Great British Railways And Private Sector To Compete For Ticket Sales
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on Railway Gazette.
This is the introductory paragraph.
The Department for Transport has announced that the future Great British Railways will sell tickets online, while retaining a ‘thriving’ private sector market where third party ticket retailers can compete in an ‘open and fair’ manner.
I would certainly like to see more innovation in the selling of rail tickets.
A few things I would like to see in ticketing include.
Ticketing Machines At Busy Interchanges
When, I wrote My First Trip On The Northumberland Line – 18th December 2024, I bought my Lumo ticket between Kings Cross and Newcastle at King’s Cross and needed to buy my ticket for Ashington at Newcastle station.
There is no ticket machine on the long walk between where Lumo trains arrive and leave and the Northumberland Line.
This is a common problem and someone needs to design a ticketing machine for interchanges to simplify the changing of trains for passengers.
Stations that need such a machine include.
- Clapham Junction on the bridge.
- Ipswich on the central platform.
- Leeds on the bridge.
- Reading on the bridge.
It should be noted, that in some cases train staff will sell you a ticket, which gets round the problem. But other train companies are getting tough on revenue enforcement.
These ticket machines could be provided by Great British Railways or a private company.
Automatic Freedom Pass Extension
If I don’t want to buy a physical ticket for Gatwick Airport, I can use my Freedom Pass to East Croydon. Then I exit the station and come back in using a credit card or my phone. I then exit at Gatwick, using the method I used to reenter at East Croydon.
But wouldn’t it be so much easier, if I could link a credit card to my Freedom Pass, so that the charge for East Croydon and Gatwick Airport was automatically charged to my credit card.
Collection Of Tickets
In Collecting National Rail Tickets, I had a moan at Transport for London about their unwillingness to provide facilities for passengers to pick up National Rail tickets.
This was their unfriendly notice at Tottenham Court Road station.
Facilities should be provided in many more places, where passengers can pick up rail tickets bought on-line.
These ticket collection machines could be provided by Great British Railways or a private company.
Stratford Station – New Gittins Road Entrance
I’ve been meaning to check out this new entrance at Stratford station for some time, as it opened in July 2024.
It is only a simple entrance with a gate-line, ticket machines, information displays and a warm hut for a ticket checker.
Transport for London and other transport operators could do with a few of these entrances, to cut off travelers, who don’t think they should pay.
Petition Calls Made To Scrap Blackwall And Silvertown Tolls
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on the BBC.
This is the sub-heading.
A petition containing more than 37,000 signatures calling for proposed tolls on the Blackwall and Silvertown tunnels to be scrapped has been presented at City Hall.
These four paragraphs give more details.
Toll charges of up to £4 per journey through the soon-to-open Silvertown Tunnel and the neighbouring Blackwall Tunnel were announced by Transport for London (TfL) on 26 November.
The Silvertown Tunnel will open next spring and will provide a new road crossing under the Thames between Silvertown and the Greenwich Peninsula.
The charges are “designed to manage levels of traffic using the tunnels”, TfL has said.
A TfL spokesperson added that without the tolls, “traffic would increase in both tunnels causing delays and congestion, which contribute to poorer air quality”.
Note.
- 37,000 is a large petition.
- If Transport for London wanted to reduce pollution, they could encourage greater use of hydrogen.
I have done some simple modeling using Excel.
- There are six vehicle crossings; Dartford Bridge, Dartford Crossing, Woolwich Ferry, Silvertown Tunnel, Blackwall Tunnel and Rotherhithe Tunnel.
- Matters are complicated by each crossing being a different size.
- There are several reliable rail crossings and a number of foot crossings, which offer alternatives, for those travellers on foot.
- Currently the worst disruption occurs, when more than one route is out of action at the same time.
It is a very complex river crossing,
I feel strongly that we aren’t going to get a true picture of traffic flow through the two new tunnels, until we see serious disruption on the Dartford Crossing.
But what worries me most, is that in the last few years, TfL have made decisions, where they must have done extensive mathematical modelling and they seem to have come up with answers, that are wide of the mark.
Congestion Prediction
I believe that we now have enough data, that by the use of modern computing, advanced vehicle detection techniques and a liberal dollop of artificial intelligence we should be able to accurately predict the traffic flow over the Thames between Dartford and Silvertown, better than we have done in the past.
But will this just mean, that everybody just takes the least-congested route?
Struggling To Get Home From Moorgate Station
In most cases to get back to my house, I take a convenient 141 bus from Moorgate station.
- The bus stop at Moorgate is the same side of the road as the exit from Moorgate station.
- At the stop at my home, I just cross the not very busy road and there is a zebra crossing, if the road is busy.
- The walks at both ends are not more than fifty metres.
- The 141 bus, used to share the route with the 21 bus, which meant there was a bus every five minutes.
- The 21 buses are more comfortable New Routemasters.
Now, that the 21 bus no longer shares the route, timings of the 141 are much extended, with sometimes a wait of as long as 15 minutes.
This is because.
- The traffic has got a lot heavier.
- One fleet of buses, is taking both groups of passengers.
- Islington has laid out numerous Low Traffic Neighbourhoods.
Consequently, the remaining 141 buses have a much higher passenger density and I don’t always get a seat.
This Saturday and Sunday, the Elizabeth Line wasn’t running, so the buses were overcrowded.
On both days, I had to get a 76 bus from Moorgate to De Beauvoir Town, as I had waited for a long time and one had not been shown on the app.
Yesterday, I would have had to wait 26 minutes for the 141 bus to do the last mile to get home.
So I walked and took these pictures of Islington’s not so pretty pavements.
Compared to Hackney, they are not a pretty sight. And the pavements did make walking difficult.
As I did the last leg to my house, five 141 buses passed me, as Transport for London don’t believe in spreading them out, where there are punters.
Luckily, I wasn’t carrying anything heavy!
Today, I was even luckier in that a 141 bus stopped, soon after I got off the 76.
More Mushroom Management On TfL Buses
After my experience in Mushroom Management On TfL Buses, I’ve changed my weekend breakfast routine at weekends, to one where on Saturdays and Sundays, I eat breakfast in London’s poshest Leon at Hanover Square, which I wrote about in A Quality Takeaway With A Station And A Large Garden.
It is a large restaurant.
It has comfortable seating.
It is within my not very long walking distance of the Bakerloo, Central, Elizabeth, Jubilee and Victoria Lines, and Oxford Street with all its buses.
There is a garden with seating in the square.
This picture shows the frontage of the building.
It’s certainly not your average takeaway or fast food outlet.
Normally, Hanover Square is a very easy location for me to travel to.
- I walk round the corner to the stop for the 38 bus.
- The 38 buses are usually every 3-4 minutes and I travel to Tottenham Court Road station.
- I go one stop on the Elizabeth Line, travelling in the rear of the train to Bond Street station.
- I’m then at the right end of the station to exit directly into Hanover Square, after riding up from the depths on a long escalator.
Leon is just a fifty metre walk away.
Today, there were no problems, although I did cut it a bit tight.
But all was fine in the end and I had a good full-English breakfast.
A Difficult Journey Home!
When, I set off from home, I wasn’t sure which way, I would come home.
In the end, I decided to come home the simple way of taking the Elizabeth Line to Moorgate station and then getting the 141 bus from there, as it stops close to my home.
But this route has the Elizabeth Line end-changing problem, in that the Hanover Square entrance at Bond Street station is at the Eastern end of the train and the Moorgate entrance at Liverpool Street station is at the Western end of the train.
So at some point in the journey, I would have to take a two-hundred metre walk, either on the platform or inside the train. The latter is not easy on a train to and from Heathrow, as it is often stuffed full with cases in the aisle. Why do people want to take all the contents of their house on holiday?
So I decided to go via a reverse at Whitechapel, where I positioned myself at the Western end of the train for exit at Moorgate.
It really was necessary to install travellators at Liverpool Street station on the Elizabeth Line, as between the two entrances is a long walk, as this graphic shows.
Note.
- Moorgate is to the left
- Liverpool Street is to the right.
But then Transport for London wanted a spectacular line with spectacular stations, that would win awards. Which it has!
I alighted from the train at the Moorgate end of the station, which meant that after two escalator rides and a short walk, I was at the 141 bus stop on the surface.
But there were no buses of any numbers calling at the stop.
This was because of the Lord Mayor’s Show, which meant there were no buses through the City.
But.
- There were no posters at stations saying that the show was taking place and buses would be diverted.
- Displays on bus stops were not saying anything about the show.
- The BBC hadn’t mentioned the Lord Mayor’s Show on the TV this morning.
- The BBC doesn’t have a local news at weekends, which would surely have mentioned the show and its effects on public transport.
- The display on the bus stop at Moorgate was still broken, as it has been for six months.
- There was a small information poster on the bus stop, but it was positioned too high for me to see.
- Taxis seemed to be avoiding the City.
There were a few stewards about and one suggested, that I walked to Old Street, which would not be easy on my legs.
In the end, I decoded that a retreat via Whitechapel and Dalston Junction was probably the best way to get home, as the Overground would be unlikely to be effected.
But I made the mistake of getting on a Circle Line train at Moorgate, so I didn’t get to Whitechapel.
Instead, I walked to the 141 and 21 bus stop at Monument station and caught a 21 bus North. I hoped that I would be able to connect to the 141 bus, that I needed to get home.
I did get safely home, but only after two long waits at bus stops, where I changed bus routes twice.
Conclusion
Transport for London need to devise bus plans for all major events and publicise them well in advance.
In London’s New 733 Bus Route, I described how Transport for London put in a temporary bus route between Finsbury Square and Oval stations to replace the Northern Line during the upgrade of Bank station.
As the Lord Mayor’s Show happens every year, surely the same plan can be rolled out each year, with any appropriate changes.
I’d be interested to know whether other large cities have plans for big celebrations in city centres.
TfL May Increase e-Scooter Speed Limit And Lower Age Restriction
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on the Telegraph.
This is the sub-heading.
Riders would be able to travel at 15.5mph including 16-year-olds who hold a provisional driving licence
I’m now seventy-seven and I’ve never ridden one of these devices. I didn’t even have one of the push-only variety, as a child in the 1950s.
The article says this about serious injuries.
The authority’s own data shows that e-scooter operators have reported 35 serious injuries since 2021. A serious injury is classified as those requiring hospital “in-patient” treatment, fractures, concussion, internal injuries, crushing, burns, severe cuts or injuries causing death 30 or more days after the collision.
A death figure is not given, but deaths have happened.
My feeling is that thirty-five serious injuries in three years is too high.
But then allowing those as young as sixteen to use these devices without adequate training is surely asking for trouble. I was sixteen once and know how irresponsible, I was on an unpowered bike, at that age.
I have to ask the question, if safety would be improved, if some form of training were to be compulsory?
My parents had a relaxed attitude to my road safety training.
- I was allowed on a bike in the suburban streets of London without training.
- I never took any Cycling Proficiency training.
- At sixteen, I used to cycle down the A45, which is now the A14, between Ipswich and Felixstowe amongst all the heavy trucks.
- I never had any formal driving lessons and had my own car soon over my seventeenth birthday.
In all the miles, I cycled and drove, I never had a serious accident.
- But I am still unhappy at the two proposals in the title of this post.
- Is it that many e-Scooters are ridden irresponsibly or outside the law?
- I am also worried about the propensity of e-Scooters and e-Bikes to catch fire.
I would certainly be happier if a reasonable set of rules for these devices had been devised and was strictly enforced.
Mushroom Management On TfL Buses
Transport for London or as all Londoners abuse them as TfL, are getting the masters at applying mushroom management to running the buses. Especially at the weekends.
For those of you not familiar with the last century term, it means keeping everybody in the dark and throwing in lots of manure. As in the 1970s, I used to live next door to a mushroom factory, I know it at least works with fungi, but I’m not sure of it’s effectiveness with fleets of buses about moving passengers.
Most Saturdays, I take a 141 bus to Moorgate and have a full English gluten-free breakfast in the Leon cafe there, as I like to set myself up for the weekend.
The 141 bus may be one of the least reliable buses in the capital, but last Saturday, I was dropped close to Liverpool Street station and yesterday, I was dropped under the Barbican.
No warning, advice or apology about the change of plan.
But then like the Mayor, TfL are never in the wrong.
Today was different!
After taking a 56 bus from near my house to the Angel I had another full English gluten-free breakfast in the Leon cafe there, before taking the Northern Line to Euston station.
I was hoping, I could take a trip somewhere, but there were extensive engineering works, so I just came home from Euston on the Overground via Willesden Junction station.
I ended up at Hackney Central station, where I did a bit of shopping in the excellent M & S Food shop.
Normally, I just get a 38 bus home from the side of the station, but there weren’t any around.
Again, there was no warning, advice or apology. Just loads of people looking for non-existent buses.
It was a full three hours before I completed my round trip.
Transport for London has no respect for its passengers.
Normal businesses would go bust, if they treated their customers like this.
Is A Ride Across South London On Tramlink, The Worst Rail Ride In London?
Last week, I took a ride across South London on the London Tramlink from Beckenham Junction to Wimbledon.
I was in one of the original Bombardier trams and it was very underwhelming.
None Of The Current Trams Have Air-Conditioning
These days, this is expected.
In this article on RailAdvent, which is entitled Potential Tram Builders Announced For New London Trams, this is said.
Transport for London has issued an Invitation to Tender for four manufacturers to design and build a new fleet of trams.
Alstom UK, CAF, Hitachi and Stadler are the four manufacturers who can now proceed to the next stage of the procurement process with Transport for London to design and build the new trams.
The new trams are expected to feature air-conditioning, real time travel info and charging points, along with areas designed for wheelchair users and those with pushchairs and luggage.
It sounds that the new trams will be to a higher standard with more comfort and interior space.
The Current Trams Have Bricks For Seat Padding
In my except from the Rail Advent article, surely this is covered with more comfort.
The Current Trams Lack Interior Space
In my except from the Rail Advent article, surely this is covered with more interior space.
On one journey recently, two mothers were having a friendly discussion about the limited space for their buggies.
The Current Trams Lack Flat Floors
The floors weren’t flat on my cross-London tram ride and it nearly tripped me up.
All trams, buses and trains should have flat floors and no-step entrances and exits.
The Current Trams Lack Details That Passengers Now Expect
In my except from the Rail Advent article, surely this is covered with more real time travel info and charging points.
The Route Of The Tramlink Is Boring
I’ve travelled on trams and light rail systems in other cities and towns, in the UK, in Europe and around the world.
But I feel that unlike say Blackpool Tramway, except for a couple of shopping centres and IKEA, London Tramlink doesn’t take you anywhere.
I expected to find refreshment kiosks at the terminals, but only at Wimbledon and East Croydon did they exist.
Perhaps, Transport for London could add a few kiosks, as they have done on the Overground?
Conclusion
Transport for London should look at all aspects of design of the London Tramlink.
Council’s Concerns Over Suggested Tunnel Charges
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on the BBC.
This is the sub-heading.
Concerns have been raised by a county council over suggested charges at the Silvertown and Blackwall tunnels in London.
These are the first two paragraphs.
Kent County Council (KCC) said the proposed charges could impact on the county’s traffic, including at the Dartford Crossing.
The council said although it supported TfL’s ambition to improve journey reliability and reduce air pollution, it believed the proposed changes could “significantly affect” drivers from Kent.
I can’t see that the charges on the two tunnels won’t affect drivers habits.
Thirty years ago, before satellite-navigation had been invented, when my family and myself lived in East Suffolk, if I was returning from Brighton or Gatwick, I would make a choice about, whether to use the Dartford Crossing or the Blackwall Tunnel. Sometimes traffic was so bad, that I had to take the longer Western route using the M11 and the A14.
I didn’t really bother about the toll on the Dartford Tunnel, as it was then, but often the free Blackwall route was quicker.
In those days, I was relying on radio reports, but now with satellite-navigation, drivers will be taking more intelligent decisions, that take account of tolls.
The BBC article also says this.
The council says Kent drivers make up 10% of the Blackwall Tunnel’s users.
So it looks like the drivers of Kent will be paying tolls to London.
These are my thoughts.
How Can The Tolls Be Avoided?
There will still be two free crossings, to the East of Tower Bridge; the Rotherhithe Tunnel and the Woolwich Ferry, but how long will they remain free, if they drain money from the tolled tunnels?
What About The Trains?
Trains from somewhere like Ebbsfleet international station can be used.
Ebbsfleet international station has a lot of parking, but at some stations parking is distinctly limited.
I doubt though, that Transport for London have done a professional survey of the amount of parking that is needed.
They tend to believe if people live out of London, that parking for trips to London is not a Transport for London problem.
Are there any plans to increase the train frequencies, if more people use them?
Note that Off Peak Day Return tickets can be purchased with a Railcard, from Dartford to London for under a tenner, and from Ebbsfleet international to London for under fifteen pounds.
If Built, Will The Lower Thames Crossing Help?
The first paragraph of the Wikipedia entry for the Lower Thames Crossing, describes it like this.
The Lower Thames Crossing is a proposed road crossing of the Thames estuary downstream of the Dartford Crossing that links the counties of Kent and Essex, and its proposed approaches. If built it would pass through the districts of Thurrock and Gravesham, supplementing the Dartford route. The approximately 14.3-mile (23.0 km) route is being assessed by the Planning Inspectorate.
As it is likely to cost nine billion pounds and take six years to build, I can’t see the current Government building it.
But it would certainly make it easier for traffic to go between the Channel Tunnel and North of London.
Conclusion
I can see the UK muddling through, when we should be bold and create the transport infrastructure for the Twenty-First Century.
For instance, I would extend the Elizabeth Line in the North-East to Southend and in the South-East to Ebbsfleet and Gravesend. With the existing cross-platform interchange at Whitechapel, I believe, it could pick up much of the cross-river passenger traffic close to London.
I also feel that there will need to be improved connections between the fast-expanding London Gateway freight port and the Channel Tunnel.
Potential Tram Builders Announced For New London Trams
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on RailAdvent.
These three paragraphs outline the design of the new trams.
Transport for London has issued an Invitation to Tender for four manufacturers to design and build a new fleet of trams.
Alstom UK, CAF, Hitachi and Stadler are the four manufacturers who can now proceed to the next stage of the procurement process with Transport for London to design and build the new trams.
The new trams are expected to feature air-conditioning, real time travel info and charging points, along with areas designed for wheelchair users and those with pushchairs and luggage.
It sounds that the new trams will be to a higher standard with more comfort and interior space.
These are my observations and thoughts.
Will There Be The Same Number of Trams?
These two paragraphs indicate the number of trams.
The initial contract will be for 24 new trams to replace the oldest trams on the network – which are now nearly 25 years old.
There is an option in the contract to replace the trams that were introduced from 2012.
Could this mean, that each tram would be replaced on a one-to-one basis?
It would surely make it easy to introduce the new fleet.
Will The New Trams Be Longer?
To me, the most significant words in the article are “areas designed for wheelchair users and those with pushchairs and luggage”.
As passengers seem to want to carry more and more with them on buses, trains and probably trams in London, I believe the new trams will probably need more interior space.
Increasing the width of the tram, would probably mean gauging difficulties, but with the lengthening of some platforms longer trams might be possible.
The current trams are as follows.
- 24 x Bombardier CR4000 – 30.1 metres – 70+138=208 = 6.9 pass/metre
- 12 x Stadler Variobahn – 32 metres – 72+134 = 206 = 6.4 pass/metre
Note.
- The total number of each tram type is at the left.
- Seats+Standing=Total Passengers.
- The Bombardier trams only have a single articulation, but it looks like the Stadler ones have four.
The longer Stadler trams seem less crowded, despite carrying two fewer passengers.
I have looked at the terminal platforms on maps and it appears, that 35 metre and possibly 40 metre trams would be possible.
At least in London, passengers are used to being told not to use the end door.
A 40 metre tram could probably handle over 250 passengers based on the Stadler passenger density.
Longer Trams Could Increase Capacity By Up To 25 %
I believe my figures show this could be possible.
More Articulations Should Mean A Tighter Turning Circle
This could help operation on some existing or new sections of London Tramlink.
Would Battery Tram-Train Operation Be Useful?
CAF’s trams in the West Midlands already have batteries and Stadler’s tram-trains in Cardiff will have batteries to extend routes on rail tracks, that don’t have electrification.
In Could Beckenham Junction To Birkbeck Be Run Using Third-Rail Tram-Trains?, I detailed how third-rail tram-trains could be used between Harrington Lane tram stop and Beckenham Junction station to create more capacity.
I believe that third-rail tram-trains would work, but that Health and Safety would outlaw the concept.
On the other hand, battery-electric tram trains could probably handle the link between train and tram routes.
If I was bidding for the TramLink contract, I’d make sure the trams could be updated with a battery-electric tram-train capability.
Increasing Capacity At Elmers End Tram Stop
Elmers End tram stop, is the only terminal on the London Tramlink with a single platform.
This map from OpenRailwayMap shows the platform layout at Elmers End station.
Note.
- The orange lines are the Hayes Line.
- The mauve line is the London Tramlink.
- The London Tramlink has a single platform on the North-West side of the Hayes Line.
These pictures show Elmers End station and a tram in the London Tramlink platform.
Note.
- The bridge in the station is not step-free.
- The tram is a five-section Stadler Variobahn.
- The tram platform would appear to be able to handle a tram, that is several metres longer than the 32.0 metre Stadler Variobahn.
- The London Tramlink has a typical off-peak service to Wimbledon every ten minutes from Elmers End tram stop.
The Wikipedia entry for Elmers End station, says this about Tramlink developments at the station.
Work is underway to open a second tram platform and double the tram line to Arena to increase capacity. As of March 2019, vegetation has been cleared to make way for the new line. The platform was due to open in December 2020, but has been delayed.
My pictures show no ongoing work or evidence of the second Tramlink platform.
There are two main ways, that capacity can be increased at Elmers End station.
- Install a second platform and run more trams to the station.
- Run longer trams with a higher capacity.
Perhaps, Transport for London have decided, that the second way, is the best, especially, if the money saved, allows them to build a much-needed step-free footbridge at Elmers End station.
From my observations, I would estimate that Elmers End tram stop could accommodate a forty metre tram and possibly, one that was even longer.
Arena Tram Stop
The Arena tram stop, is where the Beckenham Junction and Elmers End branches join and split.
This map from OpenRailwayMap shows the platform layout at Arena tram stop.
Note.
- The mauve lines are the London Tramlink.
- The line going North-East runs to Elmers End. It starts off as double-track at Arena tram stop and quickly becomes single track all the way to Elmers End. tram stop.
- The line going North-West runs to Beckenham Junction.
- The line going South-West runs to East Croydon and Wimbledon.
- The platforms are on the outside of both tracks.
These pictures show Arena tram stop and some trams passing through.
Note.
- The tram platforms are generally a few metres longer than the trams.
- All tram doors are step-free to the platform.
- Passengers walk across the line in front or behind the trams.
- The platform is wide, so that passengers can stay well clear of the occasional passing tram. One picture shows a tram is signed “Not In Service”
I believe, that with some judicial platform lengthening, some selective door opening and trams stopping automatically in the right place on the platform, that longer trams could be handled in a stop like Arena.
As with Elmers End, I believe a forty metre tram will be possible, but this might not be the limit with clever design.
Handling Longer Trams At Beckenham Junction Tram Stop
This map from OpenRailwayMap shows the platform layout at Beckenham Junction tram stop.
Note.
- The orange lines are the Chatham Main Line.
- The mauve line is the London Tramlink.
- There are a pair of short platforms for the London Tramlink.
- The platforms would be difficult to extend to the East.
- The platforms would be difficult to extend to the West, as the map above shows a building, just to the North of the junction of the two Tramlink platforms.
These pictures show Beckenham Junction station and the London Tramlink platforms.
The Wikipedia entry for Beckenham Junction tram stop, says this about the Tramlink service.
Tram services at Beckenham Junction are operated by Tramlink. The tram stop is served by trams every 10 minutes to Wimbledon via Croydon. This is reduced to a tram every 15 minutes on Saturday evenings and Sundays.
Perhaps, the solution to lengthen Tramlink platforms at Beckenham Junction is to do the following.
- Rebuild the building to the North of the junction of the two Tramlink platforms.
- Extend the two Tramlink platforms to the West.
- Move the junction between the two Tramlink platforms to the West.
These pictures show the building in detail.
Note.
- There is a Network Rail van outside the building.
- The building looks like it dates from about 2000, when the Tramlink was built.
- Perhaps, the building houses power supply or signalling equipment for the Tramlink.
After the modifications, operation would be the same, but longer trams could be handled.
Trams And Trains Between Birkbeck And Beckenham Junction Stations
This short section of track must be one of the most unusual and complicated in the UK.
- There are three dual National Rail and Tramlink stations; Birkbeck, Avenue Road and Beckenham Road.
- Each station has a single bi-directional National Rail track and/or platform.
- Birkbeck has a single bi-directional Tramlink platform.
- Avenue Road and Beckenham Road each have two Tramlink platforms.
Engineer; Baldrick was obviously having one of his cunning phases.
This map from OpenRailwayMap shows the track/platform layout at Birkbeck station/tram stop.
Note.
- The yellow line is the National Rail line between Crystal Palace and Beckenham Junction.
- The mauve line is the London Tramlink between Croydon and Beckenham Junction.
- There is no rail connection between the two lines.
Birkbeck station/tram stop has bi-directional platforms on both National Rail and London Tramlink.
These pictures were taken at the Birkbeck station/tram stop.
Note.
- The two bi-directional platforms.
- The wire fence between the tracks.
- The two tracks appear to be the same level, but the National Rail platforms seem quite a bit higher.
From the pictures, I would estimate that the Birkbeck tram stop platform is currently about thirty-five metres and could probably handle a forty metre tram with selective door opening.
This map from OpenRailwayMap shows the track/platform layout at Avenue Road station/tram stop.
Note.
- The yellow line is the National Rail line between Crystal Palace and Beckenham Junction.
- The National Rail line isn’t shown to have a platform.
- The mauve line is the London Tramlink between Croydon and Beckenham Junction.
- There is no rail connection between the two lines.
London Tramlink has a loop through the tram stop and each branch has a platform.
These pictures were taken at the Avenue Road tram stop.
I would estimate the the loop at Avenue Road tram stop could handle a forty metre tram and possibly one of forty-five metres, judging the loop against this thirty-two metre Stadler tram.
This map from OpenRailwayMap shows the track/platform layout at Beckenham Road station/tram stop.
Note.
- The yellow line is the National Rail line between Crystal Palace and Beckenham Junction.
- The National Rail line isn’t shown to have a platform.
- The mauve line is the London Tramlink between Croydon and Beckenham Junction.
- There is no rail connection between the two lines.
The London Tramlink has a single bi-directional platform.
There is also a loop in the London Tramlink to the East of Beckenham Road station/tram stop to allow trams to pass.
These pictures were taken at the Beckenham Road tram stop.
Note.
- A train conveniently came through from London Bridge to Beckenham Junction, when I was taking pictures.
- Several pictures show trams using the loop to the East of the tram stop.
- Both types of tram were pictured in the tram stop.
- The platform in the tram stop is wide.
From the pictures, I would estimate that the Beckenham Road tram stop platform is currently about thirty-five metres and could probably handle a forty metre tram with selective door opening.
Tram-Train Operation Between Birkbeck And Beckenham Junction Stations
I am certain that if this track was being designed today, tram-train operation would be used.
- There would be two tracks, with one for each direction, through Birkbeck, Avenue Road and Beckenham Road stations.
- Both tracks would have dual-height platform at each station/tram stop, so tram and train passengers got level boarding.
- Trains would use third-rail power and trams would use battery-power.
Unfortunately, tram-trains didn’t exist, when the London Tramlink was designed.
Handling Longer Trams At New Addington Tram Stop
This map from OpenRailwayMap shows the platform layout at New Addington tram stop.
These pictures show the New Addington tram stop and the London Tramlink platforms.
If some of the grassland around the platforms was allocated to the tram stop, I suspect the platforms could be lengthened.
Handling Longer Trams At Wimbledon Station
This map from OpenRailwayMap shows the platform layout at Wimbledon station.
Note.
- The mauve line is the London Tramlink.
- There are two platforms; 10A and 10B, which are indicated with a separate dot.
- Platform 9, which is used by Thameslink, is the other side of Platform 10, so interchange to Thameslink is excellent.
- The main tram platform 9/10 is wide.
- The platforms are step-free to the trams, with lifts to the station bridge and the other platforms and Way Out.
I suspect that when the second platform was built, both platforms were made longer than the thirty-two metres needed for the Stadler trams.
These pictures show the two platforms.
Could another platform be created on the other side of the tracks to give better access to the tracks?
Conclusions
My first conclusion is that the London Tramlink could be run by a new fleet of the same number of trams, that were a few metres longer than the current 30.7/32 metres of the current trams.
- I suspect that forty metre trams would be possible, with a few modifications to platforms.
- It might even be possible to have forty-five metre trams, with a more substantial rebuild at Beckenham Junction.
- Trams could overhang platforms and selective door opening could be used.
- Forty metre trams would carry 25 % more passengers than the current trams.
- The Elmers End and Wimbledon terminals already seem to be capable of handling forty metre long trams and possibly could take trams a few metres longer.
I suspect that Elmers End and Wimbledon, could be the first route, where the longer trams were introduced, as the trams should be able to shuttle between the two end terminals to the current timetable.
The New Addington tram stop would be brought into operation next.
- Platforms would be lengthened as required.
- Trams operate a frying pan loop from New Addington to Croydon, with an Off Peak frequency of 7-8 minutes.
- I suspect that one platform won’t be able to handle this frequency.
- The last point probably means that the two platforms will need to be lengthened.
Works at the New Addington tram stop could be tricky, but not substantial.
Initially, the service to Beckenham Junction could be run by the existing Stadler Variobahn trams.
I believe that a lot of work will need to be done to get Beckenham Junction ready for the new trams if they are longer, which I suspect they are.
- The Network Rail installation will have to be relocated.
- The two platforms will have to be lengthened.
I suspect the works will be substantial.
But I do believe, that there is scope to plan all the works at the terminals, so they can be done efficiently, whilst at least maintaining a partial service.
My second conclusion, is that it will be possible to build a financial model, which shows infrastructure costs against tram lengths.
Longer trams will cost more and cost more for infrastructure, but they will carry more passengers and collect more fare revenue.


















































































































