Battery Power And Tram-Trains
Consider.
- The Class 399 tram-trains in Sheffield can work on both 25 KVAC and 750 VDC overhead electrification.
- Their German cousins in Karlsruhe can work on both 15 KVAC and 750 VDC overhead electrification.
In Karlsruhe, there is a ceramic rod between the two overhead cables with different voltages and the pantograph rides across. I suspect that clever power electronics on the tram-train measures the voltage and converts it automatically to that needed to power the tram-train.
I haven’t been able to see how Sheffield connects the two different voltages, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a similar system with a ceramic rod is used.
Look at this picture, I took of a Class 399 tram-train in Sheffield.

Note the BATTERY CHARGE socket to the left of the car number.
Why would an electrically-powered vehicle need a battery?
I suppose it could be to start up the tram-train in the morning and raise the pantograph.
But could it also be for emergency power, to move the tram-train short distances, such as in depots or to assist the vehicle through the dead sections, where the power supply changes from one voltage to another?
The Class 399 tram-trains ordered for the South Wales Metro will also have to cope with discontinuous electrification. So is the technology needed for this already installed in the tram-trains in Sheffield?
Battery Power And Dual Voltage Trains
Suppose you have a train like a Class 378 or Class 700 train, that can run on both 25 KVAC overhead and 750 VDC third-rail electrification.
Third-rail trains with contact shoes deal with discontinuous electrification all the time.
If a dual-voltage train had a battery that could take it say two hundred metres, then I believe that voltage changeover could be simplified and speeded up.
I have watched Class 717 trains change voltage at Drayton Park station and what changes would a limited battery capability make.
The third-rail electrification would stop several metres short of the station and would be removed in the station itself.
Going towards Moorgate, this would be the procedure.
- The train would stop in the station as it does now.
- The driver would drop the pantograph, whilst passengers unloaded and loaded.
- The driver would close the doors.
- The train would accelerate away on battery power.
- After a few metres the train would contact the third-rail and the train’s computer would change from battery to third-rail power.
Going away from Moorgate, this would be the procedure.
- The train would automatically disconnect from third-rail power, where that stopped to the South of the station.
- The train would automatically switch to battery power.
- The train would stop in the station as it does now.
- The driver would raise the pantograph, whilst passengers unloaded and loaded.
- The driver would close the doors.
- The train would accelerate away on overhead power.
The stops should be no longer, than a normal station stop without power changeover.
Conclusion
Batteries may well reduce the time taken to change voltage
February 19, 2019
Posted by AnonW |
Energy Storage, Transport/Travel | Class 399 Tram-Train, Class 700 Train, Class 717 Train, Drayton Park Station, Electrification |
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County Lines is to me just an efficient way to satisfy a need., like Uber or Deliveroo!
It is just another branch of the gig economy!
Who knows, what will be delivered in this way after the inevitable no-deal Brexit?
February 19, 2019
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The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on IanVisits.
This is the first paragraph.
Angel Road, London’s second quietest train station is set to close in May, the Department for Transport has announced. With just over 33,000 passengers in 2017/18, it’s beaten to the bottom spot only by South Greenford station’s 26,500 passengers.
It will be replaced on May 19th 2019, by the new Meridian Water station, which will be 580 metres to the South.
February 19, 2019
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Transport/Travel | Angel Road Station, Meridian Water Station, New Stations |
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Two dinosaurs; the Labour Party and the motor industry, got big shocks yesterday.
But both are trying to live in the past with CEOs, who still think that we’re in the 1960s.
This morning, my message read out on Wake Up To Money was this.
I don’t drive any more, but the future is electric and the UK is blessed with a position and a climate to become one of the first countries to power most vehicles with renewables. Vehicle manufacturers must change or die!
Our renewable electricity generation infrastructure is growing apace and in the last few days, the world’s largest offshore wind farm opened, as reported in this article on the BBC, which is entitled First Power From World’s Biggest Offshore Wind Farm.
The Hornsea Wind Farm will have a generating capacity of 6 GW. This is nearly twice as large a capacity as the troubled Hinckley Point C nuclear power station.
But whereas Hinckley Point C will produce continuous power, Hornsea will only produce power when the wind blows.
The National Grid are tasked with keeping the lights on and I agree with them, that energy storage is the solution.
- There are 25,000,000 homes in the UK. If every house in the UK was fitted with a 10 kWh storage battery, that would be a capacity of 250 GWH.
- There are 30,000,000 cars in the UK. If every car in the UK was electric and had a 30 kWh battery, that would be a capacity of 900 GWH.
These are very large numbers and just as the Internet passes data all around the UK and the world, the UK’s National Grid will access all these batteries to store energy, when perhaps the wind is blowing at night and retrieve it when there is a high demand.
On a domestic level, you may have an electric car and a battery in your house, with perhaps solar panels on the roof.
- At night and on sunny days, your batteries will be charged.
- At times of high demand, your stored energy may be sold back to the grid.
- Controlling it all would be an intelligent computer system, which would make sure that your car always had enough charge and you had enough energy for the house.
The problem is that nearly all of our houses and cars don’t fit this model.
The proposed closure of the Honda plant is Swindon, is the first of the many casualties in car manufacturing, that will surely happen.
More by luck, than judgement, when I moved to London after my stroke, I bought a house with the following features.
- Low energy consumption.
- A flat roof, that is now covered in solar panels.
- A garage, that would be suitable for an electric car. Although, I don’t drive, the next owner of this house, probably will.
Millions of houses in this country should be demolished and the land used for new houses that fit the modern age.
The Labour Party is living in the 1960s and Corbyn and McDonell still believe that the Robin Hood approach of stealing from the rich and giving it to the poor, is still the way to go.
But these days, most people want to be responsible for themselves. This is why there has been such a growth in people in the gig economy like Uber, Deliveroo and County Lines.
Everybody wants to take control of their lives and their own micro-economy. That is why I left a safe job at ICI in 1969, at the age of just twenty-two.
Like me, those who start their own successful business don’t want government to come along and use it on pet projects that always seem to fail.
Most politicians and especially Labour ones have never done a real job in their lives and Labour’s defections will hopefully be the first of many from all political parties.
I hope that February 18th 2019, will be remembered as the day when two dinosaurs realised they needed to change their spots.
But they won’t change willingly!
However!
- Companies and individuals will soon be buying electric vehicles in large numbers and only buying diesel and petrol ones, where there is no alternative.
- Voters will not vote for policies that stink of the past, that don’t fit their micro-economy.
There will also be a lot of unsaleable houses and second-hand cars!
February 19, 2019
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Transport/Travel | Cars, Electricity, Labour Party, Offshore Wind Power, Politics, Wind Power |
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There are certainly, short term capacity problems on the Gospel Oak to Barking Line, (GOBlin) due to the non-delivery of the new Class 710 trains.
Comparison With The North London Line
There are a lot of similarities between the Gospel Oak to Barking Line and the North London Line (NLL).
- Both run roughly East-West across North London.
- Both have interchanges with the Underground, Crossrail and National Rail.
- Both run electric trains.
- Both have several freight trains per day.
In addition, the Eastern end of the NLL and the GOBlin, run through areas of East London, where a lot of regeneration and housing development is ongoing.

This picture was taken at Blackhorse Road station. The station is being surrounded, by a large amount of housing.
Capacity On The North London Line
When I moved to Dalston in 2010, the frequency of trains between Stratford and Willesden Junction stations was around six trains per hour (tph). The trains were three-car Class 378 trains, giving a capacity of 18 carriages per hour (cph).
Now in early 2019, the frequency on the same section of the NLL is eight tph and the trains are five-cars, giving a capacity of 40 cph.
This large increase of 120 percent, has not been enough to prevent trains on the NLL from being very full at times. But then there have been large housing and commercial developments at Stratford, Hackney Wick, Hackney Central, Dalston Junction and West Hampstead stations.
Future Capacity On The Gospel Oak to Barking Line
Until a few months ago, the GOBlin had a frequency of four tph. The trains were two-car Class 172 trains, giving a capacity of 8 cph.
The service from today is two four-car Class 378 and two two-car Class 172 trains per hour, giving a capacity of 12 cph.
Hopefully, when the Class 710 trains are working, we’ll be seeing four four-car Class 710 trains per hour, giving a capacity of 16 cph.
It is not the 120 percent increase that the NLL has already seen, but surely a 100 percent increase is better than nothing.
My Observations On The Gospel Oak To Goblin Line
For the last three of four years, Highbury & Islington station has been a station to avoid.
- There have been continuous roadworks in the area of the station.
- There have also been several water-main bursts.
- The bus service between the station and my house has been halved in frequency.
Consequently, if I’m coming East to my home, I find it a lot easier, but slightly slower to change to the GOBlin at Gospel Oak station and then get a bus home from Harringay Green Lanes station.
So if a GOBlin train is waiting at Gospel Oak station, I take that route.
Helpfully, Transport for London have improved the cross-platform interchange.

They’ve also added more stairs to the right of these.
I actually, think, that passengers wanting to go to areas between the two lines are starting to use the GOBlin, as often by Harringay Green Lanes station, a lot of passengers have left the train.
Londoners are just practising their ducking and diving!
I’ve also left Barking a couple of times in a very full train in the Off Peak.
- Passengers for whatever reason, seem to be using the GOBlin more!
- Do clean electric trains attract passengers more than less friendly diesels?
- Does the occasional four-car journey impress passengers with more space?
- Is it since the Class 378 trains took over some duties, that the service is more reliable?
Or perversely could it be, that all the bad publicity about the GOBlin has reminded people that it is still there and might be worth a second chance?
Will The Proposed Gospel Oak To Barking Line Be Enough In The Long Term?
I am rapidly coming to the conclusion, that although capacity on the GOBlin is going to be doubled, when the new Class 710 trains arrive, this may not be a large enough increase for the long-term.
What Measures Can Be Taken To Increase Capacity?
There are some simple measures that can be taken.
Higher Frequencies
Transport for London are planning to run five tph in the Peak this year.
If it happens, this will increase capacity by a small amount, where it is needed.
But it probably can’t be a general increase, as that would probably restrict the number of freight trains.
Trains With A Higher Performance
The electric Class 710 trains probably have a higher performance than the diesel Class 172 trains.
This will help with running higher frequencies and faster services, but on its own, it won’t increase capacity.
Longer Trains
The Class 710 trains are Aventras, and these trains have been ordered up to ten cars by other operators.
So five- or six-car trains would certainly be possible.
But the problem is that some platforms would need to be lengthened.
- Barking already handles longer trains.
- Upper Holloway, Crouch Hill, Harrigay Green Lanes, Walthamstow Queens Road, Leyton Midland Road, Leytonstone High Road, Wanstead Park and Woodgrange Park used to have longer platforms, which might be possible to reinstate.
- Blackhorse Road, South Tottenham and Gospel Oak would be major undertakings.
Five-car trains might be possible, if selective door opening was used at the last three stations.
Five-car trains would increase the capacity to 50 cph or an increase of twenty-five percent on the capacity after the Class 710 trains are successfully introduced.
Conclusion
I am very sure, that the only way to increase the capacity of the Gospel Oak to Barking Line, would be to run longer trains.
But they would need to use selective door opening at Blackhorse Road, South Tottenham and Gospel Oak stations.
After the problems of platform lengthening on the East and North London Lines, why weren’t platforms at least prepared for five- or even six-car trains, when the GOBlin was rebuilt and electrified?
February 18, 2019
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Transport/Travel | Class 172 Train, Class 378 Train, Class 710 Train, Gospel Oak And Barking Line, North London Line |
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The title of this post is the same as that of this article on IanVisits.
Overground
TfL’s plan for the Overground would appear to be an extension under or over the River Thames to a single station at Thamesmead and a possible connection to the North Kent Line at Plumstead, Abbey Wood or Belvedere stations.
DLR
The plan for the DLR involves more stations, including a possible one on the North Bank of the Thames. It also serves a proposed massive Peabody housing development, which will provide up to 11,500 new homes.
What Goes East Must Go West
Nothing is said in Ian’s report about train services to Thamesmead.
Overground
On the Overground, there will be four trains per hour (tph) between Gospel Oak and Barking Riverside stations.
There are problems with increasing frequency and capacity, which could be necessary.
- The terminus at Gospel Oak station is only a single platform.
- The Gospel Oak to Barking Line is used by an increasing amount of electrically-haled freight trains.
- There is little space on the line for an additional bay platform to turn trains.
- Trains can’t continue along the North London Line at Gospel Oak, as that line is busy as well.
The only alternative Western terminals are.
- Barking – A bay platform could possibly be squeezed in.
- Enfield Town – Sounds crazy, but there is a chord between Seven Sisters and South Tottenham stations.
- Fenchurch Street – Busy and possibly could be made larger with redevelopment.
- Liverpool Street – Busy and only a slight possibility.
There would also need to be platform lengthening to incorporate trains that are longer than four cars.
Although, it might be possible to run five-car trains using selective door opening on the last car.
DLR
Currently, the DLR has a Peak service of 7.5 tph between Tower Gateway and Becton calling at Shadwell, Limehouse, Westferry, Poplar, Blackwall, East India, Canning Town, Royal Victoria, Custom House, Prince Regent, Royal Albert, Beckton Park, Cyprus, Gallions Reach.
The extension to Thamesmead would branch off around Gallions Reach and the current service has the following connections.
- Shadwell – London Overground
- Canning Town – Jubilee Line
- Royal Victoria – Emirates Air-Line
- Custom House – Crossrail
Will there be enough capacity on this section of the DLR?
- Tower Gateway is a single-platform station and would need to be upgraded to handle more than 7.5 tph.
- Thirty tph run through Shadwell, Limeshouse and Westferry station in the Peak.
- Can stations be lengthened to use longer trains?
It does look to me that the only way to increase capacity would be to extend the DLR to the West, as I outlined in The Bank Station Upgrade And The Western Extension Of The DLR.
This map from TfL shows the possible extension.

What would be the cost of this extension?
Conclusion
The logic and economics of extending either the Overground or the DLR to Thamesmead are sound for that area of South-East London, but does The Mayor have the budget to complete the other end of the transport links?
February 16, 2019
Posted by AnonW |
Transport/Travel | Barking Riverside, Crossrail, Docklands Light Railway, Docklands Light Railway Extension To Thamesmead, Docklands Light Railway Western Extension, London Overground, Sadiq Khan, Thamesmead |
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The title of this post is the same as that of this article on the Internation Railway Journal.
Ireland needs more capacity on its railways and the preferred solution appears to be some second-hand DMUs.
It is likely, they will come from Great Britain.
- We are replacing some DMUs with new fleets.
- The Irish have a similar restricted loading gauge.
- The trains will need to be converted from standard to Irish gauge.
The article mentions that Class 185 trains are likely candidates.
Yet again, the stupid decision of the British Government in the Railway Regulation (Gauge) Act 1846, is costing the Irish good money.
February 15, 2019
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Transport/Travel | Class 185 Train, Republic Of Ireland, Trains |
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These pictures show my crossing on the new Woolwich Ferry; Ben Woollacott.
It was a nice sunny day to go for a cruise.
In The Woolwich Ferry By Foot, I went across on the old ferry.
The new ferry doesn’t have the same quality of passenger cabin, but it can transport a few more vehicles.
February 14, 2019
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The title of this post is the same as that of this article on Windpower Engineering and Development.
To build a successful and ultimately profitable wind farm, you need the following.
- A good location and excellent engineering.
- A need for your electricity.
- Access to affordable finance.
The first is down to your surveyors, analysts and engineers and the second can probably be taken as read.
If as the article suggests, institutional investors are seeing renewables as a safe investment, it would appear that finance will be more readily available.
So provided the wind blows, I can see lots more wind farms and other renewable power sources being created.
International Institutional Investors
I will add one note of caution.
Some of our infrastructure in the UK, is owned by institutional investors from countries like Australia, Canada, Norway and other countries often rich in natural resources. I am not sure, but I seem to remember that some trains, were financed by money provided by Pension Funds of Canadian teachers.
So, we must be careful how we manage the country, as if the UK is seen to be a risky investment, then the institutional investors will use their money in other countries.
February 14, 2019
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Finance & Investment, World | Energy, Wind Power |
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The second Class 378 train; 378206 is now in service on the Gospel Oak to Barking Line.
I have had a thought about these trains and also the Class 710 trains, which will have a similar interior.
At two in the afternoon on the short trip between Gospel Oak and Harringay Green Lanes stations about three-quarters of the seats were occupied.
I would estimate that there were perhaps 160 passengers on board.
As the Class 172 trains have only 124 seats, I feel that the electric trains and all the publicity are attracting passengers.
February 14, 2019
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Transport/Travel | Class 172 Train, Class 378 Train, Class 710 Train, Gospel Oak And Barking Line |
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