Does Northern See Wigan As A Class 769 Train Hub?
The Wikipedia entry for Northern, shows under their entry for eight Class 769 trains, that the routes they will cover include.
- Liverpool to Wigan
- Manchester to Wigan North Western via Bolton.
Wigan is a proud and friendly town and I wrote about it in Wigan On The Up.
The West Coast Main Line through Wigan North Western station is electrified and Northern run half-hourly electric services to Liverpool using Class 319 trains.
But the other station; Wigan Wallgate is not wired and is definitely Pacer territory.
Liverpool to Wigan
As Liverpool Lime Street to Wigan North Western is fully electrified, I would be very surprised if Northern would run a bi-mode Class 769 train on this route, except as a stand-in for a failed Class 319 train.
Routes to places North of Wigan North Western, like Blackpool, Lancaster and Preston will be fully-electrified, so these routes can be served by the Class 319 trains.
Northern could be thinking of running a service between Liverpool Lime Street and Blackburn/Burnley for which a Class 769 train would be ideal.
But I think more likely, is that they are thinking of using Class 769 trains on the Kirkby Branch Line, which currently links Kirkby and Wigan Wallgate stations.
Consider.
- There is talk of running this branch as a shuttle.
- Wigan Wallgate station already has a suitable bay platform for a shuttle.
- The route is double-track except between Kirkby and Rainford stations.
- Kirkby to Wigan Wallgate takes a convenient twenty-four minutes.
- Merseyrail have a long term ambition to built a new Headbolt Lane station, as an interchange between their Northern Line and services to Wigan and Manchester.
- Merseyrail want to serve Skelmersdale.
Could this route be the reason for the reported Battery EMUs For Merseyrail?
- The Class 769 trains are used between Kirkby and Wigan Wallgate stations as a shuttle.
- Two trains would be able to provide a two trains per hour (tph) service, without any new infrastructure.
- Merseyrail ascertain that their new Stadler trains can travel between Kirkby and Wigan Wallgate and back on battery power.
- Merseyrail determine if a fast charging station is needed in the bay platform at Wigan Wallgate for their Stadler trains.
If the Class 769 trains show the passenger traffic is there and the Stadler trains can handle the route on batteries, could we see some or all of the Merseyrail Northern Line services extended to Wigan Wallgate?
Because the Stadler trains will be fast modern trains designed to execute stops quickly, I suspect that even on the single track section of line between Kirkby and Rainford stations, they could run at the frequency of four tph, that is currently run all day between Kirkby and Liverpool Central stations.
- This would mean that the the current four tph to Kirkby would become four tph to Wigan Wallgate.
- The service would be run by brand-new Stadler trains.
- The track at Kirkby would have to be relaid to allow trains to run straight through.
- The signalling would probably need updating.
- Means to charge the trains at Wigan Wallgate might need to be provided.
- A new single-platform station could be built at Headbolt Lane.
- The four stations between Kirkby and Wigan Wallgate would get four tph in both directions.
It would give The Train To Wigan Pier a whole new meaning.
Once they had done their good works in proving the route, the Class 769 trains would be posted elsewhere to do more missionary work.
Manchester to Wigan North Western via Bolton
This is the other route mentioned in Wikipedia.
Consider.
- Bolton to Manchester will be electrified, by the end of the year.
- The route passes through Ince, Hindley, Westhoughton and Lostock.
Class 769 trains travelling this route, would open a second electrified route between Manchester and Preston via Wigan.
Manchester to Southport
Why was this route not mentioned?
- Manchester to Southport is a route run mainly by Pacers to a frequency of two tph.
- Some trains go via Bolton and some via Atherton.
- The route via Bolton will be partly electrified by the end of the year.
- The route via Atherton is not electrified.
I suspect that under current plans of just eight Class 769 trains, there aren’t enough to use them on this busy route.
Ideally, this route should be run with two tph going on each of the routes to Manchester from Wigan Wallgate.
The Future
Northern have ordered both diesel and electric Civity multiple units from CAF.
In Auckland Mulls Battery-Electric Train Order, I looked at how CAF had proposed battery-electric Civity trains for Auckland.
I’m sure CAF wouldn’t mind varying the order.
Capacity Crunch At Chester – Borderlands Line
The Capacity Crunch At Chester article in the July 2017 Edition of Modern Railways talked about the Borderlands Line.
The article says this about the line and the passenger service.
The line is currently worked by two ATW Class 150/2 Sprinter units, which do their best to maintain the clockface hourly frequency. The Wrexham-Bidston Rail Users Association told the Wales & Borders franchise inquiry performance is far from ideal, highlighting late running frequently leads to trains being turned back at Shotton, meaning they do not reach Bidston to connect with Merseyrail services to Liverpool and leaving lengthy gaps at intermediate stations in England.
The article then talks about electrifying the line, but Network Rail have indicated that this would cost £207million. Apparently, third-rail electriication now needs palisade fencing along the track.
Enter The Class 455 Flex Train
In The Class 319 Flex Units To Be Class 769, I commented on the report, that Porterbrook were also looking at converting Class 455 trains to bi-modes.
Consider.
- These trains could probably work Merseyrail’s tunnels, as they are closely related to the current trains.
- They have quality 2 x 2 interiors.
- They meet all regulations.
- Performance is similar to the current trains.
- They are four-cars.
- Porterbrook will have ninety-one trains to place, when South Western Railway replaces them with Aventras.
The only problem is that the interiors are very red, which might upset half of Merseyside.
But I think it is possible that we could see Class 455 Flex trains working the Borderlands Line.
- From Wrexham to Bidston, they would use their on-board diesel engines.
- At Bidston, they would change from diesel to third-rail electric power.
- From Bidston to Liverpool, they would join the queue of trains from the Wirral and go round the newly-rebuilt Loop Line.
I’m pretty sure, that if Merseyrail have signalled the Loop appropriately, that there would be enough capacity in the Loop to run two trains per hour (tph) between Wrexham and Liverpool.
Based on the following current timings.
- Liverpool Lime Street -to Bidston – 17 minutes
- Bidston to Wrexham – 1 hour
With a few performance tweaks, I suspect that a Class 455 Flex train could do the round trip in well under three hours.
So three trains could easily handle the current hourly service, but would give the following advantages.
- Direct access to Liverpool City Centre.
- Four-cars instead of two.
- A much better interior.
The only problem would be checking that the Class 455 trains would fit the tunnels in the Loop Line. But seeing, that the Class 455 trains, were built as a successor to the Class 508 trains used by Merseyrail, I suspect they fit.
Could Class 319 Flex Trains Be Used?
The reason I looked at Class 455 Flex trains first is that in a article in the June 2017 Edition of Modern Railways, which is entitled ‘319 Flex’ Units To Be Class 769, this is said.
The company reports considerable interest in the concept and expects further orders soon, while it is also considering transferring the concept to other rolling stock, such as Class 455 EMUs.
As Porterbrook will soon receiving around ninety of these trains from South Western Railway, these struck me as possibilities for the Borderlands Line.
If you look at Merseyrail’s current Class 507 and Class 508 trains, Class 455 trains and Class 319 trains, they all appear to have a similar 2.82 metre width and a 3.58 metre height.
So if Class 319 Flex trains could work the tunnels under Liverpool, what would this do to service on the Borderlands Line.
- Their 90 mph as opposed to 75 mph operating speed could bring the round trip under two and a half hours.
- Five trains would be needed for a 2 tph service.
- Wrexham to Liverpool times of under an hour and fifteen minutes should be possible.
- The better performance of the trains would allow extra stops to be made with ease.
- The trains can have First Class seats and fully-accessible toilets.
In Wales Orders Some Golden Oldies, I noted how Arriva Trains Wales are acquiring five Class 319 Flex trains as cover for the refurbishment of Class 150 and Class 158 trains on the Cardiff Valley Lines.
So once all of these diesel trains have been refurbished, will we be seeing the Class 319 Flex trains moved to the Borderlands Line?
Capacity Crunch At Chester – Halton Curve
The Capacity Crunch At Chester article in the July 2017 Edition of Modern Railways talks about the Halton Curve.
The curve will allow services between Liverpool Lime Street, South Liverpool and Liverpool Airport to Chester and North Wales.
The article says this.
Initially, Merseytravel will subsidise an hourly Chester-Liverpool service via the Halton Curve, as a first step in the development of enhanced services using the curve.
It then goes on to quote Huw Jenkins if Merseytravel as saying.
It would be a priority for the new Wales and Borders franchise to introduce regular services via the curve to Liverpool from significant stations in North Wales, including Bangor, Llandudno and Wrexham.
The business case for the Halton Curve is also stated to include.
- Bangor to Liverpool in 140 minutes.
- Llandudno to Liverpool in 130 minutes.
- Create an alternative route between Liverpool and Cardiff via Chester and Shrewsbury.
I would suspect that the direct service between Cardiff and Liverpool will take about three and a half hours in something like a Class 802 train.
These trains could also probably travel between Liverpool and Shrewsbury in around ninety minutes, giving access to all the West Wales services at Shrewsbury station.
Conclusion
I have a feeling that when we look back on the reinstatement of the Halton Curve in a couple of decades, it could be a raging success and a very bad case of what I call London Overground Syndrome.
This is my definition of the disease.
This disease, which is probably a modern version of the Victorian railway mania, was first identified in East London in 2011, when it was found that the newly-refurbished East London Line and North London Line were inadequate due to high passenger satisfaction and much increased usage. It has now spread across other parts of the capital and across the UK, despite various eradication programs.
It is usually solved by adding more capacity.
Crossrails For The North
Regularly there are references in the media for Crossrail for the North.
This article in Rochdale Online is entitled Andy Burham calls for ‘Crossrail for North’
Note that the misspelling of Andy Burnham; the Mayor of Manchester’s name is from the web site.
Andy Burnham and many others have a point that West-East connections across the North are not good, but it is not that simple.
Hence the reason, I’ve called this post Crossrails For The North and not Crossrail For The North.
Northern And London Crossrails Compared
If you look at Greater London, the distance between Reading and Shenfield stations, which are two of the termini of London’s Crossrail, is about eighty miles and when Crossrail opens a train will take about one hour forty minutes.
By comparison, Liverpool to Leeds is just over seventy miles and the current fastest trains take ninety minutes with two stops at Manchester Victoria and Huddersfield stations.
Those that live East of Leeds, keep reading.
The differences between the two routes, when Crossrail opens will be mainly down to the number of stops, frequency and connectivity.
- The Northern Route is shorter and hence marginally faster.
- The London route has more stops.
- The London route has a higher frequency.
- The London route is electrified.
- The London route will be served by specially-designed Class 345 trains.
But possibly most importantly, the London route connects to a large number of North-South cross-city railways.
It is sensible to think of London’s Crossrail as a loose ball of chunky knitting wool with a big fat needle stuck through it.
The ball of knitting wool is Central London with all its Underground and Overground Lines.
- Bakerloo Line – North-West – South-East through City Centre
- Central Line – West-East through City Centre
- District Line – West-East through City Centre
- East London Line – North-South to East of City Centre
- Gospel Oak to Barking Line – West – East to North of City Centre
- Hammersmith and City Line – West – East through City Centre
- Jubilee Line – North-East through City Centre
- Metropolitan Line – West – East through City Centre
- Northern Line – North-South through City Centre
- Northern City Line – North from the City Centre.
- North London Line – West – East to North of City Centre
- Piccadilly Line – North – West through City Centre
- Thameslink – North – South through City Centre
- Victoria Line – North-East – South-West through City Centre
- Waterloo and City Line – South from the Centre Centre
- West London Line – North-South to West of City Centre
Crossrail is the big fat needle struck right through the middle.
You could actually argue that not just one big fat needle is through the middle, as Crossrail is paralleled by some of London’s historic Underground Lines.
- The Central Line connects at Stratford, Liverpool Street, Tottenham Court Road, Bond Street and Ealing Broadway stations.
- The District Line connects at Whitechapel and Ealing Broadway stations.
- The Metropolitan Line connects at Whitechapel, Farringdon and Paddington stations.
- In the future, the North London Line will connect at Stratford and the new Old Oak Common station.
Crossrail is going to be a massive playground for the duckers-and-divers, as they search for the fastest route.
How London Crossrail Will Develop
London Crossrail is not a complete system, with certain connections not of the best.
- Eurostar from St. Psncras International
- HighSpeed services from Stratford International
- HS2
- Piccadilly Line
- Scottish and Northern services from Euston and Kings Cross
- Victoria Line
Several of these connections can be addressed by smaller projects like the necessary rebuilding of tube stations like Bank, Charing Cross, Euston and Oxford Circus.
A lot of London politicians are pushing for Crossrail 2 , but London will be given a big increase in capacity with Crossrail and I think there is an opportunity to redefine the scope of the later project, in the light of what happens after Crossrail opens.
Consider the following, which will happen after Crossrail opens.
- Huge pedestrianisation will happen in the City of London and the West End.
- Hopefully, walking in large parts of Central London will improve to the standard of the bus- and car-free Central Liverpool.
- On foot interchanges like Oxford Circus-Bond Street and Bank-Liverpool Street will be easier and quicker than now.
- The long-neglected and ill-fated Northern City Line is getting new trains, higher frequencies and hopefully a deep-clean of the stations.
- Liverpool Street and Moorgate stations will effectively become one station with world class connectivity.
- The Waterloo and City Line will be improved and probably go 24/7!
- Waterloo station will get a forty percent capacity increase this summer.
- The Northern Line Extension to Battersea will open in 2020.
- New trains will have been delivered for London Overground’s Liverpool Street and Gospel Oak to Barking services.
Londoners will fully exploit the network and importantly Transport for London will have detailed information from the ticketing system on the routes taken and the bottlenecks as they develop.
Access For All
Access for All is a National programme, that is making stations all over the country accessible to as many passengers as possible.
Check the list of stations being updated under Access For All
After the General Election, I would not be surprised to see funding for this programme increased all over the country, as it is both necessary and a quick way to attract more passengers to the railways.
New Stations
Since 2000, seventy-four new stations have opened or reopened.
I can rarely remember stations reopening last century, but the 4-5 new stations every year since the turn of the Millennium, seems to have continued this year with the opening of Cambridge North, Ilkeston and Low Moor
The New Franchises
Five franchises have been awarded lately.
- Greater Anglia
- Northern
- ScotRail
- South Western Trains
- TransPennine
A feature of all these franchises is that the operators are introducing a lot of new trains and substantially refurbishing others.
Will this trend continue?
Obviously, the operators have done their sums and find that new trains attract more passengers.
There is a major problem with new trains, in that capacity to build them must be getting very short. I also don’t think that Chinese trains will be welcomed.
If I was Prime Minister, I’d make sure there was enough capacity to build and refurbish trains in the United Kingdom.
Building Crossrail 2
There is no doubt that at some time in the future, Crossrail 2 will be built.
But unlike Crossrail, which is a massive project similar in size to the Channel Tunnel,, the electrification of the Great Western Railway or HS2, it is a collection of smaller projects that can be phased over the years, with each phase giving substantial benefits to London, train companies and passengers, be they Londoners, commuters, visitors or tourists.
I would build it in the following sequence of sub-projects.
- Four-Tracking Of The West Anglia Main Line – Extra capacity on the West Anglia Main Line is needed for both improved London-Stansted-Cambridge services and Crossrail 2.
- New High-Capacity Crossrail-Compatible Trains North of London – Greater Anglia and London Overground have already ordered these trains to replace the current thirty-year-old trains.
- Station Improvements North of London – Improvement are much needed and are already planned and underway at Tottenham Hale and Meridian Water.
- Improve Connection To Sub-Surface Lines At St. Pancras Station – The current connectivity is terrible between these lines and Thameslink and the HighSpeed lines to Kent.
- Connect Euston Square Tube Station To Euston Station To Give Extra Capacity During Euston Rebuilding For HS2
- Introduction Of A New Stratford-Tottenham Hale-Angel Road Service – The delivery date for STAR is 2019.
- Introduction Of Chingford-Walthamstow-Stratford Services – This would improve access to Crossrail and take pressure from the Victoria Line.
- New Stansted And Cambridge Services From Stratford – Greater Anglia have suggested this and there’s even an unused loop at Stratford, that could be used to turn trains and allow them to call at Stratford International for Eurostar to the Continent and HighSpeed services to Kent.
- More Terminal Capacity for Trains From North of London – The Stratford loop would increase the terminal capacity for Greater Anglia and also give access to the Jubilee Line for London Bridge, Waterloo and Westminster.
- Use Improved Capacity At Waterloo To Increase Services On Proposed Crossrail 2 Southern Branches – The extra capacity should help.
- New High-Capacity Crossrail-Compatible Trains South of London – South Western Trains have indicated this will happen.
- Station Improvements South of London – Improvements are much needed.
- Rebuild Euston Tube Station In Cnjunction With HS2 –
Only when these phases are completed, would the central tunnel be bored.
This step-by-step approach has several advantages.
- The pace of the project can be geared to the finance and resources available.
- Some developments can have a significant local design and scope input.
- Much needed stations can be built early to generate passengers and cash flow.
- Trains can be follow-on orders to Crossrail.
- The suburban sections of the route will always be available for passenger traffic.
When Crossrail 2 is complete, the second big fat knitting needle has been stuck in the ball of wool.
What Can The North Learn From London?
I would argue that one of the keys to London’s success over the years has been its comprehensive multi-layered public transport system.
- Crossrail, Crossrail 2, Thameslink and the Overground could be considered the top layer.
- The Underground, the Docklands Light Railway and the suburban electric trains are the middle layer.
- Buses form the local and bottom layer.
Underneath a walking and cycling layer is emerging.
The North of England can be considered a series of local transport networks, which are connected by a series of major lines, which are equivalent to London’s Crossrail, Crossrail 2 etc.
Northern Connect
I find it interesting that Northern are introducing a Northern Connect service, which Wikipedia describes as follows.
From December 2019, Northern will operate a network of twelve Northern Connect interurban express services. Eleven of these will be operated by brand-new Class 195 diesel multiple units and Class 331 electric multiple units, whilst the Middlesbrough to Carlisle via Newcastle route will be operated by refurbished Class 158 units.
Places that will be served by Northern Connect routes include Bradford, Chester, Halifax, Leeds, Liverpool, Manchester, Middlesbrough, Nottingham, Newcastle, Preston, Sheffield, Barnsley, Lincoln, Wakefield and York.
Local Networks In The North
Some of the local Northern networks in places like Leeds, Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, Nottingham and Sheffield are certainly better than others.
It could also be argued that the six cities I named, are among the most successful and vibrant cities of the North.
I feel that for the railways to be successful in the North and for some cities to have a major improvement in prosperity, that some of the local networks need substantial improvement.
TransPennine And Feeder Routes
The starting point is to detail the Northern Connect and TransPennine Express services in the North.
The Northern Connect services given in the January 2016 Edition of Modern Railways are as follows.
- Middlesbrough to Newcastle
- Newcastle to Carlisle
- Hull to Sheffield
- Nottingham to Bradford via Leeds
- Lincoln to Leeds via Sheffield and Barnsley
- Liverpool to Manchester Airport via Warrington
- Chester to Leeds via Warrington, Manchester Victoria and the Calder Valley
- Blackpool North to York via Preston and Leeds
- Barrow to Manchester Airport
- Bradford to Manchester Airport via the Calder Valley.
- Blackpool to Manchester Airport
- Windermere to Manchester Airport
I suspect plans have changed since January 2016, but the possible routes are a good start.
According to Wikipedia, TransPennine routes are as follows.
- Liverpool Lime Street to Newcastle via Manchester Victoria, Huddersfield, Leeds and York
- Manchester Airport to Middlesbrough via Manchester Piccadilly, Huddersfield, Leeds and York
- Manchester Airport to York via Manchester Piccadilly, Huddersfield and Leeds
- Liverpool Lime Street to Scarborough via Manchester Piccadilly, Huddersfield, Dewsbury, Leeds and York
- Manchester Piccadilly to Hull via Huddersfield, Dewsbury, Leeds and Selby
- Manchester Airport to Cleethorpes via Manchester Piccadilly, Stockport, Sheffield, Meadowhall and Doncaster
- Manchester Airport to Edinburgh Waverley/Glasgow Central via Manchester Piccadilly
These routes will change in the next year, when the Ordsall Chord opens.
The opening of the chord, may mean that certain services to Manchester Airport, will not need to reverse at Manchester Piccadilly.
Summarising the East-West routes across the Pennines gives.
- Newcastle to Carlisle
- Manchester Victoria to Leeds via the Calder Valley Line
- Manchester Victoria to Leeds via Huddersfield
- Blackpool North to Leeds via Preston and the Calder Valley Line
- Manchester Piccadilly to Doncaster via the Hope Valley Line and Sheffield
None of these lines are fully electrified.
They are also connected to their ultimate destinations by feeder lines.
- Liverpool to Manchester Airport via Warrington
- Chester to Manchester Victoria via Warrington
- Liverpool to Manchester Victoria
- Leeds to Newcastle via York
- York to Middlesbrough
- York to Scarborough
- Leeds to Hull
Only the following lines will be fully electrified by December 2017.
- Liverpool to Manchester Victoria
- The West Coast Main Line
- The East Coast Main Line
- Some Suburban Routes in Blackpool, Liverpool, Manchester and Preston
- Some Suburban Routes in Bradford and Leeds
Most of the routes will have to be run by diesel or bi-mode trains.
The Crossrails For The North
There are five East-West routes across the Pennines used by Northern Connect and TransPennine Express.
- Newcastle to Carlisle
- Manchester Victoria to Leeds via the Calder Valley Line
- Manchester Victoria to Leeds via Huddersfield
- Blackpool North to Leeds via Preston and the Calder Valley Line
- Manchester Piccadilly to Doncaster via the Hope Valley Line and Sheffield
To these I would add two extra lines.
- Leeds to Carlisle via Settle
- Preston to Leeds via Burnley, Colne and Skipton.
Note
- I have added the Settle-Carlisle Line, as it is world-renowned, is in excellent condition and if provided with a decent train service, could be a major attraction, that would bring tourists to the area.
- The Skipton to Colne Line should be reinstated, to create a direct connection between the electrified local networks servingLeeds/Bradford and Liverpool/Manchester/Preston.
But there would be seven magnificent routes across the Pennines, which could be updated to the following objectives.
- Frequent trains on all lines with at least two trains per hour (tph)
- 100 mph running where possible.
- As high a frequency as possible on the core section between Manchester Victoria and Leeds. Plans exist for six tph, which is a good start.
- In the East trains would fan out to Cleethorpes, Grimsby, Hull, Newcastle and Scarborough, as they do now.
- In the West trains would fan out to Blackpool, Chester, Crewe and Liverpool.
- Lots of cross-platform connections at stations like Leeds, Liverpool, Manchester Victoria, Newcastle, Preston and York with long distance North-South services to London and the South and Scotland.
- All stations would be step-free with lifts or ramps.
In addition provision should be made early to make sure that there are good connections to HS2.
Electrification
Obviously, electrification would be an ultimate goal on all these East-West routes.
But there are various problems with the electrification of the Peenine sections of the routes.
- These lines have large numbers of low bridges and high viaducts.
- Electrification would need to be robust because of the weather.
- Electrification gantries might not fit well in the scenery.
- Installation and servicing of overhead electrification may not be an easy process.
On the other hand, the noise of diesel trains might not be welcomed.
However, I believe that in the next ten years much quieter self-powered trains will be commonplace.
At the present time, if diesel or bi-mode trains are acceptable, then they should be used to provide a service.
Looking at the various feeder routes to the East and West of the Pennine sections, it is a different matter.
- Routes are less challenging.
- There are fewer bridges and viaducts.
- Installation and servicing of overhead electrification would be easier.
There is already a lot of electrification at the East and West, which could be extended to places like Chester, Hull and Middlesbrough.
A Pennine core without difficult electrification, between electrified feeder routes may be the most efficient way to run the routes using bi-mode trains.
It might be sensible to use Class 88 bi-mode locomotives instead of the currently proposed Class 68 locomotives with rakes of coaches, as is planned by TransPennine Express.
A Hull to Liverpool service would run under the following power.
- Hull to Bradford via Leeds – Electricity
- Bradford to Stalybridge- Diesel
- Stalybridge to Liverpool via Manchester Victoria – Electricity.
Around thirty miles would be on diesel and the difficult electrification in the Pennines would be avoided.
Infrastructure
This table is a brief summary of the routes.
- Newcastle to Carlisle – Double track, 18 stations
- Manchester Victoria to Leeds via the Calder Valley Line – Double track – 17 stations
- Manchester Victoria to Leeds via Huddersfield – Double track – 14 stations
- Blackpool North to Leeds via Preston and the Calder Valley Line – Double track – 14 stations
- Manchester Piccadilly to Doncaster via the Hope Valley Line and Sheffield – Double track – 18 stations
- Leeds to Carlisle via Settle – Double track – 10 stations
- Preston to Leeds via Burnley, Colne and Skipton – Part Single track
Note.
- Most routes are double track, which aids train scheduling.
- All except Skipton to Colne seem to be in good condition.
- I can’t find much information about speed limits.
I think it is true to say, that none of the routes could be a high speed line, although a large proportion could have substantial speed increases.
From what I have seen in East Anglia, I suspect most routes could be upgraded to 100 mph, which with the train frequencies of say four tph could give a substantial increase in service quality.
Stations
Many of the secondary stations on these routes are not blessed with facilities like ticket machines, lifts and step-free access.
If I compare, what I see on the web, with what I have experienced in East Anglia, the quality of the smaller stations is not good.
Services
The services along the lines are not of a high frequency or of a high speed, but Northern and TransPennine Express intend to increase frequencies and speed.
The new trains with their faster stops will help.
This is said about the Future Services of TransPennine Express on Wikipedia.
A twice-hourly service between Manchester and Newcastle will be phased in between December 2016 and December 2017, made up of the existing service from Liverpool and a reinstated service from Manchester Airport. Trains between Liverpool and Newcastle will be extended to Edinburgh via the East Coast Main Line, giving a twice-hourly service between Leeds and Edinburgh together with an hourly CrossCountry service. Trains between Liverpool and Scarborough will be rerouted via Manchester Victoria and Newton-le-Willows to provide a half-hourly fast service between Liverpool and Manchester. It is also planned to operate a six train per hour frequency between Manchester and Leeds, up from five today.
I can’t find anything about timings.
A High Speed Line
Building a new high speed line will be difficult, expensive and may take years, as there will probably be a need for a costly tunnel through solid rock between Manchester and Leeds.
So a prudent Project Management strategy could be phased in the same way I proposed for London’s Crossrail 2.
- Increase Line Speed – This would probably give the largest benefit, as it would enable more and faster trains.
- Electrify From Leeds To York – This would enable TransPennine’s Class 802 trains between Liverpool/Manchester Airport and Newcastle/Edinburgh to run more efficiently.
- Electrify From Liverpool To Manchester Airport Via Warrington – This would tidy up electrification between Liverpool and Manchester.
- Electrify To Chester From Crewe and Warrington – This would link North Wales to the TransPennine routes.
- Electrify From Leeds To Hull – This would be a comparatively easy electrification.
- Create The Skipton To Colne Link – This would link the two Norhern suburban electric networks and become a valuable transport asset for both local residents and visitors.
- Improve Stations – Better facilities and atep-free access is desperately needed. Especially at secondary stations.
- Improve Local Networks In Selected Cities – Some are much better than others.
- Increase Train Frequencies – Run at least two tph on all routes.
Hopefully, a decent service can be provided, until a new high speed route can be built.
One great advantage that this project has compared say to the electrification of the Great Western Railway, is that because there are several current routes, if one needs to be closed for a short time, there is a suitable alternative.
The Pop Group That Saved A City With A Little Help From Their Friends
It is the fiftieth anniversary of the release of one of the best albums of all time; Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.
I bought the album and still have it somewhere.
But I don’t think most people understand how the Beatles changed a city completely.
Liverpool in the sixties had nasty undercurrents of violence and religious hatred. But in the five years, I lived in the city, these changed for the better, with the rivalry being transferred to support for your favourite group or football team.
Liverpool acquired a belief that it could take on the world and win.
Now, when I go back regularly, I find a confident, bustling, modern and friendly city, that compares to any in the world.
But what would have happened if the Beatles hadn’t?
Liverpool Pier Head On A Sunny Morning
When I was a student at Liverpool University in the 1960s, this area was so different.
I can only remember, the Three Graces and the Memorial to those with no known grave.
Incidentally, I talked to one of the volunteers in the Tate Liverpool and he says that Friday is often quiet in Liverpool. The gallery certainly was, but they were between exhibitions.
The statue looking out to sea is of Captain Frederick John “Johnnie” Walker, who was the most successful anti-submarine warfare commander during the Battle of the Atlantic.
Why Aren’t More High Streets Like Liverpool?
These pictures were taken early on a sunny morning in Liverpool’s main shopping street.
No buses, cars and taxis, only a few deliveries and little street clutter.
Imagine Oxford Street like this. Except you can’t as it’s not wide enough!
Both my local High Streets; Angel and Dalston are even main routes for trucks.
From Stockport Station To Liverpool Lime Street Station By Train
In a comment a friend said this about going by train from Stockport to Liverpool.
When we first moved here, there was no direct train to Liverpool, we had to go into Piccadilly, cross to Victoria and get a train to Liverpool. And before the trams that was a complete pain!
So how is it now?
Using National Rail Enquiries, I find that every hour there is a direct train from Stockport station to Liverpool South Parkway and Liverpool Lime Street stations at around twenty-five minutes past the hour, that takes a few minutes over the hour to get to Liverpool Lime Street.
They seem to be run by East Midlands Trains, so they will be a Class 158 train, which is fine.
If say you were to drive to Manchester Airport first, you can get a refurbished electric train, that takes virtually the same time to Liverpool.
Stockport To Manchester Airport
Until I wrote this, I hadn’t realised that Airport trains don’t go via Stockport, but they use the Styal Line that by-passes Stockport.
Looking at maps of the area, it would appear that there might be a way of trains going from Manchester to the Airport via Stockport.
Trains might take the Mid-Cheshire Line and then access the Styal Line at a new junction North of Gatley station.
This Google Map shows the area where the railway lines cross.
Gatley station is at the South-West corner of the map and the Styal Line runs Northwards past the motorway junction between the M60 and the A34.
The Mid-Cheshire Line runs across the map South of the motorway junction and the Alexandra Hospital.
I suppose the cost was too high, but then how do you put all the travellers’ cars on the train?
The fact that the rail link between Stockport and Manchester Airport wasn’t created at the same time as the motorway junction is a design crime of the highest order.
It looks to me that there is even space for a Park-and-Ride for Stockport and Manchester in the area.
The Ordsall Chord
The Ordsall Chord, will link Manchester Victoria and Piccadilly stations with a huge bridge across the Irwell, before the end of 2017
It will have four trains per hour (tph) in both directions, between Manchester Airport, Manchester Piccadilly, Oxford Road, Deansgate, Salford Central and Manchester Victoria stations. There is probably capacity for this service to go to eight tph,
Initially, trains will be refurbished four-car Class 319 electric trains, that currently work Liverpool to Manchester services.
These trains are no suburban trundlers, but will be able to cruise near to 100 mph on parts of the journey, thus knocking a few minutes off the time between Manchester Piccadlly and the Airport.
What Will The Ordsall Chord Do For Stockport?
I have to ask this question and until the timetables are published late this year, everything I say here will be speculation.
- I would be very surprised if there wasn’t at least 1 electric tph that went to Manchester Victoria station.
- Eventually, this service could be made more frequent and perhaps extended to Blackburn, Burnley, Huddsersfield or Stalybridge.
- If Manchester Victoria has been designed right, there should be same-platform interchange at the station to TransPennine services to places like Hull, Leeds, Newcastle and Edinburgh.
- I also suspect train companies will use the chord to provide new services like perhaps Chester to Leeds, that could go through Stockport.
Forget HS3 for the moment, this is the reality of 2017.
Liverpool to Manchester Airport
Several stations in Liverpool have an hourly service to Manchester Airport and this will probably get better as more Class 319 and Class 319 Flex Trains are brought into service.
It’s rather ironic, but from what I have found, that it would appear that Liverpool gets at least as good a service to Manchester Airport as does the much Stockport!
And Liverpool’s service is likely to double in frequency in the near future!
The Liverpool and Stockport services to Manchester Airport, do have one thing in common though! Both have intermediate stops at Manchester Piccadilly!
But why would you want to go to Manchester Piccadilly, when you’re just going a few miles down the road? Especially, as if you’re going to Manchester Piccadilly, you already have in excess of four tph.
Leeds To Manchester Airport
Currently, Leeds to Manchester Airport has a two tph service via Huddersfield.
When the Ordsall Chord opens that Leeds to Manchester services will go to a higher frequency via Manchester Victoria, thus improving the service to the Airport from Leeds, by giving Leeds passengers access to Manchester local tram and train services to the Airport.
Conclusions
Services from Stockport through Manchester will improve, due to the opening of the Ordsall hord and other electrification works.
But, Stockport needs a quick non-stop service to the Airport with a frequency of at least two tph for economic prosperity.
Perhaps to get a good service to Manchester Airport, your city must begin with L or M.
From Liverpool To Huddersfield
These pictures document a trip I took between Liverpool and Huddersfield.
Some thoughts on the trip.
The Class 319 Interior
The first batch of Northern’s Class 319 trains are very much pack-it-in specials for running commuter services around the Blackpool, Liverpool, Manchester Airport triangle.
They are good for a thirty-year-old train, but they could be better.
In Porterbrook’s Class 319 Flex brochure, they show a proposed interior based on a Class 319/4 with the following.
- A mix of 2×2 and 2×3 seating.
- 12 First Class seats
- 255 Standard Class seats
- A full-accessible toilet.
- Two luggage racks per car.
It would certainly be a much better passenger experience.
Works At Edge Hill
Buckingham Group obviously have a big project on to the East of Edge Hill station.
This Google Map shows the lines through and to the East of Edge Hill.
Note how to the South of the Retail Park and/or warehouses, work seems to be going on. Are extra tracks being created?
There is also a white scar at Wavertree Technology Park station, so if this was two fast lines, then fast services between Liverpool and Manchester and Wigan could storm in and out.
The Atherton Line
The Atherton Line is part of the Manchester-Southport Line and runs between Wigan Wallgate and Salford Crescent stations.
Wikipedia says this about Improvements to the Atherton Line.
There is ongoing feasibility into the conversion of parts of this line (Wigan–Atherton–Manchester) to operate as a Manchester Metrolink service with a higher frequency metro service for the Greater Manchester Boroughs of Wigan and Salford into the city centre. In November 2013, the Greater Manchester Combined Authority approved a recommended strategy for reconfiguring existing commuter services into tram-train operation, identifying the Atherton line as providing an opportunity for extending potential tram-train services from the south-east (Marple, Glossop) across the city centre and outwards to the north west.[2] Southport and Kirkby services on this line would be diverted to operate via Bolton. Additionally, Network Rail has identified electrification of Wigan to Southport, together with the Ormskirk–Preston line and the Burscough Curves as a possible source of new services.
I also think that the route from Salford Crescent to Southport via Atherton and Wigan could be ideal for electrifying in stages using Class 319 Flex trains to bridge any gaps.
The tools seem to be there, now is the time to think about how the work will be done.
Salford Crescent
Salford Crescent station could look very different in the future, as modern station design might be seen to favour two island platforms, one face of each dealing with Manchester Victoria station and the other Manchester Piccadilly station.
- Passengers going in to Manchester, needing trains to the other terminus, would just wait on the platform and catch the next train.
- Passengers coming from Manchester, who needed a different distination would change at Salford Crescent to their desired train.
- Comprehensive information would be provided.
The platforms would be built with lots of space, waiting rooms and coffee kiosks and would be well-staffed.
Manchester Victoria Station
Manchester Victoria station is starting look dirty again.
It must be all those elderly diesel trains.
Huddersfield Line
The Huddersfield Line took me to Stalybridge station and then later on to Huddersfield station.
There was no sign of any electrification work.
Stalybridge Station
As a coeliac, I found Stalybridge station one of the most gluten-free-unfriendly stations I have ever found.
In future, if I’m going that way, I’ll make sure that I stock up in Manchester or Leeds first.
TransPennine Express
The train was crowded and getting on at Stalybridge for the short trip to Huddersfield was delayed, as the conductor couldn’t get near to the doors to open them. Whereas the driver could have had a clear view.
It’s about time the NUR stopped this Driver Only Operation farce, which nearly all passengers think is sillier than the Teletubbies.
I hope the idiot, who landed TransPennine routes with the inadequate number of Class 185 trains, now has a job where he can do no harm, like in charge of the railways on the Scilly Isles.
Huddersfield
I don’t know Huddersfield and the only thing I’ve ever bought in the town is a ticket to the football.
You arrive in the Grade I Listed Huddersfield station and walk out into the magnificent St. George’s Square, which should be a welcoming gateway to the town.
Compare it to Kings Cross Square, where there is generally something going on and on a Friday is bustling with food stalls.
I walked to the shops and did find Marks and Spencer in a prominent place, but why wasn’t the route for pedestrians only, as it was crammed with traffic and parked cars.
Huddersfield needs to think how they organise their town centre, as except for the square ut’s about as weloming to visitors as Turkey is to the Dutch.
This Google Map shows the area.
I feel that Huddersfield needs what most European towns of this size would have and that is a tram, that goes through the centre.
You would walk out of the station and in the square would be a tram stop. Trams would go South along a pedestrianised John William Street and New Street. Obviously the route would be designed to go through the town to the main hospital, the University and if possible the the Council Offices, the Courts and the football/rugby stadium.
Incidentally, if you search for Huddersfield Hospital, you don’t find the NHS hospital, but a private one. All major hospitals should have a name like Ipswich, Reading or Crawley Hospital. It should also be galleria for sports venues to constantly change their names.
Huddersfield might wonder, why it doesn’t get the visitors, it thinks it should. It’s because it isn’t visitor friendly.
If I was a businessman wanting to set up a depot, warehouse or whatever in a large town in the North of England, Huddersfield would put me off because of its non-existent and chaotic transport system, built around everybody having a car with a sat-nav.
From Blackburn To Liverpool
I took these pictures as I went from Blackburn to Liverpool by a rather roundabout route mainly using a Lancashire Day Ranger.
These are my notes on the pictures.
The North Wakes Up Slow
I usually wake up about five and listen to the early news and Wake Up To Money on BBC Radio 5.
One of the reasons, I stay in Premier Inns, is that when I’m in one, I don’t have to change my routine.
I often leave home around seven and get my paper from the shop on the corner, which opens at the same time. Even on Sundays!
But in Blackburn and many places in the North, try getting a paper at that time and nothing’s open.
The Morrisons in Blackburn Town Centre didn’t open until 08:30, which is almost the afternoon for me!
Clitheroe Station
I did take one of the first stations to Clitheroe station, which cost me just £2.70 with my Senior Railcard.
Clitheroe is the sort of station, that has a homely atmosphere and serves as the terminal for the Ribble Valley Line, with a ticket office, four-car platforms and an underpass to get across the tracks.
To Southport via Bolton
I took the train back to Bolton station and I just had time to buy a Lancashire Day Ranger in time to get a train to Southport station.
Southport station has a direct entrance to the town’s Marks and Spencer, so it must have the biggest food hall in any UK station.
I took the opportunity to pick up some sandwiches for an early lunch.
Kirkby Station
Kirkby station is like Ormskirk station, where the Merseyrail third-rail electric trains meet Northern’s services from Manchester or Preston.
It is not the best of designs, but Merseyrail are aiming to move the interchange to a new station at Headbolt Lane, which will hopefully have electric trains to Manchester on the Kirkby Branch Line, via Wigan Wallgate and Atherton stations.
Kirkdale Station
Kirkdale station is architecturally unusual, in that everything is on a step-free bridge across the tracks. Liverpool has another similar one in Wavertree Technology Parkstation, but why haven’t we got a standard station like this for lines in cuttings?
St. Luke’s Church
I always visit St. Luke’s Church, if I have time, when I pass through Liverpool.
It was one of C’s favourite places in the City and to me, it sums up Liverpool’s attitude to the troubles that beset us all!
Sadly, it would appear that La Bussola in old Street is no more, as it’s reincarnation as a Starbucks has been turned into a clothes shop.
The places of 1960s Liverpool are disappearing. At least Phred seemed to still be standing tall on the shell of the former Lewis’s Department Store.







































































