Brighton Buses – 30th March 2022
I had a short ride up from the sea-front back to Brighton station on a bus, as the climb is a bit much for me on some days.
Note.
- The bus I travelled on had two doors like London’s, which makes entry and exit so much more efficient.
- Brighton seems to have contactless ticketing, where you touch-in and touch-out, as you do on the London Underground.
- The two buses in the pictures have the route on the side.
I was very surprised that there were no stops on the sea-front, where you can get a bus to the station, as not all visitors to the city, are in the first flush of youth.
There wasn’t even any instructions about how to find a bus.
Gatwick Airport Station – 30th March 2022
Gatwick Airport station is being upgraded and I took these pictures as I passed through twice today on my way to and from Brighton.
It will be a much bigger and better station when the upgrade is complete.
Beeching Reversal – Arundel Chord
This is one of the Beeching Reversal projects that the Government and Network Rail are proposing to reverse some of the Beeching cuts.
This Google Map shows where the chord will be built.
Note.
- The railway line going North is the Arun Valley Line that goes North to Arundel and Horsham stations.
- The line going East is the West Coastway Line that goes East to Angmering, Worthing, Shoreham and Brighton stations.
- The two lines join at Arundel Junction and trains go South and West to Bognor Regis, Littlehampton, Portsmouth and Southampton.
The new chord will join the Arun Valley Line to the North with the West Coastway Line going to the East.
This will give an alternative route between London and Brighton, when the Brighton Main Line is blocked.
- I would assume it will be a simple flat junction at both ends of the chord, as under normal circumstances it won’t get a lot of use.
- It would also needed to be able to accommodate the largest 12-car trains wanting to use the route.
- Also, in the last couple of years, Network Rail have done a lot of work to stop flooding and increase the resilience of the Brighton Main Line.
So is there another plan?
After all, it’s a lot of work to do for a route that only gets used occasionally.
So here’s a few ideas and reasons.
The Rebuilding Of Gatwick Airport And East Croydon Stations
Gatwick Airport and East Croydon stations are due to be rebuilt in the near future and if the Arundel Chord has been built, it offers an alternative route to London for trains from Brighton.
COVID-19
COVID-19 won’t have any direct effects on running the trains, but it could play havoc with the scheduling of any building work on the Brighton Main Line and at the stations, that passengers and trains use to get to London.
Again an alternative route might be useful.
A Service Between London and Hove Via The Arun Valley Line
This route may have advantages in that it might use a less crowded route to London.
A West Sussex Loop
I like loops.
- They can be used to cut the number of platforms needed.
- The driver doesn’t have to change ends.
- Trains can be turned quicker at the destination.
If you’re still sceptical, go to Liverpool and investigate the operation of the Wirral Line, which has five stations in an underground loop under Liverpool city centre. It also handles upwards of twelve trains per hour.
Once the Arundel Chord is built trains could do the following.
- Come South down the Brighton Main Line calling at stations like East Croydon, Gatwick Airport, Three Bridge and Haywards Heath. as required.
- After Preston Park station, the trains would take the West Coastway Line.
- Continue West, calling at stations like Hove, Shoreham, Worthing and Angmering as required.
- On reaching the Arundel Chord, the trains would turn North for Arundel and Horsham.
- Trains would continue back to Three Bridges, stopping as required.
Note.
- As it is a double-track loop, trains could use it both ways.
- Most of the route is in West Sussex, with a few miles in the City of Brighton and Hove.
- Trains don’t have to start in London, but could perhaps turn back at Redhill or Gatwick Airport. This might remove some trains through East Croydon.
Would this service encourage the locals to use the train to travel to Gatwick Airport?
Operating Issues
Network Rail, Southern or Thameslink may have operational reasons, like getting the trains back to depot, if they fail.
More Affordable Than Reopening Uckfield And Lewes
I think it could have similar capacity improvements and advantages to re-opening Uckfield and Lewes, but it is a lot more affordable.
Conclusion
This project seems to have dropped down the list in previous years.
Perhaps something that needs it has come up!
Manchester Piccadilly, Liverpool Lime Street And Some Other Stations Compared
I am doing this exercise to get a handle on the scale of the problem at Platforms 13 and 14 at Manchester Piccadilly station.
In 2018/19, these were some passenger statistics for the two stations and some others.
- Birmingham New Street station handled 47.928 million passengers on its thirteen platforms or 3.62 million per platform per year.
- Brighton station handled 17.385 million passengers on its eight platforms or 2.17 million per platform per year.
- Bristol Temple Meads station handled 11.368 million passengers on its thirteen platforms or 0.87 million per platform per year.
- Cardiff station handled 14.205 million passengers on its eight platforms or 1.78 million per platform per year.
- Chelmsford station handled 8.927 million passengers on two platforms of 4.46 million per platform per year.
- Crewe station handled 3.318 million passengers on its twelve platforms or 0.28 million per platform per year.
- Deansgate station handled 0.458 million passengers on its two platforms or 0.23 million per platform per year.
- Doncaster station handled 3,918 million passengers on its nine platforms or 0.44 million per platform per year.
- East Croydon station handled 24.770 million passengers on its six platforms or 4.12 million per platform per year.
- Exeter St. Davids station handled 2.620 million passengers on its six platforms or 0.44 million per platform per year.
- Gatwick Airport station handled 21.225 million passengers on its seven platforms or 3.03 million per platform per year.
- Leeds station handled 30.839 million passengers on its seventeen train platforms or 1.81 million per platform per year.
- Leicester station handled 5.582 million passengers on its four platforms or 1.40 million per platform per year.
- Liverpool Lime Street station handled 14.221 million passengers on its eleven platforms or 1.29 million per platform per year.
- London Bridge station handled 61.308 million passengers on its fifteen platforms or 4.08 million per platform per year.
- London Fenchurch Street station handled 18.508 million passengers on its four platforms or 4.63 million per platform per year.
- London Paddington station handled 38.18 million passengers on its thirteen platforms or 2,94 million per platform per year.
- Manchester Oxford Road station handled 9.338 million passengers on its five platforms or 1.87 million per platform per year.
- Manchester Piccadilly station handled 30.252 million passengers on its fourteen platforms and two tram platforms or 1.89 million per platform per year.
- Manchester Victoria station handled 8.950 million passengers on its eight platforms or 1.12 million per platform per year.
- Newcastle station handled 8,914 million passengers on its twelve platforms or 0.74 million per platform per year.
- Nottingham station handled 8.005 million passengers on its nine platforms or 0.89 million per platform per year.
- Peterborough station handled 5.060 million passengers on its seven platforms or 0.72 million per platform per year.
- Preston station handled 4.646 million passengers on its nine platforms or 0.52 million per platform per year.
- Reading station handled 17.081 million passengers on its fifteen platforms or 1.14 million per platform per year.
- York station handled 9.991 million passengers on its eleven platforms or 0.90 million per platform per year.
These figures have given rise to a few thoughts.
Brighton
Brighton station is an eight platform terminal station, that handles a lot of passengers, considering that the City doesn’t have any mass transit system and passengers rely on walking, bicycles, buses and private cars for onward travel.
- There are upwards of eight trains per hour (tph) at the station to and from London, all of which can be up to twelve cars.
- The West Coastway and East Coastway Lines have at least six tph in the Off Peak.
- Arriving passengers can walk straight through the wide gate line and out to walking routes and the buses, with leaving passengers walking the other way.
I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that Brighton station is at capacity.
Chelmsford
It is truly remarkable that Chelmsford station is the second busiest station in terms of passengers per platform per year on my list.
- The station has two separate platforms on either side of the tracks.
- Access is via wide stairs and lifts.
- The station appears to handle five tph in both directions in the Off Peak, with up to twice that number in the Peak.
- Most trains calling at the station are between eight and twelve cars.
- Chelmsford station could get even busier in terms of passengers when the new longer Class 720 trains and Class 745 trains are brought into service in the next twelve months, as these trains have higher capacities, than the current trains.
- It is aimed, that the new trains though will have level access between train and platform, at some point in the future.
I very much feel, that Chelmsford shows what can be done at an ordinary two platform station with the application of good simple design.
London Fenchurch Street
London Fenchurch Street is the busiest station on my list.
- The limited number of platforms will increase the number of passengers per platform per year.
- The station has two entrances to each platform.
- Arriving passengers can walk straight through the wide gate line at the main entrance and down escalators to walking routes at street level, with leaving passengers walking the other way.
- Many trains in the Peak are twelve cars.
- Adding extra platforms would be difficult.
It does appear, that work has been done to maximise the station’s capacity.
Crewe, Doncaster, Exeter St. Davids, Newcastle, Peterborough, Preston and York
All these stations are interchange stations on the main lines, that may have been improved, but have not been substantially rebuilt.
They all manage to handle between 0.5 million and 1 million passengers per platform per year.
Leeds
Leeds station has been improved over the last few years.
- There are six through platforms and eleven where trains can terminate.
- After passing through the gate line, passengers are in a concourse from where long distance services to London and the North and local services to Bradford, Harrogate, Ilkley and Skipton can be boarded.
- A new wide bridge with escalators, a lift and steps leads from this concourse across the through lines and platforms to the other side of the station.
- There are lifts and escalators from the bridge to some of the through platforms and the terminating platforms beyond them.
- At the far side of the bridge, a new Southern entrance has been added.
<The bridge works well and shows how a wide bridge over or a wide concourse under the tracks, can improve circulation in a station.
If you compare the bridge at Leeds, with the bridge at Reading, which was designed at around the same time, the Reading one is better in that it is wider and has more escalators, with one up and one down escalator to each pair of platforms.
Was a certain amount of design at Leeds station performed by accountants?
London Bridge
London Bridge station shows what can be done by applying good design in a new or rebuilt station.
- There are nine through and six terminal platforms.
- All platforms can take full-length twelve-car trains.
- There is a massive concourse underneath all fifteen platforms.
- There are lots of escalators and lifts between the concourse and the platforms.
- Steps provide additional and reserve capacity.
- Passengers changing between routes can take an escalator or lift to the concourse and another one to their new route.
- Arriving passengers can walk straight through the wide gate lines and out to walking routes, the Underground and the buses, with leaving passengers walking the other way.
- London Bridge station was designed by Grimshaw Architects
It is a design with a wow factor that works very well.
Reading
Reading station is another good design applied to a rebuilt station.
- There are nine through platforms, three East-facing bay platforms and three West-facing bay platforms.
- All through platforms can take full-length trains.
- All bay platforms are a level walk from the Southernmost through platform and the main entrance gate line to the station.
- There is a massive bridge over all nine through platforms.
- There are lots of escalators and lifts between the bridge and the through platforms.
- Steps provide additional and reserve capacity.
- Passengers changing between routes can take an escalator or lift to the bridge and another one to their new route.
- Arriving passengers can walk straight through the wide gate lines and out to walking routes, the car-parks and the buses, with leaving passengers walking the other way.
- Reading station was designed by Grimshaw architects.
It is a design with a wow factor that works very well.
Redesigning Manchester Piccadilly
Could some of the principles of these stations be applied to rebuilding Manchester Piccadilly station?
There are currently twelve terminal platforms numbered 1-12 in the main part of the station.
- Platforms 1 to 4 are used for services to Marple, New Mills, Rose Hill and Sheffield via the Hope Valley Line, and services on the Glossop Line.
- Platforms 5 to 9 are the longest and used by Avanti West Coast and CrossCountry services.
- Platforms 10 to 12 are shorter than the others and are usually used to accommodate local trains to Crewe and Manchester Airport, plus Mid-Cheshire line, Buxton Line and South Wales services.
The two through platforms 13 and 14 are on the Southern side of the station.
These ideas might be possible.
A Wide Bridge Or Concourse Connecting The Platforms At The London End
Currently, there is a bridge over the platforms 1 to 12 at the London end, but compared to the bridges at Leeds or Reading stations, it is a rather feeble affair.
- It is narrow.
- It doesn’t have any kiosks or shops.
- It is only connected to the platforms by steps.
Could this be replaced by a wide bridge, like say the one at Reading?
It would certainly give advantages if it could!
- Passengers arriving in Manchester Piccadilly needing to change to another service, might find it more convenient to use the bridge, rather than exit on to the main concourse.
- The bridge could be designed as a waiting area, with kiosks, shops, cafes and other facilities.
- The bridge would be connected to all platforms by escalators and lifts.
- Steps would provide additional and reserve capacity.
Note that if you buy a ticket to Manchester stations, that allows you to go to either Manchester Piccadilly, Manchester Oxford Road, Deansgate or Manchester Victoria stations, So a quick route up and down an escalator at the London end of Piccadilly station to Platform 14 would be very convenient.
Access To Platforms 13 And 14
Compared to the wide island platforms at Leeds and Reading, platform 13 and 14 are a bit narrow, but I’m fairly sure, that a good layout for escalators and lifts could be designed, so that access to these two platforms can be improved.
Trains Through Platforms 13 and 14
These must be arranged, so that they are all similar with wide double doors and step-free access between platform and train.
Improvement Along The Castlefield Corridor
Various improvements need to be done on the Castlefield Corridor.
- Deansgate can be improved to provide better access to the Metrolink at Castlefield.
- Manchester Oxford Road station needs a complete rebuilt and a better track layout.
- The Liverpool Lime Street and Manchester Airport service via Warrington and Manchester Oxford Road needs a strong rethink.
It appears that it has already been decided to reduce the number of trains, as I wrote about in Castlefield Corridor Trade-Off Plan For Fewer Trains.
Wide Gate Lines
Passengers arriving at Manchester Piccadilly station in the main part of the station should be able to walk forward to a gate line stretching right across all the platforms.
- The present gate line isn’t continuous.
- There is still a lot of manual checking of tickets.
The current layout can certainly be improved.
Access To Metrolink
I also wonder if better access to the Metrolink could be provided, so that passengers access the Metrolink station from inside the gate line. Now that the Metrolink allows contactless ticketing, this might be easier.
Conclusion
I believe there’s a solution in there somewhere!
Observations On Thameslink Between Brighton And Cambridge
Yesterday, Thameslink opened the first of their services up the East Coast Main Line.
I gave more details in Thameslink Is Now Serving Peterborough And Cambridge.
Today, I did the following trips.
- Dalston Junction to Brighton, by Overground, tram and Thameslink.
- Brighton to Cambridge, leaving at 11:32 and arriving at 14:14, which was a journey time of two hours, forty-two minutes.
- Cambridge to Finsbury Park, leaving at 14:24 and arriving at 15:10, which was a journey time of forty-six minutes.
These are pictures, I took along the Brighton to Cambridge part of the route.
These are some of my observations.
Are The Class 700 Trains Fast Enough?
There didn’t seem to be any problems today, but usually, when an electric train runs with the 125 mph trains on a High Speed Line like the East Coast, West Coast and Great Western Main Lines, they are a little bit faster than the hundred mph of the Class 700 trains.
Both, Class 350 trains and Class 387 trains are 110 mph trains and they have run successfully on High Speed Lines with 125 mph trains.
Interestingly, TransPennine Express has bought Class 397 trains, to work the West Coast Main Line. These are 125 mph trains, but they will have to work with uprated trains at 140mph, when in-cab signalling is installed.
In-Cab Signalling On The Main Lines
When modern in-cab signalling is installed on the Brighton, Midland and East Coast Main Lines will the current in-cab signalling of the Class 700 trains be able to be quickly updated?
I suspect it will not be a difficult project.
The Updating Of The Midland Main Line
In OLE Changes To Boost Midland Main Line Speeds, I said this.
The title of this post is the same as that of an article in Issue 840 of Rail Magazine.
Currently, the overhead line equipment (OLE) between St. Pancras and Bedford is rated at 100 mph.
But the new OLE between Bedford and Corby via Kettering is going to be built to a standard that will allow 125 mph running.
The article goes on to say that to make the best use of 125 mph bi-mode trains, the possibility of upgrading the St. Pancras to Bedford electrification to the 125 mph standard.
This must give advantages.
Are the Class 700 trains able to to take full advantage?
And are they fast enough to work with 125 mph bi-mode trains?
Are The Class 700 Trains Powerful Enough?
I ask this question, as surely changing from a slow line to a fast line, needs some acceleration and acceleration needs power.
The power available divided by the number of cars for the three trains is as follows.
- Class 387 train – 420 kW/car
- Class 350 train – 375 kW/car
- Class 700 train – 417 kW/car
These figures are not that different.
By comparison, the Class 319 trains, which worked Thameslink for many years had just 247.5 kW/car.
The Class 700 Trains Aren’t Passenger Friendly For Long Distances
I regularly use Class 700 trains for short journeys on Thameslink around London. But going between say West Hampstead Thameslink and Blackfriars, is more of the sort of journey you would take on an Underground train.
- They are perfectly adequate for short journeys in Central London.
- The trains are generally lightly loaded, with seats often available.
- There are plenty of hand-holds for safe standing.
- The on train information is good.
- I’ve even used the trains for their toilets.
On the other hand, taking an hour’s journey around London, there are several journeys, where you get a train with much better seats and a higher level of comfort.
- Aldgate to Uxbridge on the Metropolitan Line, riding on a S8 Stock train.
- Highbury and Islington to West Croydon on the London Overground, riding on a Class 378 train.
- Liverpool Street to Shenfield, riding on a Class 345 train.
- Liverpool Street to Bishops Stortford on a Class 317 train.
- Paddington to Reading, riding on a Class 387 train.
- Waterloo to Windsor, riding in a Class 455 train.
Note the presence of two seriously-old trains; Classes 317 and 455, and a train designed for the Underground.
Some of these journeys will get better, as new trains are introduced.
If you look at your new car, passenger features are much better than what you had twenty years ago.
The same can be said for some of London’s commuter trains, but can it be said for the Class 700 trains, when compared with the previous Class 319 trains.
- Standing is a better experience on a Class 700 train.
- Sitting is a better experience on a Class 319 train.
- Entry and exit is better on a Class 700 train.
- The toilets are better on a Class 700 train.
- There is no wi-fi or power sockets on either train.
- The Class 700 train is a better train to serve an Airport.
- The Class 700 train uses the colours of a nuclear submarine, to calm passengers down!
After my trip of two hours forty-two minutes yesterday, between Brighton and Cambridge, I’m convinced the Class 700 train is unsuitable for this length of journey.
- The seats are not comfortable enough for this distance.
- By Cambridge, my phone was in desperate need of a re-charge.
- At least I don’t generally use wi-fi.
The train was not very crowded, so with a more comfortable seat and a power-socket I’d have been a lot happier.
Passenger Loading Of The Train
For most of the journey, the train was virtually empty and I had four seats to myself.
Incidentally, I suspect that a lot of groups travelling all the way, will put their feet on the seats opposite for comfort.
The only time, the train had more than a few passengers was between Gatwick Airport and London Bridge stations, when it was almost completely full.
Various factors probably contribute.
- Between London and Brighton, you can take one of Southern’s comfortable Class 377 trains.
- Between London and Bedford, you can still take one of East Midland’s comfortable trains.
- Between London and Cambridge, you can take one of Great Northern’s comfortable Class 387 trains.
- Between London and Cambridge, you can take one of Greater Anglia’s comfortable Class 379 trains.
Competition may work in the Off Peak, but surely commuters have no choice.
But it was interesting, that the only crowded part of the route was the section, where there is no competition.
Take the standard grandparents living in Cambridge wanting to go to see their grandchildren in Brighton.
Will they take a two hours forty-two minutes journey in an uncomfortable train, when you can break the journey in a pleasant cafe in Central London?
Regular travellers on long Thameslink routes will work out their best strategies.
I’d love to analyse Thameslink’s passenger statistics.
But then Thameslink didn’t specify the trains.
Summing Up Brighton To Cambridge
These thoughts can probably be applied to Bedford to Brighton as well.
On the plus side, there is the following.
- The journey time.
- Entry and exit to the train.
- Standing space, which makes it an excellent extra Underground Line in Central London.
- Toilets
On the negative side, there is the following.
- The seats.
- The lack of passenger-friendly features like tables, power sockets and wi-fi.
But, I suspect that for Thameslink, these trains will not be welcoming to Off Peak travellers, where the competition is other operators and the car.
Is Thameslink An Extended Underground Line?
Crossrail has been designed as an extended Underground Line from Reading and Heathrow in the West to Abbey Wood and Shenfield in the East.
- Between Whitechapel and Paddington, the line functions as a high-capacity Underground Line.
- Crossrail will appear on the Tube Map.
- Crossrail stations will have excellent connections to the Undeground.
- By linking services from Paddington and Liverpool Street together back-to-back, platform space is released at two major stations, which can be used to increase capacity on other routes.
- Crossrail’s stations are seen as locations to create commercial and residential developments.
- All stations on the route are being improved and made step-free.
- Crossrail’s trains appear to have been designed to function as both Underground trains and commuter trains, borrowing heavily from the successful S8 Stock of the Metropolitan Line.
So how does Thameslink compare?
- Thameslink seems to have been designed as a series of main routes across London, that go through a Central Tunnel.
- Between London Bridge and Finsbury Park/West Hapstead Thameslink, Londonders will use the line as a high-capacity Underground Line.
- Thameslink will not appear on the Tube Map.
- Thameslink stations have mixed connections to the Underground, that were designed by that useless designer called Topsy.
- Platform space has been released at St. Pancras and London Bridge and the latest remodelling has improved matters.
- Are Thameslink’s stations seen as development hubs?
- Are Thameslink’s stations being given the right level of improvement and step-free access?
- Thameslink’s trains were not designed for the job they are doing.
Thameslink is most certainly not an extended Underground Line!
A Comparison With The Great Eastern Main Line
The Great Eastern Main Line is a line I know well.
- It has a long-distance service from Liverpool Street to Norwich via Colchester and Ipswich.
- It has an extensive commuter network from Liverpool Street.
- Crossrail will increase capacity at Liverpool Street.
When Greater Anglia decided to replace the fleet, they could have gone for a unified fleet.
But they decided on a split fleet.
- Stadler Class 745 trains for long-distance and Stansted Airport services.
- Stadler Class 755 bi-mode trains for rural services in Suffolk and Norfolk.
- Bombardier Class 720 trains in five- and ten-car formations for London commuter services..
Note.
- It was a pragmatic decision, that provided the right train for each service.
- Particular attention has been paid to the interior design.
- The interior design has been shown to passengers, before any trains have been built.
- All trains will have toilets.
- First Class will be eliminated on the Class 720 trains.
- The Class 720 trains could share tracks and platforms with Crossrail’s Class 345 trains.
It looks like Greater Anglia took a lot of care.
Did the Department for Transport take a similar amount of care to get the design for the Thameslink trains?
Obviously not!
What Needs To Be Done
These are my ideas.
Split The Train Fleet
Greater Anglia’s decision to split their fleet is a telling one.
- Express services between London and Norwich and Stansted Airport services will be run by twelve-car Class 745 trains with First Class seats.
- London commuter services will be run by five- and ten-car high-capacity Class 720 trains with no First Class.
- Both trains have 100 mph operating speeds.
- Both trains appear to have well-designed interiors.
- Both trains will be compatible with respect to station, track and signalling.
Additionally, their Class 755 trains for secondary routes will have similar performance, opening up the possibility of other direct services to London.
I believe that eventually, Thameslink services will be run by two sets of compatible trains.
If they borrowed from Greater Anglia’s logic, this could see.
- A sub-fleet suitable for long-distance services with twelve-car trains, First Class, tables and better seats for steerage.
- A sub-fleet suitable for London commuter services with eight-car trains and no First Class.
Note.
- The current seats may be acceptable for eight-car trains running short commuter routes.
- All trains would be fitted with wi-fi, power-sockets, cup holders, seat-back tables and other passenger-friendly equipment where appropriate.
- Of the long-distance routes, only Cambridge to Maidstone East is proposed to be run by an eight-car train.
- The long-distance trains would have the ability to run at 110 mph, where possible and needed.
I believe with a bit of sorting and remanufacturing, the current fleet could do a much better job.
- Passengers would get better seats and other facilities.
- Thameslink would get faster services on long routes.
- Would a more passenger-friendly train attract more passengers, especially in the Off Peak?
- Services on the Brighton, East Coast and Midland Main Lines would allow faster running of other services.
I don’t think I’m talking about anything that is too difficult.
Would It Be Advantageous To Allow Some Twelve-Car Trains To Split And Join?
In Has Thameslink Got The Wrong Length Of Train?, I showed how if the trains were twelve- and six-car units and the latter had the ability to split and join automatically, this would lead to the following.
- More efficient use of trains.
- Better operation on the Sutton Loop Line.
- The creation of extra services by splitting at the ends of a route.
I also showed how it may be possible to adjust the lengths of the current fleet into twelve- and six-car units.
Put Thameslink On The Tube Map
I know it was an initial service, but passenger numbers on my journey from Brighton to Cambridge , must have been well below Thameslink’s forecast for the route.
I doubt more than a handfull did the whole route, like I did.
It was particularly noticeable, that passengers were thin on the ground between London Bridge and Finsbury Park stations.
And yet this route will have the following characteristics, when Thameslink is fully open.
- Six trains per hour (tph). Running all day.
- Two extra tph in the Peak.
- Full step-free access at London Bridge station.
- Full step-free access at Finsbury Park station, including to the Piccadilly and Victoria Lines.
- Same platform interchange with services to and from Moorgate on the Northern City Line at Finsbury Park.
- Step-free access at all the intermediate stations between London Bridge and Finsbury Park.
I think that Finsbury Park could become a well-used interchange for Thameslink passengers.
But like other interchanges, it needs to be shown on the Tube map, so passengers know it’s there.
On the other hand, if you ask National Rail’s timetable, the best route from Brighton to Oakliegh Park at 11:30 on a Monday, it advises using Thameslink to Finsbury Park and then a local train on the Northern City Line.
More And Better Interchanges on Thameslink
Thameslink doesn’t have many interchanges with the Underground.
- West Hampstead Thameslink
- Kentish Town
- Finsbury Park
- Kings Cross St. Pancras
- Farringdon
- London Blackfriars
- London Bridge
- Elephant and Castle
Some are fairly rudimentary and involve some walking, that is not easy.
There is also two interchanges with the Overground.
- Peckham Rye
- Denmark Hill
But the Thameslink frequency at these stations, is only four tph, with two extra in the Peak.
Various plans have been floated in the last few years.
- New stations at Camberwell and Loughborough Junction have been proposed.
- A new transport hub linking Catford and Catford Bridge stations has been proposed.
- A pedestrian link between City Thameslink and St. Paul’s stations.
- An extension to the Docklands Light Railway to City Thameslink and on to Charing Cross, Euston and Victoria.
Thameslink will only get bigger and better.
By Class 700 Train To Brighton And Back
Today, I went to Brighton for lunch and a walk on the promenade to get some October sun.
I hadn’t intended to go to Brighton, but just to take the short route across London from St. Pancras to East Croydon, to see if any Class 700 trains were working the route.
However a Brighton-bound Class 700 turned up and just before East Croydon station, the conductor turned up and he offered to sell me an extension ticket to Brighton for £9.95.
So why not? As the day was sunny, I accepted his offer and as he didn’t have the right change of 5p for a tenner, he gave me 10p. in change.
Perhaps, Govia Thameslink Railway’s conductors are doing a PR job to enhance their reputation.
These pictures detail the journey.
Because the journeys were deep in the Off Peak, the trains weren’t that busy.
I would describe the trains as adequate for the core route from East Croydon to West Hampstead and Finsbury Park, but they do have limitations for long-distance commuters.
- There are no tables or even anywhere to put a drink.
- There is no wi-fi.
- There are no power sockets to charge a laptop or phone.
The new Class 345 trains for Crossrail, don’t have tables either, but they do have wi-fi. But these are short-distance trains and unlike the Class 700 trains, which are taking over from Class 387 trains with tables, most of previous stock that worked from Reading to Shenfield didn’t have tables, wi-fi or power sockets.
Govia Thameslink Railway must be really pleased to get a set of trains, without some of the features their passengers demand.
To be fair it’s not their fault, as these trains were designed to fit a Passenger Focus report which can be found on the Internet, that was written in the dying days of the last Labour Government.
Read the document and draw your own conclusions.
However, all is nor lost!
This article on Rail Engineer is entitled Class 707 Breaks Cover and it describes the Class 707 train, which is a sister train to the Class 700. This is said about the two trains and wi-fi and toilets.
Thameslink (or the Department for Transport which ordered the trains) decided not to include Wi-Fi in the Class 700s, a questionable decision that has now apparently been reversed. Fortunately, Siemens had included the technology framework in the design so, hopefully, the upgrade will not require too much effort. Suffice it to say that South West Trains has included Wi-Fi in its specification for Class 707s.
Reversing the story, Thameslink Class 700s are all fitted with toilets. However, South West Trains has decided not to include toilets in its Class 707 specification given that the longest journey time is less than one hour and their inclusion would reduce the overall capacity of the trains.
So it appears that Siemens may have future-proofed the trains. To this end, when they certify the Class 707 train, they’ll certify the train for overhead electrification as well.
Looking at the way the seats are cantilevered from the side of the train, I suspect that Siemens might also have a table design in their box of delights.
I think you might have a very different usage of the trains throughout the day.
Obviously, in the Peak, the trains will be very full, but during the Off Peak, where there are obviously less passengers, perhaps a couple of tables per car, might prove to be a nice marketing feature to encourage travel.
We shall see what happens, but I can certainly see some improvement carried out to these trains in the next few years.