No Wires At Bolton Station – 17th April 2018
These pictures show the state of the electrification at Bolton station.
Little seems to have happened since my last visit on November 17th last year.
Although it does seem that the new Manchester-facing bay platform is complete except for the electrification.
I also saw no electrification between Bolton and Salford Crescent stations.
If I reckoned that the progress of the electrification on the Gospel Oak to Barking Line was slow, this beats it by a country mile!
No Wires At Salford Crescent Station – 17th April 2018
These pictures show the state of the electrification at Salford Crescent station.
Note that there were no overhead wires through the station and also on the line to Salford Central and Manchester Victoria station. There still appears to be a lot of work to do.
Under Improvements the Wikipedia entry for the station says this.
In 2007, Network Rail recognised that Salford Crescent could not cope with existing passenger levels, leading to platform overcrowding. It suggested expansion of the station with extra platforms, greater use of it as an interchange and use as a terminus for services from east of Manchester. It also raised the possibility of moving the station.
In 2012, improvement work started at the station, including platform extensions, a new rain canopy and the relocation of the ticket office to street level. The works were completed in October 2013 and officially opened by Mayor of Salford, Ian Stewart.
This Google Map shows the station.
I think, it will be a tight fit for extra platforms, as the station is surrounded on all sides by Salford University.
The solution would probably be to build on top of a new station, that was in a strong concrete box.
Changing Trains At Salford Crescent Station
Today, I arrived at Salford Crescent on a train running between Bolton and Manchester Victoria stations.
As I needed to go to Manchester Piccadilly station, I left on a train running between Blackpool North and Manchester Airport stations.
Consider.
- In the few minutes, I was on the station, I must have heard staff asked, which train do I get to Piccadilly or Victoria, several times.
- Surrey Quays station handles three routes at the South end of the Thames Tunnel and currently handles sixteen trains per hour (tph)
- With high-quality signalling and a measure of automatic train control, I could expect Salford Crescent station to handle at least 12 tph, in both directions.
- Is the island platform wide enough?
- Is loading slowed as a lot of trains calling at the station are just two cars, with four doors?
- Is loading slowed as many of the trains, aren’t step-free from the platform to the train?
- Are there always staff on the platform.
I believe that operation of the station could be improved.
Reversing Direction At Salford Crescent Station
The current island layout allows passengers to change direction by walking across the platform.
As an example, if you go between Farnworth and Swinton stations, one of the recommended routes is via Salford Cresent.
An Improved Design For Salford Crescent Station
Perhaps before deciding to rebuild the station, serious work should be done to see if the station throughput in terms of trains and passengers can be improved.
My ideas would include.
A Wider Platform
This picture shows the island platform at Canonbury station.
It could handle a whole company of Grenadier Guards and all their kit, whereas Salford Crescent would struggle with a platoon.
Canonbury’s wide platform also has the following in the centre.
- A large covered shelter.
- A large number of seats.
- A coffee stall
It also allows passengers to stand well-back when a train goes through the station, without stopping.
Note that Canonbury is a station, where the platforms are uncovered. Would this be a wise idea in Manchester, even with a large central shelter?
Lomger Trains
a lot of trains going through Salford Crescent station are just two cars.
Northern‘s new trains will include, the following electric trains and bi-mode trains.
32 – four-car Class 319 trains
12 – four-car Class 331 trains
31 – three-car Class 331 trains, which will replace the Class 323 trains.
11 – four-car Class 769 bi-mode trsins.
If all trains calling at Salford Crescent were four-cars or more, this would probably mean at least eight doors, which would would speed up loading and unloading.
This would reduce dwell times at the station and increase capacity in terms of the number of trains per hour.
Level Access Between Platform And Trains
If the platforms are widened, I susopect with Harrington Humps, that this could be achieved.
This picture shows two Hsrrington Hump is at Canonbury.
If passengers in wheelchairs, buggy-pushers and those pulling heavy cases could just walk or push the,selves across.
Again, this would reduce dwell times and increase capacity.
Better Information
Given that I heard passengers asking the same question, I suspect that better informayion, could make the station easier fot interchang passengers.
Using the displays on Thameslink and at London Bridge station would be a good start.
An Up Escalator
Sal;ford Central station has a long set of stairs and a lift.
Many passengers with movement difficulties would welcome an up escalator.
Conclusion
I believe that a much improved station can be creased , without the expence of adding a new platform.
Wires, New Platforms And Sidings At Blackpool North Station – 17th April 2018
I took these pictures as I entered Blackpool station.
Note.
- There are now six straight platforms at the station.
- The platforms are long and can probably take an eleven-car Class 390 train.
- There seems to be five or six long sidings for trains, just outside the station.
- There is certainly evidence of ongoing work.
They certainly seem to be expecting a lot of trains.
If not soon, the station is future proofed.
What Trains Will Run To Blackpool?
I think the routes from Blackpool should have a minimum frequency of at least two tph.So the base local service should be.
- Two tph – Blackpool North to Liverpool Lime Street Class 319 train
- Two tph – Blackpool North to Manchester Airport – Class 319 train
- Two tph – Blackpool South nto Colne – Class 769 train
Other routes could include these services.
- 1-2 tph – Blackpool North to York via Leeds
- 1-2 tph – Blackpool North to Hazel Grove via Manchester Piccadilly – Class 319 train
- 1-2 tph – Blackpool North to Huddersfield via Manchester Victoria.
- 1-2 tph – Blackpool North to Ormskirk via Preston – Class 769 trains.
I wrote about the last service in Northern’s Plans For Between Preston And Ormskirk. But as Blackpool North station has six terminal platforms, it might be a better terminus than Preston.
Even if all of these services were to be two tph, this would only be fourteen tph between Preston and Kirkham and Wesham stations.
But the signalling is now modern and Northern have ordered a lot of 100 mph trains.
Obviously, Network Rail have got to finish the electrification.
Wires At Poulton-le-Fylde Station – 17th April 2018
These pictures show Poulton-le-Fylde station.
Note.
- The station has been refurbished.
- The overhead wires appear to be complete.
- A lift has been installed.
- The cafe has reopened.
- The island platform is wide.
- There are a pair of proper clocks.
It is surely now one of the best stations in the country with a single island platform, serving both lines.
Wires At Kirkham And Wesham Station – 17th April 2018
These pictures show Kirkham and Wesham station.
Note.
- Two new lifts are being installed.
- The overhead wires appear to be complete on the two main lines.
- The platform used by the Blackpool South Branch appears not to have been electrified.
Does anybody know if the line to Blackpool South station will be electrified?
- After all a four-coach bi-mode train like a Class 769 train could run the service.
- The last two Open Championships at Royal Lytham and St.Annes, were in 2012 and 2001, so it could return in the early 2020s.
But that gives the Blackpool area and Northern time to create the proper transport solution for the next Open at Royal Lytham and St. Annes.
What Rolling Stock Will Northern Use Between Blackpool North And Manchester Airport Stations From Tomorrow?
I was alerted to the opening of the service, by this article in Rail Technology Magazine, which is entitled Blackpool To Preston Route To Reopen After Major 5-Month Transformation.
As I was coming up to see someone on Tuesday, I’ve decided to come up on the first Virgin from Euston at 16:33 to Blackpool North station.
My train coming up from London, is I suspect a Class 221 train, as I’m in First in Coach E. So I’ll be diesel-hauled all the way.
I have read somewhere that four-car trains will be running between Blackpool North and Manchester Airport stations, so as these trains will be going via Bolton, where there is still no electrification, I would expect, that Northern will be running a couple of Class 156 trains on this route.
But the route would also be an ideal one to introduce the long-awaited Class 769 trains!
- Trains call at Poulton-le-Fylde, Preston, Buckshaw Parkway, Chorley, Horwich Parkway, Bolton, Salford Crescent, Deansgate, Oxford Road, Piccadilly and Heald Green.
- It is electrified, except for between Preston and Deansgate, which could be ready in May 2018.
- The trains are four-cars with a universal access toilet, so are a step up from the previous rolling stock.
In their news release on the reopening of the Blackpool to Preston route, Northern says this.
Train services between Preston and Blackpool North will resume from Monday 16 April 2018 initially with one train per hour allowing time for driver training on the route.
Obviously, drivers have to learn the route, but as Northern have a fleet of thirty-two Class 319 trains, I suspect they have enough drivers to handle this fleet, when they eventually get to run between Blackpool North and Manchester Airport.
I think it’s unlikely, but I wouldn’t be completely surprised to see Class 769 trains working this route for training purposes.
In Does A New Service Start Between Wigan North Western And Alderley Edge Stations Using Class 769 Trains On May 20th?, I came to the conclusion that from May 20th, Northern will be adding these two hourly services using Class 769 trains.
- Wigan North Western and Alderley Edge
- Wigan North Western and Stalybridge
So will the training of the drivers be completed between Blackpool North and Preston?
Blackpool North And Liverpool Lime Street
I have been exploring this route on the timetable.
I found these trains running from Blackpool North to Liverpool Lime Street.
- Sundays from April 22nd an hourly train between 11:00 and 22:00
- Monday to Saturday from April 20th a direct train at 18:02.
- Sundays from May 21st an hourly train between 08:30 and 22:00
- Monday to Saturday from May 21st an hourly service between 06:00 and 22:00
And these trains running from Liverpool Lime Street to Blackpool North.
- Sundays from April 22nd an hourly train between 08:47 and 20:47
- Monday to Saturday from April 20th a direct train at 07:56.
- Sundays from May 21st an hourly train between 06:36 and 22:15
- Monday to Saturday from May 21st an hourly service between 06:00 and 22:00
I would assume that all trains would be served by Class 319 trains.
I think that Northern are being canny here.
- Liverpool Lime Street and Blackpool North services will be run from the next weekend, with an hourly Sunday service. This will sort out any possible problems with an hourly service, before it is introduced on May 20th.
- They have added a couple of trains to help commuters between Liverpool and Blackpool.
- There is still a lot of capacity between Preston and Blackpool North for training.
It will be interesting to see how passengers react to the new timetable on May 20th.
Greater Anglia, The Fen Line And Class 755 Trains
Greater Anglia currently operates two trains per day between King’s Lynn and Liverpool Street stations, in the Morning Peak
- 05:17 – 07:25 – 2 hr. 8 min.
- 06:17 – 08:25 – 2 hr. 8 min.
This is matched by three trains a day between Liverpool Street and King’s Lynn, in the Evening Peak.
- 17:07 – 19:08 – 2 hr. 1 min.
- 18:-07 – 20:10 – 2 hr. 3 min.
- 19:07 – 21:05 – 1 hr 58 min.
Note.
- The two Morning Peak trains stop at Watlington, Downham Market, Littleport, Ely, Cambridge North, Cambridge, Whittesford Parkway, Audley End, Bishops Stortford and Tottenham Hale.
- The three Evening Peak trains call similarly, but miss out Cambridge North.
- Services are run by Class 317 or Class 379 trains.
All the passenger trains on the Fen Line including Great Northern’s Class 387 trains, are four x twenty metre cars, which can run as four, eight or twelve cars.
Maximum Length Of Trains On The Fen Line
This article in the Eastern Daily Press is entitled Plans For Longer Trains Between King’s Lynn And London Could Be Delayed.
Reading it, I get the following impressions.
- The Fen Line can currently accept four-car trains.
- Eight-car trains are needed.
- Plans have been or are being developed to lengthen all platforms to accept eight car trains.
- Network Rail are quoted as saying “The King’s Lynn eight car scheme is amongst the CP5 projects that have funding.”
Extending further might well be out of the question, on grounds of cost and inconvenience to passengers, whilst the work is carried out.
Greater Anglia’s Trains And The Fen Line
There is a problem for Greater Anglia, as both the Class 317 and Class 379 trains are being moved on.
Class 745 Trains
The thirty x four-car Class 379 trains, that work the express West Anglia Main Line services are being replaced with ten x twelve-car Stadler Class 745 trains.
These trains will be too long for the Fen Line.
Class 720 Trains
Five-car Class 720 trains would fit the Fen line and as they are 100 mph trains, like the Class 317 and Class 379 trains, they could handle the current service.
Class 755 Trains
Greater Anglia currently have the equivalent of twenty-eight assorted diesel trains in different lengths, which they are replacing with thirty-eight bi-mode Class 755 trains.
These are.
- 100 mph trains.
- Bi-mode trains with the ability to run on electric or diesel.
- Compatible with the Class 745 trains.
Fourteen will be three-car trains and twenty-four will be four-car trains.
Greater Anglia, have already said they will run services to and from Liverpool Street from Lowestoft, so will they use the extra trains to run services to and from Liverpool Street to important East Anglian towns?
It is worth looking at the capacity of the various trains.
- Class 379 train – four-car – 189 2nd/20 1st
- Class 755 train – three-car – 166 2nd
- Class 755 train – four-car – 224 2nd
- Class 720 train – five-car – 430 2nd
Would a four-car Class 755 train have sufficient capacity for a service between Kings Lynn and Liverpool Street?
I think the answer is probably in the affirmative, but a six or seven car train couple be created, by joining two trains together, if required.
So if the Class 755 trains can provide direct Liverpool Street services for Kings Lynn and Lowestoft, what other towns could get a direct service to London?
- Bury St. Edmunds – Either via Newmarket and Cambridge or Stowmarket and Ipswich
- Cromer/Sheringham via Norwich and Ipswich
- Norwich via Wymondham, Attleborough, Thetford, Ely and Cambridge
- Peterborough via March and Cambridge
- Yarmouth via Via Norwich and either Ipswich or Cambridge.
I can remember, when some of these towns had services to Liverpool Street.
Trains could also split and join at Cambridge and Ipswich to save paths on the main lines to London.
Could trains go up to London in the Morning Peak and return in the Evening Peak?
If there was sufficient demand, they could return in mid-morning and come back to Liverpool Street in mid-afternoon, in time for the Evening Peak.
If so, how many trains would be needed?
- Bury St. Edmunds (35k) – 1
- Cromer (7k)/Sheringham (7k) – 1
- King’s Lynn (43k) – 3
- Lowestoft (70k) – 1
- Norwich via Cambridge – 2
- Peterborough – 1
- Yarmouth (47k) – 1
The figures in brackets are the population
Considering, that my rough calculation, showed there were ten spare trains, these numbers seem feasible.
I have some questions.
- How many Class 755 trains will be able to link together?
- Will platforms needed to be extended at Liverpool Street
- Could Lincoln be reached from London, via a reopened March to Spalding Line via Wisbech?
- Could a Yarmouth and Lowestoft service to London be created by reopening the chord at Reedham?
- Would it be a good idea to have a dozen First Class seats in the Class 755 trains doing the London commute.
I feel that Greater Anglia have ambitious plans.
Conclusion
From this rather crude analysis, it appears that Greater Anglia will be using the Class 755 trains as three and four car electric trains on the electrified lines to Cambridge, Ipswich and Norwich and then using their diesel power to create new direct routes to the capital.
I also suspect, trains will split and join at Cambridge, Ipswich and Norwich to reduce the number of paths needed to and from London. After all one twelve-car train is cheaper to run than three four-car trains!
Could Greater Anglia be bringing forward a timetable, where any town in East Anglia, with a population of over say 10,000, gets at least one fast train to London in the morning and back in the evening?
As the tracks, signals and stations are already there, away from the main lines, there may be little that needs doing.
If not, Greater Anglia have bought too many trains.
Does A New Service Start Between Wigan North Western And Alderley Edge Stations Using Class 769 Trains On May 20th?
On the Wikipedia entry for Class 769 trains, this is said about the introduction into service of the trains by Northern.
Scheduled to begin entering service in May 2018, Northern plans to deploy its Class 769 units on the Windermere branch line and also their Manchester Airport to Windermere, Wigan North Western to Alderley Edge and Wigan North Western to Stalybridge services
I have looked at the National Rail timetable for the 19th of May and looked up getting between Wigan North Western and Alderley Edge station involves a change at Manchester Piccadilly station.
But look at the journey on the 21st of May and there is an hourly direct train.
- First train – 08:50
- Last train – 19:50
- Journey time – 78 minutes
The train will stop at Hindley, Westhoughton, Bolton, Salford Crescent, Deansgate, Manchester Oxford Road, Manchester Piccadilly, Levenshulme, Heaton Chapel, Stockport, Cheadle Hulme, Handforth and Wilmslow.
In the other direction, the service is as follows.
- Hourly
- First train – 06:49
- Last train – 19:48
- Journey time – 70 minutes
It is an ideal route for a Class 769 train.
- Between Wigan North Western and Bolton is not electrified.
- I also suspect that Bolton and Salford Crescent won’t have the wires completed by the 20th of May.
Manchester will be getting another cross-city service courtesy of a thirty-year-old electric train, with a couple of diesel engines slung underneath.
Wigan North Western And Stalybridge
An hourly service from Wigan North Western to Stalybridge also appears to be in the timetable from the 21st of May.
- First train – 08:08
- Last train – 22:50
- Journey time – 59 minutes
The trains will stop at Hindley, Westhoughton, Bolton, Moses Gate, Farnworth, Kearsley (Manchester), Salford Crescent, Salford Central, Manchester Victoria and Ashton-under-Lyne.
In the other direction, the service is as follows.
- First train – 06:30
- Last train – 21:29
- Journey time – 63-66 minutes
It is another ideal route for a Class 769 train.
- Between Wigan North Western and Salford Central not fully electrified.
As the current service between Wigan Wallgate and Stalybridge seems to have been discontinued, it looks like Pacers and elderly diesels are being replaced by electric trains.
Conclusion
It looks to me, that as the electrification through Bolton and Salford Crescent, that Northern are doing the best they can with what they have available.
I estimate that Northern will need around six trains to run these two services, one of which is new and the other a change of terminus from Wallgate to North Western at Wigan.
NR Set To Reach Major Shotts Electrification Milestone Over Easter
The title of this post is the same as that of this article in Rail Technology Magazine.
I’m not totally sure, but it looks like they will complete the overhead wires between Edinburgh and Glasgow along the Shotts Line.
They certainly seem to be moving on apace with electrification in Scotland, unlike around the North West of England.






















































