Trains Along The South Coast
I had lunch today with an old friend who lives near Bosham station in West Sussex.
They indicated that the train service along the South Coast to Brighton wasn’t the best.
So I thought, I’d have a bit of an explore on Wikipedia.
The route between Ashford International and Weymouth stations can be divided into four sections.
Weymouth To Southampton – The South Western Main Line
The South Western Main Line runs between Weymouth and Southampton Central stations.
- There are twenty stations.
- The operating speed is 100 mph.
- The line is fully electrified.
- The line is double-track, except for between Dorchester South and Moreton stations.
- There would only appear to be one level crossing at Brockenhurst station.
it is a high quality electrified line, where a well-driven train can keep up a good time.
The fastest trains take an hour and twenty minutes between Weymouth and Southampton with nine stops.
Southampton To Brighton – The West Coastway Line
The West Coastway Line runs between Southampton Central and Brighton stations.
- There are thirty-nine stations.
- The operating speed is 75 mph with up to 85 mph in places.
- The line is fully electrified.
- The line is double-track.
- There are twenty level crossings, including at Portslade, Shoreham-by-Sea, Lancing, Worthing, West Worthing, Goring-by-Sea, Angmering, Ford, Chichester(2), Fishbourne, Bosham, Warblington, Bedhampton and Cosham stations.
Following the line on Google Maps, the line could probably have an increased speed limit, but the problem is obvious in the number of level crossings.
Timings on the line are as follows.
- Southampton Central to Brighton takes one hour forty-five minutes.
- Portsmouth to Brighton takes one hour twenty minutes.
- Portsmouth to Southampton takes forty minutes.
These times are for faster journeys without changes.
Brighton To Hastings – The East Coastway Line
The East Coastway Line runs between Brighton and Hastings stations
- There are seventeen stations.
- The operating speed is 90 mph.
- The line is double-track.
- The line is fully electrified.
- There are seven level crossings, including at Berwick, Polegate, Hampden Park, Westham and Pevensey, Pevensey Bay, Normans Bay stations.
Fastest journeys between Brighton and Hastings take an hour.
Hastings To Ashford International – The Marshlink Line
The Marshlink Line runs between Hastings and Ashford International stations.
- There are nine stations.
- The operating speed is 60 mph.
- The line is double-track with sections of single-track.
- The line is not electrified.
- There are several level crossings.
Fastest journeys between Ashford Internsational and Hastings take forty minutes.
The May 2017 Edition of Modern Railways has an article entitled Kent Capacity Constraints Highlighted.
One sub-section is entitled High Speed To Hastings and it lists options as to how high-speed services could be run to Hastings via Ashford International station and the Marshlink Line.
- Electrify Ashford To Hastings At 25 KVAC
- Electrify Ashford To Hastings At 750 VDC
- Use Class 802 Electro-Diesel Trains
- Use Class 395 Or Class 801 Trains With Batteries
I examined the options in full detail in Options For High Speed To Hastings.
Class 313 Trains
When I travel to the area I inevitably find that I’m travelling in a Class 313 train.
- The trains entered service in 1976.
- The trains are the oldest electric multiple units in service on the British mainland.
- The trains are only three cars.
- The trains have no toilets.
- The trains have a maximum speed of 75 mph.
Their biggest problem, is that because the trains have such a poor performance, all routes on which they are likely to run have to be geared to a train running at 75 mph, that is not the quickest at executing a stop at a station.
It should be remembered that the time a train takes to stop at a station, unload and load passengers and then restart and accelerate to linespeed, is a major factor in determining the schedule on a route with a lot of stations.
Train manufacturers and operators have been doing a lot of work to reduce this time and a modern train could be almost a minute or even more quicker than a Class 313 train, at each stop.
Wikipedia says this about the introduction of the Class 313 trains, which replaced more modern and faster Class 377 trains.
The 313s commenced operations with Southern on 23 May 2010, providing a two-trains-per-hour service between Brighton and Seaford, and some trains between Brighton and Lewes, Hove, West Worthing and Littlehampton.[12] From 13 December 2010, their operation expanded to stopping services from Brighton to Portsmouth Harbour and the Littlehampton to Bognor Regis shuttle.
The decision to use 313s on the Coastway lines has been controversial, as they are much older than the 377s and have fewer on-board passenger facilities.
The rail union RMT criticised the move and many publications including the BBC have questioned the introduction of 35-year-old trains with no lavatories in place of much newer units. These trains are deployed on services that operate predominantly over short distances, such as Brighton to Hove and Brighton to Seaford, and some longer (but stopping) services that provide predominantly local links that run alongside 377s on faster services.
The introduction of 313s on the Coastway routes facilitated the delivery of additional capacity on high-demand suburban routes in South London, where 10-car trains services are to be introduced combined with platform lengthening.
This report on the BBC gives more details.
The Major Problems Along The South Coast
Summarising the previous sections, the major problems on the route can be summarised.
- The Class 313 trains with their poor performance are not fit for purpose.
- The numerous level crossings significantly reduce the operating speed of the route.
- The lack of electrification on the Marshlink Line is a serious obstacle to better London-Hsstings services via HS1.
I would also question, if there is sufficient capacity along the line, especially as there are now three Premier League clubs along its route.
In the following section, I shall detail what is proposed and a few extra actions, that I feel should be taken.
Improve The Marshlink Line
The May 2017 Edition of Modern Railways has an article entitled Kent Capacity Constraints Highlighted.
One sub-section is entitled High Speed To Hastings and it lists options as to how Southeastern High-Speed services could be run to Hastings via Ashford International station and the Marshlink Line.
- Electrify Ashford To Hastings At 25 KVAC
- Electrify Ashford To Hastings At 750 VDC
- Use Class 802 electro-diesel trains
- Use Class 395 Or Class 801 trains With Batteries.
As to which option is chosen, Modern Railways says this.
The option to use a ‘hybrid’ electric/self-powered (diesel or battery) train is suggested as being a ‘more cost-effective way forward’, with linespeed improvements then delivered in an incremental way.
I examined the options in full detail in Options For High Speed To Hastings.
If the improvement was comprehensive, it would give the following advantages.
- High-Speed services from St. Pancras to Hastings.
- Journeys from Ashford International to Portsmouth, Southampton, Bournemouth and Weymouth would be all electric and if desired could be without a change of train.
- Better connectivity along the South Coast to Continental services at Ashford International station.
- A secondary route from London to Brighton in case of closure of the Brighton Main Line.
If an off-the-shelf solution like Class 802 trains were to be used, the improvements could be delivered in a timely manner.
Remove As Many Level Crossings As Possible
Removal of level crossings is a sensitive issue, but from Southampton to Ashford International, they are a serious limit on the operating speed of the trains.
But it is not just the trains that suffer, but road traffic as well.
Consider Hampden Park station, where Wikipedia says this about the level crossing.
The level crossing at Hampden Park is thought to be one of the busiest in the country, with an average fourteen train movements an hour off-peak, and this can lead to significant traffic congestion on adjacent roads.
As some services actually cross it twice to call at Eastbourne station, this level crossing certainly needs to be eliminated.
Improved Stations
Several of the stations have been upgraded, but I believe that step-free access and longer platforms are needed at quite a few stations.
Brighton and Hove Albion are now one of three Premier League football teams along the South Coast and Falmer station needs to be improved, so that higher-capacity trains can serve the ground on match days.
The Plans Of South Western Railway
The May 2017 Edition of Modern Railways also gives details of the plans of the new South Western Railway franchise from December 2018.
This is said.
A direct service will link Portsmouth, Southampton and Weymouth, while there will be a second hourly semi-fast service between Portsmouth and Southampton offering a total of 29 additional services between the cities on Mondays to Saturdays.
Wikipedia also says that there will be another thirty five Monday to Saturday services between London and Portsmouth, with more on Sundays.
Services Between London And Portsmouth
Currently, on a typical day there are sixty-nine down services and seventy-one up services. So as thirty-five extra services are going to be provided, then that means there will be a twenty-five percent increase in services between London and Portsmouth.
So would this mean that London to Portsmouth has a frequency of five trains per hour (tph), as against three tph for Southampton?
As South Western Railway will be introducing additional Portsmouth to Weymouth services, will this mean that there will be two fast routes to London from Weymouth?
- A direct train.
- One with a change at Havant on to Portsmouth Direct Line services.
South Western Railway have certainly thought long and hard.
The Class 313 Trains Will Go To The Scrapyard
With all the fast 100 mph trains rushing between Ashford International and Brighton and Portsmouth and Weymouth, the Class 313 trains will be worse than inadequate and the best place for them will be the scrapyard.
I just wonder though if South Western Railway’s unwanted but new Class 707 trains could replace the Class 313 trains along parts of the South Coast.
- They are 100 mph trains, probably with a good stopping performance, which could save a minute at every stop.
- They are five-car units.
- They have toilets.
As an illustration of the difference the new trains could make, the current Portsmouth to Brighton service takes around one hour twenty minutes with twenty stops.
A rough estimate indicates that Portsmouth to Brighton could be under an hour with new 100 mph trains.
The only problems would be that they couldn’t work a Marshlink Line without electrification and services along the South Coast are provided by three different companies.
Conclusion
A lot of improvement is possible in services along the South Coast.
Adjusting current timings for new trains with a better stopping performance could give the following sectional timings.
- Ashford International to Hastings – 35 minutes
- Hastings to Brighton – 60 minutes
- Brighton to Portsmouth – 60 minutes
- Portsmouth to Southampton – 35 minutes
I believe that an Ashford International to Southampton time of three hours is possible.
This is a similar time as going via London and using HS1.
Options For High Speed To Hastings
The May 2017 Edition of Modern Railways has an article entitled Kent Capacity Constraints Highlighted.
One sub-section is entitled High Speed To Hastings and it lists options as to how high-speed services could be run to Hastings via Ashford International station and the Marshlink Line.
Before I list the options, I’ll list a few facts and questions about the current service to Hastings, the various lines and stations.
Ashford International Station
This Google Map shows Ashford International station.
Note the Marshlink Line goes off the map to the East of the two small roundabouts at the bottom.
The biggest factor that needs to be considered is that some form flyover or dive-under may be needed so that trains can run between the Marshlink Line and the two platforms on the North side of the station, where Highspeed services to and from St. Pancras International call.
Will All Highspeed Services Using The Marshlink Line Stop At Ashford International Station?
Consider the following.
- Passengers might like to go between places on the South Coast, like Hastings and Brighton, and Europe, by changing at Ashford International station
- If a voltage change were needed, Ashford International station is already used for this purpose.
I would think it unlikely that services would not stop at Ashford International station.
Class 395 and Class 80x Trains
The Class 395 trains and the various forms of Class 800 trains are all members of Hitachi’s A-Train family.
The Class 395 trains have the following features.
- Dual voltage
- 6-car sets.
- 140 mph on HS1
- 100 mph on DC Lines
- Automatic coupling and uncoupling.
The Class 800 and Class 802 trains have the following features.
- Electro-diesel
- 25 KVAC only.
- 5- and 9-car sets.
- 140 mph on HS1 (Stated in Modern Railways)
- 100 mph on diesel power only.
- Automatic coupling and uncoupling (assumed)
The only difference between Class 800 and Class 802 appears to be the size of the full tanks and manufacturing site.
I would think it unlikely, that Hitachi could not produce a Class 80x train with the following features.
- Electro-diesel
- Dual voltage
- 6-car sets
- 140 mph on HS1
- 100 mph on diesel power only.
- 100 mph on DC Lines
The trains could even have a Class 395 style interior.
Looking at the Class 395 and Class 80x trains, I suspect that these trains could be built, so that they could automatically couple and uncouple with each other.
This coupling ability would be important.
- Hastings and Thanet services could couple and uncouple at Ashford International.
- Class 80x trains could be used instead of Class 395 trains for operational reasons.
- It would make it easier to rescue a stalled train.
There is also this document on the IEP Trains web site, which is entitled Technical & Build Specifications Of The IEP Trains, contains a lot of useful information.
- Five-car electro-diesel trains have three power units.
- Nine-car electro-diesel trains have five power units.
- Electric trains have a small generator that can be used to slowly move a train stranded by overhead power failure to a safe place for passengers to disembark.
Nothing is said about batteries, but Hitachi have run battery trains in Japan.
I would be very surprised, if the A-train family was not designed, so that it could incorporate batteries, when the technology has been sufficiently developed
The Current London To Hastings Timings
Fastest timings I can find are as follows.
- London Cannon Street to Hastings – 1 hour 48 minutes
- London Charing Cross to Hastings – 1 hour 51 minutes
- London St. Pancras to Hastings – 1 hour 36 minutes, which a change at Ashford International
- London Victoria – 2 hours 1 minute.
I think the surprising time is the one with a change at Ashford International.
It takes 37 minutes between St. Pancras and Ashford International and 40 minutes from Ashford International to Hastings, but passengers are allowed nineteen minutes to change trains.
Could Timings On The Marshlink Line Be Improved?
The Marshlink Line has a maximum operating speed of just 60 mph, whereas the East Coastway Line between Hastings and Brighton has an oiperating speed of 90 mph.
Other improvements are needed to improve the timings and oiperation of the line.
- Removal of a couple of level crossings.
- Provision of a passing loop at Rye.
- Some platform lengthening to handle the longest trains that would use the line.
It doesn’t appear impossible to reduce St. Pancras to Hasting timings by several minutes.
Are More Class 395 Trains Needed For Other Routes?
I ask this question, as if they are, then surely a combined order for new trains would be better value.
The Various Options
I shall now look at the various options mentioned in the article in turn.
Option 1 – Electrify Ashford To Hastings At 25 KVAC
This would cost between £250million and £500million.
It would allow the current Class 395 trains to work through to Hastings and as far as Brighton or even Southampton if required.
Voltage changeover would take place at a convenient station, such as Ore.
But how would various groups react to 25 KVAC catenary being strung up all over Romney Marsh?
Option 2 – Electrify Ashford To Hastings At 750 VDC
This would cost between £100million and £250million.
As with Option 1, it could use the current Class 395 trains.
Option 3 – Use Class 802 Electro-Diesel Trains
Class 802 trains could be an interesting option.
Consider.
- According to the Modern Railways article, Class 802 trains would have the same 140 mph performance, as the Class 395 trains on HS1.
- Both trains are Hitachi A trains.
- Class 802 trains would run on diesel between Ashford International and Hastings.
- Class 802 trains would probably be fitted with third-rail equipment to work onward from Hastings.
- No electrification of the Marshlink Line would be required.
- St. Pancras to Hastings could be under seventy minutes.
- Three trains would be needed to provide an hourly service to Hastings.
- A crude estimate gives that one six-car Class 802 train would cost around £12.5million.
I think this option has a big advantage in that if it were possible to run twelve-car trains from St. Pancras to Brighton via Eastbourne, Hastings, Ebbsfleet International and Stratford International stations, the route might offer valuable alternative routes.
Option 4 – Use Class 395 Or Class 801 Trains With Batteries
Either of Class 395 or Class 801 trains could probably be fitted with batteries with sufficient range to take the train between Ashford and Hastings.
Consider.
- Both trains would have 140 mph performance on HS1.
- Trains would run on batteries between Ashford International and Ore.
- The Marshlink Line is not the most taxing of railways, with only six stops.
- Trains would probably be fitted with third-rail equipment to work onward from Hastings.
- No electrification of the Marshlink Line would be required.
- St. Pancras to Hastings could be under seventy minutes.
- To ensure sufficient battery power to bridge Hastings to Ashford, trains could if necessary reverse at Seaford or Brighton.
As with Option 3, it has the advantage of providing an alternative London to Brighton service.
Conclusions
All options require the following to be done.
- Create an efficient connection between HS1 and the Marshlink Line.
- Improve the operating speed on the Marshlink Line.
- Remove a couple of level crossings on the Marshlink Line.
- Create a passing loop at Rye.
- Perform some platform lengthening.
As Options 1 and 2 require electrification and cost more, I would feel they are unlikely to proceed.
The choice between Options 3 and 4 would depend on what Hitachi offer and what the required number of trains cost.
Option 3 based on a Class 802 train would definitely work and could probably be proven with a test run of one of the GWR or VTEC Class 800 prototypes.
But these Class 800/801/802 trains are designed so that the diesel engines can be removed, when they are no longer needed. So could Hitachi replace the diesel engine with a battery pack charged at either end of the route on the 25 KVAC of HS1 or the 750 VDC of the East Coastway Line between Hastings and Brighton.
It’s all about selling trains and a company that had a 140 mph or 225 kph high-speed electric train, that could do perhaps 25 miles or 40 kilometres on batteries, would have a valuable addition to their product range.
Will Southern Fit On-board Energy Storage To Class 377 Trains?
When I wrote Will London Overground Fit On-board Energy Storage To Class 378 Trains? in March, I didn’t look very hard at Southern’s collection of over two hundred Class 377 trains, of which forty-six are dual-voltage units.
I then read this article on the Railway Technical web site, which is entitled Southern’s 377/6 takes shape in Litchurch Lane. This is said in the article.
Regenerative braking capability was provided on the trains from the beginning but it was not used.
Things have improved in the last few years and some parts of the network can accept returned power, but the article adds this caveat.
If the train detects that the line is unable to take the extra voltage, the regenerated power is dumped into an on-board resistor grid.
So it would appear that the Class 377 trains could benefit from the addition of on-board energy storage.
How much of the electricity bill it would save, is I suspect known to the accountants and it should be a fairly simple analysis to see if on-board energy storage were to be fitted all or some of Class 377 trains.
But converting a small number of trains, would give Southern a train capable of replacing the Class 171 trains on London Bridge to Uckfield and the Marshlink Line.
Class 377 trains with an IPEMU capability on these routes might give operational benefits.
- London to East Grinstead is already run by Class 377 trains. So the same trains could be used on both branches, which must be a benefit for the operator, in terms of driver and staff training.
- Class 377 trains already run to the end of the electrification at Ore from Brighton, Eastbourne and Cannon Street, so it might be advantageous for both operator and passengers to continue some or all of these services to Ashford.
- Rye and the other stations on the Marshlink Line would get a direct electric service to London.
The only problem is that Hastings wouldn’t get a high-speed service to St. Pancras.
How Long Would An IPEMU Take From St. Leonard’s To St. Pancras International?
If an IPEMU is going to be used between St. Leonard’s and St. Pancras International station, there are two possibilities.
- A 110 mph IPEMU based on existing Class 387 trains.
- A 125 mph IPEMU based on a purpose-built Aventra. Ian Walmsley stated in the April 2016 Edition of Modern Railways that a 125 mph Aventra is possible.
This compares with the 143 mph and 100 mph speeds of a Class 395 train on high speed and classic lines respectively.
For this estimate, I will make the following assumptions.
- St. Leonards takes four minutes longer than Hastings.
- The baseline time from St. Pancras to Ashford is 38 minutes in a Class 395 train.
- Times on the high speed section are in proportion to the train speed.
- The baseline time from St. Leonard’s to Ashford is 46 minutes in a Class 171 train.
- All trains on the unelectrified section are limited to 100 mph.
Times From St.Leonards to Ashford
The Class 171 train takes 46 minutes, but it is only a benchmark, as few would go to Ashford and then get on a Class 395 train on High Speed 1.
The Class 395 train and the IPEMUs would be quicker as they would save a couple of minutes at each of the typical five stops, because of their faster acceleration.
Two minutes a stop would save ten minutes.
Times From Ashford to St. Pancras
Doing a simple calculation based on train speed gives the following times.
- Class 395 train – 38 minutes
- Class 387 IPEMU – 48 minutes
- Aventra IPEMU – 43 minutes.
Times from St. Leonards to St. Pancras
Adding the two times together gives.
- Class 395 train – 74 minutes
- Class 387 IPEMU – 84 minutes
- Aventra IPEMU – 79 minutes.
With Hastings it will be four minutes less.
In Wikipedia, there is a section called Future for the entry for the Marshlink Line. This is said.
The line is strategically important, as electrification and junction improvements would mean that High Speed 1 trains could travel directly from St Pancras International to Hastings. Amber Rudd, Member of Parliament for Hastings, has campaigned for electrification works to start by 2017. The aim is to reduce times to London from Hastings to 68 minutes, and from Rye to under an hour. This would require remodelling Ashford International station so the existing Marshlink line could connect to HS1, installing power systems, and adding a passing loop at Rye, all in addition to requiring new trains.
I think that the aim of 68 minutes from London to Hastings is a modest one, but as my crude estimate was only six minutes longer, I think the 68 minutes is totally attainable, especially as my times from St. Leonards to Ashford are just based on current timings and taking off a couple of minutes for each stop.
But if the Marshlink Line could be significantly improved, then time reductions of several minutes could well be achieved.
Along The Marshlink Line
After writing Will We See IPEMUS in Hastings?, I thought it would be a good idea to see, if there were any other reasons, why running longer IPEMUs on the Marshlink Line would be a good idea.
So I took a Class 395 train from St. Pancras International station to Ashford International station along High Speed One.
From Ashford International, I took the Marshlink Link to Hastings station, in one of the services run by Southern using Class 171 trains.
These are my observations from the trip.
Class 171 Trains
These are two-car modern diesel multiple units with a top speed of 160 kph and they can be coupled together to make longer trains.
They are totally adequate for the current service between Ashford International and Brighton via Hastings, Bexhill, Eastbourne and Lewes.
Class 387 Trains With An IPEMU Capability
I believe that if battery trains or IPEMUs are used to provide an electric service on the Marshlink Line, that only Class 387 trains can be delivered in a reasonable timescale.
- The Class 387 train is a cousin of the Class 379 train, which was used to create the demonstrator.
- The Class 387 train is a four-car 175 kph train, that can be run in 4, 8 or 12 car formations.
- The capability of the train on battery power, would be more than adequate to go between Ashford International and Hastings.
- There are over twenty Class 387 trains in service, that will start to be replaced this year with new Class 700 trains.
- Another twenty trains are on order for Porterbrook.
- Because of the late delivery of the Great Western electrification, quite a few trains have no home to go to.
- Southern are very familiar with Class 387 trains.
The main thing that would need to be done, would be to add an appropriate battery pack to the number of trains needed for a Brighton to Ashford or St. Pancras service.
As a battery pack was designed over a year ago, I’m sure Bombardier have this under control.
This article in Rail Technology Magazine, talks about how Bombardier are doing extensive tests on battery systems in Mannheim.
Ashford International Station
This Google Map shows the various lines through Ashford International station.
Note.
- High Speed One goes through the station calling at the long island platforms 3 and 4, or on the flyover, as appropriate.
- The Ashford to Ramsgate Line goes off to the North East.
- The Marshlink Line goes south alongside the white teardrop, which is the Ashford Designer Outlet.
There are three alternatives for Marshlink Line trains.
- Currently, trains from the Marshlink Line terminate in Platform 1. This could continue.
- Trains could go to and from London on High Speed 1
- Trains could go to and from London on classic lines.
I suppose there could be a mixture of all three.
I don’t know if it is possible to run trains between High Speed One and the Marshlink Line, but I can’t believe that it would be impossible to arrange, as Network Rail have mentioned Hastings to St. Pancras services via High Speed One in some of their reports.
Ham Street Station
Ham Street station is a simple affair on a double-track section, with two staggered platforms.
I took these pictures of the station.
This is a Google Map of the station.
it would appear that quite a few houses have been built recently.
The station doesn’t appear to be of the same quality as the houses.
Appledore Station
This Google Map shows the Appledore station.
It is simple affair, with very few houses locally.
- Appledore itself is two miles away.
- It has two staggered platforms.
- There is a level crossing.
- There is no footbridge.
South of the station the line becomes single-track and the Dungeness Branch goes off to Dungeness and Lydd.
Dungeness
A proportion of the freight traffic on the Marshlink Line serves the Dungeness Nuclear Power Station using the Dungeness Branch.
The Google Map shows the area of Dungeness.
At one time, the line had several stations including one at Dungeness.
Other than the power station, there is just a few houses, Lydd Airport, a nature reserve and a few tourist attractions like the iconic Romney Hythe and Dymchurch Railway.
The only other things that could effect the area, is a possible building of Dungeness C Nuclear Power Station and other energy related developments, like a cross-Channel energy link or support for wind turbines.
So to say that the Dungeness Branch will never be developed with a passenger train service, is a bit like saying human beings will never set foot on Mars.
I’ve never been down to Dungeness, although C flew to Beauvais near Paris in the 1960s from the Airport using an airline called Skyways (?).
Rye Station
Rye station is the only substantial station on the unelectrified part of the Marshlink Line.
This Google Map shows the station.
I visited Rye in 2015 and wrote Lunch At Rye, where I found it a charming little town, lacking in information.
The station has a passing loop, a footbridge and a booking office, and it probably would need little work for longer trains.
However, there was evidence of general tidying up and the relaying of track.
In fact, this was virtually the only work, that I saw anywhere on the Marshlink Line.
Winchelsea, Doleham And Three Oaks Stations.
Of these three stations, we only stopped at Winchelsea station.
Except for well-maintained single platform, there is not much there.
Doleham and Three Oaks stations are also fairly basic, with Three Oaks only able to handle a single carriage.
From Ore To Hastings
Ore station is the next station after Three Oaks and it is fully electrified from the station all the way to Eastbourne and Brighton.
An Article In Rye News
This article in Rye News is entitled More give than take on Marshlink, was written by Stuart Harland who is chairman of the Marsh Link Action Group.
It gives a summary of the work needed to allow Class 395 trains to Bexhill.
As we know from the Network Rail presentation to MLAG last year, the physical issues to be resolved are:
- electrification of the Marshlink line
- signalling at Bexhill;
- remodelling of the track layout at Ashford;
- the dualling/ passing loop at Rye
- the two level crossings at East Guldeford where input is awaited from the Highways Agency to remove the need for two level crossings on the A259
All of this needs funding, as do the additional Javelin units built by Hitachi.
So how does using Class 387 trains with an IPEMU capability affect this list.
- Electrification of the Marshlink Line would not be needed.
- The signalling at Bexhill, can already handle eight-car Electrostars, like the Class 387 train, so I would assume modifications would be simpler, if at all.
- The remodelling of the track layout at Ashford would only need to connect Platforms 1 and 2 to High Speed One.
- The passing loop at Rye seems capable of accepting two four-car Class 171 Turbostar trains, which are closely related to Class 387 Electrostar trains.
- The level crossing problems would remain, but the speeds could be kept to those used now.
- New trains would not need to be purchased from Hitachi.
In addition, there would need to be work done to make sure that all stations and signalling on the Marshlink Line could accept the length of train, that Southern want to run between |St. Pancras and Hastings.
Conclusion
Class 387 IPEMUs could easily provide service on the Marshlink Line and the cost of the work would be very much reduced compared to using Class 395 Javelin trains, with the biggest expense probably being adding the battery packs to the Class 387 trains.
Will We See IPEMUs In Hastings?
I have just been pointed to this article in the Hastings Observer, which is entitled Hybrid trains alternative to electrifying 1066 country railway. This is said.
Battery-powered high-speed trains were proclaimed as the way to decrease rail journey times in 1066 country at a transport summit today (Friday, March 18).
Hybrid Javelin trains would eliminate the need to electrify the Marshlink but still reduce the time it takes to get to London, according to transport representatives at Sussex Coast College.
Network Rail’s senior strategic planner in the south east Paul Best explained how they are proposing an ‘incremental approach’ to electrifying the railway between Ashford and Bexhill.
He said they can increase speed limits in certain places but also look into using hybrid trains with a battery so they can be used on the normal track and electric line from St Pancras to Ashford, which would reduce journey times
So let’s look at this statement in detail. Note that I use Independently-Powered Electric Multiple Unit or IPEMU instead of battery trains.
I think it will be unlikely, that if this comes to pass, that the trains will be Class 395 trains, colloquially known as Javelins.
- I don’t think Hitachi could deliver their made-in-Japan product for some time due to busy production schedules.
- Hitachi have not disclosed any plans for a battery variant of a Class 395 train.
- Paul Best of Network Rail isn’t reported as mentioning Javelins.
Hitachi may be able to deliver such a train in the future and I may be wrong about their capabilities.
I think if we see Paul Best’s hybrid trains working between St. Pancras and 1066 country, then there is only one proven train; an IPEMU or battery-powered version of the Class 387 train.
- Soon, there could be several of the trains sitting in sidings or being built at Bombardier’s factory in Derby.
- All or most of the Class 387 trains are owned by Porterbrook. Leasing companies are not charities and like their assets to sweat.
- Bombardier and Network Rail demonstrated the IPEMU technology in public service over twelve months ago.
- Class 387/2 trains destined for Gatwick Express have been extensively tested on the West Coast Main Line. Has their 200 kph capability been explored?
- Southern, who have lots of experience of running Class 387 trains, are responsible for the services between Hastings and Ashford International.
- Adding the required signalling and certifying the Class 387 trains for HS1, shouldn’t be a difficult problem.
- Jumping the electrification gap of the Marshlink Line, is well within the capability of a Class 387 train with an IPEMU capability.
The only problem I can see, is that they are only a 110 mph train as opposed to the 140 mph of the Class 395 train, when that train runs on HS1. So would this cause route planning problems? But then the line can accommodate slower freight trains.
But I did say the following in Will Southern Create A South Coast Express Using IPEMUs?, about an electrified service on the Marshlink Line.
Using IPEMU trains would simplify the job and mean no electrification would be needed.
It would appear that Network Rail are thinking along similar lines.
The High Speed Battery Train
Are Bombardier creating a genuine high speed train with a 200 kph capability and the ability to run for at least fifty miles on battery power.
- Bombardier certainly have the experience to build a 200 kph train for the UK, in that both Class 221 trains and Class 222 trains were built by Bombardier.
- If they had to settle for the 175 kph of the current Class 387 train, that wouldn’t be too serious a problem. Especially, if they could squeeze the extra 25 kph in a few years, with an upgrade.
- Class 387 trains have been running on Thameslink since December 2014.
- A lot of technology like LED lights, regenerative braking, efficient air-conditioning and automatic train control systems are available to make trains use less electricity.
- The battery technology has been reported as going through extensive testing in Mannheim.
Without doubt Bombardier can produce a 175 kph (110 mph) train based on the Class 387 train and they could be able to stretch that to a 200 kph (125 mph) one!
That would be some train!
The IPEMU Market
If they can produce a high speed train with an onboard energy storage, it is not a speculative product without a market.
In addition to the Marshlink Line, all of these lines have a proportion of running at around 160 kph or over and then an extension, that is not electrified.
- Liverpool Street to Lowestoft – This route is in the new Greater Anglia franchise.
- Liverpool Street to Yarmouth via Cambridge, Ely and Norwich.
- Liverpool Street to Peterborough via Cambridge.
- Ipswich to Cambridge, Ely and Peterborough.
- Kings Cross to Grimsby, Hull and Lincoln.
- Kings Cross to Hartlepool, Middlesbrough and Sunderland.
- Liverpool to Newcastle and Edinburgh via Manchester, Huddersfield and Leeds.
- Liverpool to Hull via Warrington, Manchester, Sheffield and Doncaster.
- Blackpool to Leeds via Preston and the Calder Valley Line.
- St. Pancras to Corby and Leicester
- Euston to Barrow, Blackpool, Chester, Huddersfield and Shrewsbury
- Paddington to Bedwyn, Henley, Marlowe, Newbury, Oxford and Windsor
In addition, there are some routes , which could be served, with some short stretches of electrification or a means of charging the train at the terminus.
- Waterloo to Exeter via Salisbury.
- York to Scarborough
- Edinburgh to Tweedbank
- Settle to Carlisle
- Carlisle to Newcastle.
And then there’s all the branch lines!
Conclusion
Could we be witnessing a rail revolution powered by batteries?
I certainly think we are and have thought so for some time.
Who’ve have thought that Network Rail would spill the beans in Hastings about a rather charming line across the Romney Marsh?
Will Southern Create A South Coast Express Using IPEMUs?
This post is pure speculation on my part,which I’ve written to illustrate the capabilities of an IPEMU.
What is an IPEMU?
Many rail passengers in the UK, have ridden in one of Bombardier’s fairly ubiquitous Electrostar trains. Here’s a short list of some of the types and the services they run.
- Class 357 trains run services out of Fenchurch Street for c2c.
- Class 375, Class 376 and Class 377 trains running commuter services to the South of London.
- Class 378 trains running on the London Overground.
- Class 379 trains running from Liverpool Street to Stansted Airport and Cambridge.
- Class 387 trains currently running on Thameslink, but perhaps soon on a line near you.
A Class 379 was used to create the IPEMU or Independently Powered Electric Multiple Unit and a year ago, I rode this train in public service between Manningtree and Harwich.
A battery pack had been added to the four-car train, which was charged up, when the train is running on an electrified line; third rail or overhead and the energy can then be used to propel the train on a line without electrification.
I was told by the engineer sitting opposite me,monitoring train performance on a laptop, that this Class 379 IPEMU had the following characteristics.
- A range of upwards of sixty miles on battery power.
- Similar performance on battery or direct power.
- Virtually identical driving experience.
I would also add that the passenger experience was virtually identical.
Network Rail and Bombardier have put a lot of time, effort and money into the IPEMU. They believe, that IPEMUs and their battery power will have the following applications.
- Providing affordable electric services on branch lines or other lines that are difficult to electrify.
- Moving trains around in depots and sidings that have not been electrified.
- Train recovery and diversion, when the power fails.
- Used in conjunction with regenerative braking, IPEMU technology saves electricity.
Obviously, Bombardier very much believe in the technology, as their new train; the Aventra has been designed to use energy storage.
IPEMU is an acronym, that will increasingly be used with trains.
The Class 387 Train
Southern, who operate a lot of services south of London are users of Class 387 trains.
- 29 x Class 387/1 trains running on Thameslink
- 27 x Class 387/2 trains ordered for Gatwick Express.
The Class 387/1 trains will be replaced by Class 700 trains, as they arrive from Germany.
Unfortunately, due to the well-documented problems of Network Rail’s electrification, it looks like a lot of these twenty-nine trains could be put into storage.
I believe that some of these trains will be given an IPEMU capability to be used to provide electric train services on certain lines.
As they are closely related to the Class 379 train used for the prototype, I feel that most of the technical problems have been solved.
Along The South Coast From Southampton to Ashford
The South Coast from Southampton to Ashford is covered by two separate rail routes.
- The East Coastway Line that runs between Brighton and Ashford International stations is only partially electrified and uses two-car diesel Class 171 trains.
- The West Coastway Line that runs between Brighton and Southampton Central stations is fully electrified and uses elderly three-car Class 313 trains, which have a top speed of 75 mph.
If you want to travel between say Hastings and Worthing, you will have to change trains at Brighton.
This usually means a wait of a few minutes and a change of platform.
Any sane person would believe that if a single train could run all the way from Southampton to Ashford, this would be better for many reasons.
- The train company would probably need less trains.
- Passengers wouldn’t have to change trains at Brighton.
- There could probably be a simpler interchange between Coastway and Brighton Main Line services at Brighton station, which might release platform space.
- Both Coastway routes are limited to speeds below 80 mph and are fairly straight, so perhaps with some improvements, faster services could be introduced.
Until recently, the only trains capable of going from Ashford to Southampton would have been diesel multiple units, but as the only part of the route that is not electrified is the Marshlink Line from Ore to Ashford, it would now be possible to run the service using an IPEMU variant of a Class 387 train. The train would charge its on-board batteries between Southampton and Ore and at Ashford and then use battery power to bridge the gap of about thirty miles on the Marshlink Line.
As IPEMUs have a range of sixty miles, then it would seem that there should be few problems in running the trains between Ashford and Ore.
This approach has benefits.
- The Class 387 train is an 110 mph electric train with regenerative braking, so services could be faster.
- GTR has quite a few of the standard Class 387 trains in service, so the company and their drivers probably know them well.
- GTR could say they have removed a number of diesel trains and they are a greener company.
- Network Rail would only have to update the track and signalling of the Marshlink Line for four-car trains and wouldn’t need to electrify any of the route.
Currently, to go from Ashford to Southampton takes three hours forty-five minutes and it is quicker to go via St. Pancras and Waterloo. But with a 110 mph train and no changes, timings must be possible in the region of three hours.
I suspect that with some selected track improvements, a limited-stop service could be a real South Coast Express.
There certainly is some scope and I’ll detail each improvements on the main East and West Coastways separately,
The Marshlink Line
The Marshlink Line is not fully double-tracked, has several level crossings and a low speed limit, which if improved, would probably be welcomed.
The Marshlink Line Action Group web site has an extensive report about improving the line, of which this is an extract, from a report which discusses extending the Class 395 train service from Ashford to Hastings.
The basics of the project are substantially as presented last year with line speeds generally expected to be 60-90 mph from Ashford to Doleham and 40-60 mph onwards to Hastings. But the ongoing big question for NR (and of concern to MLAG from an environmental point of view and compatibility with rolling stock in the surrounding lines) is whether the power source would be third rail (as MLAG would prefer) or overhead. NR acknowledges the difficulty of overhead power along the Marsh with gantries having to be built on (obviously) marsh land and with the strong winds. Whichever, some 30 miles of track would need to be laid but, apparently, only about half a mile of dualled track to the west of Rye.
Incidentally, there has been talk about running Class 395 trains from St. Pancras to Eastbourne via HS1 to Ashford and the Marshlink Line. It would undoubtedly be a fast service, but it has some inherent disadvatages.
- The Marshlink Line would need to be electrified, probably with 25KVAC overhead wires.
- Some people might object to the wires across the marshes?
- Would it need some extra Class 395 trains to be purchased?
- Would it mean that one franchise was encroaching on the territory of another?
On the other hand, using IPEMU trains would simplify the job and mean no electrification would be needed.
However, it would probably be a good idea to make sure that as much dualled track was created, to maintain an efficient service on the line in the future.
The Willingdon Chord And Eastbourne
There has been talk about reinstating the Willingdon Chord, which could shorten the line by making it possible for trains to by-pass Eastbourne, But the locals fear, that Eastbourne would lose services.
However, surely some fast long-distance services along the South Coast could by-pass the town.
A skilled compiler of timetables could probable devise one for Eastbourne, that gave the town, faster and better services to Brighton, Southampton and London.
Lewes And The Wealden Line
It is an aspiration of many to reinstate the Wealden Line, as a new route to London to take pressure off the Brighton Main Line.
In Musical Trains In Sussex, I gave my reasons for believing that the Uckfield Branch could be run using Class 387 IPEMUs.
I also believe that if the Wealden Line is reinsatated that it will use the same type of train.
Obviously, Network Rail and Southern, will make sure that the Wealden Line project doesn’t conflict with a desire to run fast trains along the South Coast.
Hove Station
Hove station is a busy one with up to eight services an hour passing through in both directions, to and from Victoria and Gatwick Airport as well as Brighton.
There were aspirations that in the future to add the London Bridge to Littlehampton via Hove service to Thameslink. The service would use the Cliftonville Curve to access the Brighton Main Line, as it does now.
This would give all stations on the West Coastway Line between Hove and Littlehampton, two trains per hour through to London Bridge and beyond
Except for the Future Developments section in the Wikipedia entry for Hove station, I can’t find any more about this proposal.
The Arundel Chord
One piece of infrastructural that gets mentioned is a chord at Arundel that would connect the West Coastway Line to the Arun Valley Line between Angmering and Ford stations.
If it were to be built, it would create another route between Brighton and Three Bridges using the eastern part of the West Coastway and the Arun Valley Line.
Westward From Littlehampton
My only experience of the western end of the West Coastway line, was missing a train and having to wait an hour on a freezing and deserted Bosham station for the next train.
The service could probably benefit from a rethink.
Brighton
Brighton is the major interchange between the two Coastway services and the Brighton Main Line with its Gatwick Express, Victoria and Thameslink services.
Brighton station certainly needs improvement to cope with the large increase in capacity to the city, that Thameslink and its new Class 700 trains will bring.
Each twelve-car Class 700 train, will have a capacity approaching 1,800 passengers and there will be four of these trains to and from Central London and beyond every hour.
Obviously, the trains won’t be full at Brightpon and not all passengers will be walking to and from the station, so there needs to be better connections to buses and the two Coastway Lines.
At present, it takes a few minutes and a platform change to pass through Brighton if you’re going between services at the station.
- Brighton Main Line, Gatwick Express and Thameslink services.
- East Coastway services
- West Coastway services.
- Great Western Railway services to the West.
The platform layout at Brighton doesn’t look as if it was designed to make train services for passengers and train companies efficient.
So surely, if Coastway services could be linked, so that they came into the station, set down and picked up passengers before going out in the other direction, this would be a more efficient way to organise trains at the station.
It would also make the interchange between Coastway and Brighton Main Line services easier and hopefully, just a walk across a platform.
A reorganised Brighton could probably contribute several minutes to the savings in journey times along the Coastway.
This Google Map shows Brighton station and the two Coastway Lines coming into the station.
I don’t think it would be an affordable or even a sensible solution, to combine the two Coastways together north of Brighton station.
The Wivelsfield Alternative
But Network Rail have come up with an alternative solution, so that the two Coastways can be connected together.
Just sixteen kilometres north of Brighton is Wivelsfield station. It is possible to access the East Coastway Line just south of the station at Keymer Junction, which unfortunately is not grade-separated and probably needs to be to improve Eastbourne services from Victoria.
Wikipedia has a section on the future of Wivelsfield station, which says this.
In Autumn 2015 Network Rail released the Sussex Area Route Study, where two options for the proposed grade separation of Keymer Junction are detailed, both of which would transform the station dramatically. Option 1 is the minimal option and creates a new platform 0 on the west side of the station served by a 3rd track from the new flyover line from Lewes. Option 2 is much more ambitious and builds on option 1 by adding an additional 4th platform on the east side of the station as well, served by a 4th track on the line to Lewes. Whilst this would enable each line to the south to have a dedicated platform the primary benefit would be that the existing platforms could be used to turn back trains in either direction as needed without blocking the main lines.
As services can access the West Coastway Line through the Cliftonville Tunnel to Hove, which is a couple of miles north of Brighton station, it would appear that the two Coastways could be connected, with a reverse at Wivelsfield.
The route would be.
- Lewes
- Cooksbridge
- Plumpton
- Wivelsfield
- Burgess Hill
- Preston Park
- Hove
This is not a complete solution, as there would have to be a way to get to Brighton station, by probably changing at Lewes, Wivelsfield or Hove.
A Brighton Metro
In a trip to Brighton, I travelled to Seaford using the East Coastway and the Seaford Branch. Even on a Sunday morning in February, the three-car Class 313 train was pretty full, especially around the University of Sussex at Falmer station.
So could the half-hourly Brighton-Seaford service be extended to the west of the City to perhaps Hove, Littlehampton or even Bognor Regis?
It would surely generate its own traffic across the city, which could help to reduce Brighton’s bad traffic jams. Stations could be.
- Hove
- Brighton
- London Road (Brighton)
- Moulsecoomb
- Falmer
- Lewes
- Southease
- Newhaven Town
- Newhaven Harbour
- Bishopstone
- Seaford
I think if you can sort out Brighton station or create the Wivelsfield alternative, you could run a four trains per hour stopping service across the city for as far as you want.
Perhaps the slower stopping trains would go via Brighton and the semi-fast services would go via Wivelsfield.
It’s a problem, that I suspect Network Rail have thought through fully!
Train Movements At Brighton
The only problem would be that the combined Coastway Line would need to cross the throat of the station, probably in a flat junction.
Say the Joint Coastway Line had the following services at Brighton.
- 2-4 trains per hour between Seaford and Littlehampton/Bognor, that would stop at all stations including Brighton.
- 2-4 trains per hour between Ashford International and Portsmouth Harbour and/or Southampton Central, that would stop at major stations only.
These would come into a platform or platforms on the Eastern side of the station, which would mean any train going to or coming from the West Coastway, would have to cross the Brighton Main Line to London.
The services to and from London after Thameslink is fully opened could be.
- 3 trains per hour to Victoria.
- 4 trains per hour on Thameslink
I’m no signalling expert, but I do feel that much more onerous train movements are coped with in stations like Manchester Piccadilly, Paddington and Waterloo.
Note the four trains per hour frequency on Thameslink (two from Cambridge and two from Bedford) Surely, if Coastway services are four trains per hour, then all services should have a pattern, so journeys like Seaford to Cambridge, involved just a walk across a platform at Brighton.
I’m sure some clever train scheduler can come up with an optimal pattern of changing trains at Brighton, especially if some trains used the alternative route via Wivelsfield.
But my feeling is that as Brighton is such an important station, that all Coastway services must either terminate or stop in the station.
At least there does not appear to be significant freight running on the Coastways.
Capacity At Brighton Station
The Thameslink Program and its Class 700 trains, will probably increase passengers through Brighton station.
Knowing the quality of Network Rail’s passenger transport modelling, I would not bet against Thameslink being so successful between London and Brighton, that additional services have to be added.
As the Thameslink trains will be new and they serve lots of destinations in London and beyond, I think it is a given, that passengers from places like Eastbourne and Worthing, might use Thameslink instead of their local direct route, changing at either Brighton or Gatwick Airport.
Conclusions
Improvement of the Coastways, is just one part of an evolving plan for rail and air services in Kent, Surrey and Sussex.
As there are important lines in the area that are not electrified, I’m certain that IPEMUs will play a part in this development.
After all, the technology works and we will soon have lots of Class 387 trains sitting in sidings.
Lunch At Rye
I stopped off at Rye for lunch at the Mermaid Inn, which was a gentle walk up the hill from the railway station.
I had a simple but excellent lunch of grilled plaice, new potatoes and some freshly-cooked broccoli, washed down with half of real cider.
It really isn’t difficult to create a simple gluten-free meal, as the Mermaid showed. In some ways, it’s ironic to get a good gluten-free meal in a town with the name of Rye!
It was just what I needed on a bitterly cold day.
My only problem with Rye was that there weren’t any maps at the station and if it hadn’t been for the map I printed off the Mermaid’s website, it would have been difficult to find.
I shall go back in the sun and explore Rye. I’ll certainly find the Tourist Information and give them a piece of my mind on the lack of information.
To Brighton The Long Way
As it had been a long time, since I’d been to the Rye area in Kent, I decided to go to see Ipswich at Brighton, by taking the long way round via Ashford, Brighton and Lewes.
I arrived at Ashford on the high speed Class 395 from St. Pancras and from there to Rye, I had a very clean Class 171 to myself.
With some of the controversy about the lack of toilets on Crossrail, it is interesting to note that the six car Class 395 has only two toilets, whilst the two car Class 171 has just a single. So it would appear that there isn’t much demand for toilets-on-the-go in Kent.
On a serious note, the journey from Ashford to Rye is on the Marshlink Line, which has recently been looked at for electrification so that high-speed services can come from St. Pancras to Hastings, Bexhill and Eastbourne via Ashford. It’s reported here in Kent Online.
If you look at the area from Ashford to Eastbourne, it is not one of the most prosperous places in the South East, although it has improved in recent years, so the promoters of the scheme might have a point, when they say an improved train service might give the whole area a lift.
An electrified Marshlink Line connecting Ashford to Ore where the existing third-rails finish could be one of those additions to the rail network, where because it’s there, you get all sorts of unexpected benefits.
The electrification would have to be third rail, which is probably something Network Rail want to avoid. But this would mean that apart from the freight services to Dungeness Power station, all the services along the South Coast could be electric, as third rail running is no problem for the Class 395. The Class 171 would find employment elsewhere.
The case is probably not a strong one, as if it was when the Marshlink Line had problems in Ore Tunnel a couple of years ago, the powers that be, would have taken the opportunity presented by the line closure to electrify it.
What will probably result in the electrification of the Marshlink Line is developments on the diesel-operated Uckfield branch of the Oxted Line. In the discussion of the future of this line on Wikipedia, various scenarios are put forward that could result in the full electrification of this line. If this happens, then electrification of the Marshlink Link would remove the Class 171 trains from Sussex and Kent, which surely would be a saving in train care costs.
According to this report in the Sussex Express, the council is backing electrification of both lines.
Electrifying two rail lines in East Sussex, including Uckfield to Hurst Green, is the best way of improving capacity, reducing journey times and boosting the county’s economy, a council chief said.
East Sussex County Council has designated the electrification and dual tracking of the Uckfield to Hurst Green and Hastings to Ashford lines as its key priorities for improving rail infrastructure and services.
The report also mentions an East Sussex Council Council report entitled Shaping Rail In East Sussex.
I have read this and it is a sensible document, that shows the council is serious about providing a good rail service for the area.
One thing the report mentions is that Thameslink was going to go to Eastbourne, but this has now been dropped. Other reports show that many commuters would like to be in London in seventy minutes instead of the current ninety and they had hoped a direct link via Thameslink would have helped achieve this. I doubt, going from Eastbourne to London via Ashford, would be anywhere near the magic seventy.
After 2018 when Thameslink is fully open, the pressure on railways in East Sussex will inevitably increase. Especially, as it is a county, where a lot of the roads are not an easy alternative.
I do wonder if electrification and dualling of these two lines is going to be one of a host of infrastructure projects announced before May.

























