3,000 Homes To Be Built Next To Dagenham Dock Railway Station
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on Ian Visits.
These are the first two paragraphs.
A sleepy railway station in East London is due to get a lot busier as a large housing development is to be built next to it.
The former Dagenham Stamping Plant car works site has been cleared, and has now been bought by Peabody housing association for development. The initial phase will see 1,550 affordable homes built, supported by an £80 million grant from the Mayor’s Affordable Housing Programme.
There is a lot of housing under construction the area and the c2c lines and the London Overground are being expanded to cope.
- The Gospel Oak and Barking Line is being extended to Barking Riverside station.
- Renwick Road station may be added to this route, where it joins the c2c lines.
- Dagenham Dock station is now fully step-free.
- A new station is to be built at Beam Park to provide a link to housing development.
But there is still only two trains per hour (tph) through Dagenham Dock and Beam Park, as opposed to the four tph, that will run to Barking Riverside.
The simple solution would be to improve the Fenchurch Street and Grays service.
- Currently it is two tph.
- The service calls at Limehouse, West Ham, Barking, Dagenham Dock, Rainham and Purfleet.
- Renwick Road and Beam Park will be added to this service, when and if, they are built.
It needs to have the same frequency as Gospel Oak to Barking which is four tph.
So how could this frequency increase be provided?
For a start, the bay platform at Grays could probably handle four tph with improvement and the route possibly with some signalling improvements could probably cope.
The bay platform at Grays station would probably need lengthening.
It’s just where do you terminate the trains at the Western end?
Fenchurch Street is probably at capacity, as it handles 8 tph in the Off Peak.
- 4 tph – Shoeburyness
- 2 tph – Southend Central
- 2 tph – Grays
But the station handles up to 20 tph in the Peak.
Could it be that with the installation of full digital ERTMS signalling on this route, that four tph between Fenchurch Street and Grays could run all day?
A Possible Crossrail Branch
Crossrail is a herd of testosterone-loaded elephants in the room, that have been locked up by some very poor decision making from the Mayor and Transport for London.
- If ERTMS signalling is one of the keys to unlocking capacity on the tunnels for Crossrail and Thameslink, could its application to c2c services open up possibilities for serious new services in East London.
- As I said, ERTMS signaling could open up the capacity into Fenchurch Street, but would it also allow Grays to be a terminal for Crossrail?
This map from cartometro.com shows Forest Gate Junction, where the Gospel Oak to Barking Line connects to the lines into Stratford and Liverpool Street.
Note.
- The orange tracks are the Gospel Oak to Barking Line (GOBLin).
- Gospel Oak is to the North West and Barking is to the South East.
- The mauve-blue tracks are Crossrail, through Manor Park and Forest Gate stations.
- The black track are the fast lines into Liverpool Street station.
- Forest Gate Junction in the middle is regularly used by c2c trains accessing Liverpool Street, when there are engineering works.
I believe that with ERTMS signalling four or possibly six Crossrail tph could travel between Stratford and Barking stations via Maryland, Forest Gate and Woodgrange Park stations.
This second map from cartometro.com shows the lines through Barking station.
Note.
- Barking station is in the North-West corner of the map.
- The orange platform on the North side of Barking station is Platform 1, which is the current terminal of the GOBLin.
- After the Goblin is extended to Barking Riverside, the GOBLin services will share Platforms 7 and 8 with the Fenchurch Street to Grays services.
- Platforms 7 and 8 are on the South side of the station and they are connect to the GOBLin lines by a flyover.
- To the East of the station, the GOBLin route is shown in orange.
- The GOBLin turns South to Barking Riverside station, which is by the Thames.
I suspect that there is capacity for more trains.
- There will only be six tph through Platforms 7 and 8 at Barking station.
- There will be four tph over the flyover and through Woodgrange Park station.
I believe that terminating four Crossrail tph at Grays could be an interesting possibility.
March 18, 2021 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Barking Riverside Station, Beam Park Station, c2c, Crossrail, ERTMS, Gospel Oak And Barking Line, Grays Station, Housing, Renwick Road Station | Leave a comment
Could Tram-Trains Connect Barking, Barking Riverside, Thamesmead And Abbey Wood?
This is an old idea, I wrote about in An Open Letter To London Mayor Candidates About East London River Crossings.
This is what I said.
TfL has talked about a tunnel extending the GOBLin from Barking Riverside to Thamesmead and Abbey Wood.
After a visit to Karlsruhe specifically to see their tram-trains, I now believe that these could be the way to create a universe-class connection across the Thames. Tram-trains like those in Karlsruhe, which are soon to be trialled between Sheffield and Rotherham, could run on the GOBLin and then perhaps do a little loop at Barking Riverside before returning to Gospel Oak.
Note that we’re not talking untried technology here as you can see the tram-trains running on the streets and railway tracks of several German cities. Undoubtedly, if the Germans were extending the GOBlin, they would use tram-trains, as they could serve build several stops with the money needed to build Barking Riverside station. And all the stops, like those on the London Tramlink would be fully step-free.
The loop in Barking Riverside, could extend across the river.
I think that a tunnel under the Thames would be a case of hiding your biggest light under an enormous bushel.
So why not create a high bridge to allow the biggest ships underneath, with a tram track or two, a cycle path and a walking route?
It would have some of the best views in London. Forget the Garden Bridge! This would create a transport link, that those living on both sides of the river could use and enjoy every day to get to work or for leisure reasons. Tourists would come to view London, as they do on large entry bridges in cities like New York and Lisbon.
Effectively, you have a conventional tram connecting Barking, Barking Riverside, Thamesmead and Abbey Wood. At Barking and Abbey Wood, the tram-trains become trains and could go to Gospel Oak and perhaps Merindian Water, Romford, Upminster or Tilbury in the North and perhaps Woolwich, Lewisham, Dartford or Bluewater in the South.
Everything you would need to create such a link is tried and tested technology or designs that have been implemented in either the UK or Germany over the last few years.
Tram-trains have one big advantage over trains and that is that they can take much tighter curves.
This would enable intricate routes to serve large areas of Thamesmead.
A simple route between Barking and Abbey Wood stations could serve a lot of people and might even call at the iconic Crossness
November 11, 2020 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Abbey Wood Station, Barking Riverside Station, Barking Station | Leave a comment
Thoughts On Barking To Grays And Barking To Barking Riverside Train Services
c2c’s Fenchurch Street And Grays Service
This service runs at a frequency of two trains per hour (tph).
- Each journey takes about 34-36 minutes each way.
- If ten minutes is allowed at each end, that gives a ninety minute round trip.
- The service will need three trains.
A four tph service would need.
- Six trains.
- The ability to handle extra two tph at Fenchurch Street station and in the bay platform at Grays station.
Grays station can probably handle the extra trains, but Fenchurch Street station may need extra capacity.
London Overground’s Gospel Oak And Barking Riverside Service
This service runs at a frequency of four tph.
Changing At Barking Station
Both service will use.
- Platform 7 At Barking Station When Running Eastbound
- Platform 8 At Barking Station When Running Westbound
Both platforms will have to handle six tph.
Would It Be Better For Changing If Both Services Were Four tph?
This would mean.
- Passengers would never wait more than fifteen minutes to their desired destination.
- The combined frequency would be eight tph or a train every seven-and-a half minute.
- There would be a lot of scope for optimising the timetable for the convenience of passengers.
As an example, consider a passenger going from Barking Riverside to Fenchurch Street.
If trains were equally-spaced at Barking station, passengers would wait a maximum of seven-and-a-half minutes, if trains were on time.
On balance, if both services were four tph would be better.
Conclusion
If c2c and London Overground co-operate, customers will benefit.
April 9, 2019 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Barking Riverside Station, Barking Station, c2c, Gospel Oak And Barking Line, Grays Station, London Overground | Leave a comment
The Design Of Barking Riverside Station
The information is coming together about the new Barking Riverside station.
Wikipedia
The Wikipedia entry at the moment is not very information, but it does say that the station has two platforms.
Location
This map from Transport for London, shows the location of the station.
The location of Barking Riverside station is at the end of the branch line that comes South from the Barking to Tilbury Line.
As it is a long term ambition of Transport for London to extend the railway under the River to Abbey Wood station, the North-South orientation of the station is probably important.
carto.metro.free.fr
This map from carto.metro.free.fr gives the layout of Barking Riverside station and the tracks leading to it.
It shows two tracks leading to a two-platform station, with a crossover to allow both platforms to be used.
The Architect’s Visualisations
These are available on this page on the Moxon Architect’s web site.
This is the first visualisation on the site.
It shows the end view of the station and as no railway lines are visible, I assume that it is looking North, so the River Thames is behind the viewer and Renwick Road is on the left.
This is the second visualisation.
It shows the station looking from the East towards Renwick Road. Note the bus in both images.
As at Hackney Wick station, there is an underpass, so the station is not a barrier to pedestrians.
The seventh visualisation shows the station from above.
It only shows one platform in the image, as do other visualisations.
Is It A Single Platform Station?
Is this the way the station will be built or is it just to make the visualisation simpler?
A single platform station should be able to handle six trains per hour (tph).
- This year, this frequency will be implemented between single platforms at Highbury & Islington and Crystal Palace stations on the Overground.
- The Gospel Oak to Barking Line will have a maximum frequency of five tph in the Peak.
- The infrastructure and the trains will all be brand new and use the best technology.
So it looks like a single platform station should be able to handle the planned number of trains for the simple extension to Barking Riverside station.
Will There Be Electrification?
This is the fifth visualisation.
It clearly shows gantries for overhead wires.
But it appears that only one platform is there.
I have thought for some time, that the Barking Riverside Extension could be built without electrification and battery/electric trains could be used.
I laid out my views in Don’t Mention Electrification!.
- All Aventras are wired for on-board electrical storage.
- The Barking Riverside Extension is only 1.5 km long.
- The area of the extension has some very large electricity pylons, that the extension has to dodge through.
- If the line is extended under the Thames, it would be cheaper to build a tunnel for third rail, as it will connect to third-rail lines on the South Bank.
- There must be substantial savings by not putting up overhead wires.
- A safer and more reliable railway in extreme weather.
I also repeated my views in an article in Rail Magazine, which I described in I’ve Been Published In Rail Magazine.
No-one has told me that they disagree with my views.
So why are electrification gantries shown?
- Transport for London or Network Rail don’t believe that battery/electric trains are possible. This is unlikely, as battery/electric trains have been successfully demonstrated in the UK and elsewhere, and ordered for Wales and Liverpool.
- Obviously, there has to be a backstop if conventional electric trains have to be used. So, provision is being made to electrify the extension.
- The single platform is electrified, so that a battery/electric train can be fully-charged before it returns towards Barking and Gospel Oak.
If before the station is built, it is decided that electrification is not needed, the overhead wires can be omitted from the construction phase.
I do feel though, we will know more about the performance and reliability of battery/electric trains in a few years, and we will alter the designs of overhead electrification accordingly.
Extending Across The River
The station has been built to enable extension to Abbey Wood station on the other side of the Thames.
There are probably several designs that would fit with the current station.
The simplest is probably to install a second platform and connect both to a tunnel under the river or a bridge over the river.
This would have several disadvantages.
- A lot of the station would need to be demolished.
- The train service to Barking Riverside station might have to be stopped for several months, during construction.
- All services would have to cross the river.
A better option is probably to install the second platform on a track, that goes under the river in a tunnel.
- The single tunnel portal would require less land take, as it could be very close to Barking Riverside station.
- The tunnel under the river could be a mix of single or double track, to create the most affordable tunnel.
- The current single platform would become a bay platform.
- During construction, the service to Barking Riverside station would be able to continue as normal.
- The bay platform could be used for service recovery in times of disruption.
I particular like the idea of a loop railway on the South Bank of the Thames with perhaps four or five stations. Alternatively, it could be a tram-train on the surface.
Conclusion
It looks like the design of Barking Riverside station, is one that will cater for all eventualities.
I am looking forward to taking the first train to the station.
February 6, 2019 Posted by AnonW | Transport/Travel | Architecture, Barking Riverside, Barking Riverside Station, Design, Gospel Oak And Barking Line | Leave a comment
About This Blog
What this blog will eventually be about I do not know.
But it will be about how I’m coping with the loss of my wife and son to cancer in recent years and how I manage with being a coeliac and recovering from a stroke. It will be about travel, sport, engineering, food, art, computers, large projects and London, that are some of the passions that fill my life.
And hopefully, it will get rid of the lonely times, from which I still suffer.
Why Anonymous? That’s how you feel at times.
Charities
Useful Links
Top Posts
- Jamie Oliver's Fish Pie
- Electric Freight: A Solution To The WCML Capacity Conundrum
- Google AI Is Using This Blog
- US Government Sends Stop Work Order To All Offshore Wind Projects Under Construction
- Where Should You Travel On An Elizabeth Line Train?
- Life-Saving Baby Incubators Uused In Ukraine Pass The NHS Test
- Back To The Future With BYD Double-Deck Buses
- The Automatic Splitting And Joining Of Trains
- East-West Rail: Aylesbury Spur
- Beeching Reversal - A New Station At Waverley In Sheffield
WordPress Admin
-
Join 1,883 other subscribers
Archives
Categories
- Advertising Architecture Art Australia Banks Battery-Electric Trains BBC Buses Cambridge Coeliac/Gluten-Free Construction COVID-19 Crossrail Death Decarbonisation Design Development Docklands Light Railway Driving East Coast Main Line Electrification Elizabeth Line Energy Engineering Entertainment Floating Wind Power Flying Football France Freight Germany Global Warming/Zero-Carbon Good Design Gospel Oak And Barking Line Greater Anglia Great Western Railway Heathrow Airport High Speed Two Highview Power Hydrogen-Powered Trains Innovation Internet Ipswich Town King's Cross Station Law Liverpool London London Overground London Underground Manchester Marks and Spencer Network Rail New Stations Offshore Wind Power Olympics Phones Politics Project Management Religion Research Scotland Shopping Solar Power Stations Step-Free Stroke Television Thameslink The Netherlands Trains United States Walking Weather Wind Power Zopa
Tweets
Tweets by VagueShot








