaft from the Elizabeth line station to the westbound Underground platform only. The original plan of a new footbridge spanning the tracks to the eastbound platform was not proceeded with on the grounds of engineering difficulties. Work was anticipated to be completed in 2018, but was completed in May 2022.
It does look like, that the best that was possible was built.
June 10, 2022 Posted by AnonW | Design, Transport/Travel | Barbican Station, Elizabeth Line, Farringdon Station, Hammersmith & City Line, Inclined Lift, Step-Free | Leave a comment
Elizabeth Line – Farringdon Station – 24th May 2022
I took these pictures at the Barbican entrance to the Elizabeth Line at Farringdon station.
Note.
- The Barbican entrance is effectively at the Western end of Barbican tube station.
- There are two banks of escalators between street level and platform.
- Both banks of escalators incorporate an inclined lift.
There is also a lift connection between the landing between the two banks of escalators and the Westbound platform at Barbican station, which is shown in these pictures.
Note.
- It was a bit difficult to find.
- I am also not sure that there are stairs.
But it could be a quick shortcut for those with local knowledge.
I took these pictures at the Farringdon entrance to the Elizabeth Line at Farringdon station.
Farringdon station is a very extensive station.
May 24, 2022 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Barbican Station, Elizabeth Line, Farringdon Station, Inclined Lift, Step-Free | Leave a comment
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