Uber Partners With Gemini For Channel Tunnel Train Plan
The title of this post is the same as that of this article on Railway Gazette.
These two introductory paragraphs give more details.
Ridesharing app company Uber has announced a co-branding partnership with Gemini Trains, which is developing plans to launch open access passenger services through the Channel Tunnel.
Gemini plans to purchase 10-newly designed trains to offer ‘comfortable high-quality and frequent’ services with competitive fares, running from London Stratford International station – which has never been used for international services – to Paris Nord and Brussels Midi. All trains would call at Ebbsfleet International, which Eurostar no longer serves. Gemini also plans to expand services to ‘further exciting European destinations’, suggesting that Paris and Brussels are ‘just the start’.
It looks like Gemini Trains will run the trains and Uber will help with marketing, publicity and ticket sales.
Is The Silvertown Tunnel A Silver Elephant?
I have been through the Silvertown Tunnel several times now and every time the bus has never really slowed for lots of traffic.
I went through this morning on Easter Sunday and these pictures show all the other traffic I saw.
Note.
- I was sitting in the front passenger seat of a 129 bus, which is on the left of the bus.
- We were going from South to North through the Silvertown Tunnel.
- I could read the driver’s speedometer and it showed within a mile per hour of thirty all the way.
- We were passed by only one car in the tunnel.
- There were about a dozen passengers on the lower deck of the bus.
- I didn’t check how many were on the top deck of the bus.
Even on an Easter Sunday, I would have thought the service would have been busier.
Is The Silvertown Tunnel A Silver Elephant?
There are two answera to this question.
- Yes – A lot of money has been spent for just a few cars and bus passengers to have an easy ride through the tunnel.
- No – As traffic is flowing freely through the tunnel, it shows the tunnel is doing its job and freeing up traffic in East London.
But whatever view you take, a lot of money has been spent for a small number of vehicles and passengers to pass through the tunnel.
I also suspect very little extra revenue is being generated.
The Jubilee Line Was Busy
The complete route I took this morning was as follows.
- Home To Angel – 38 bus – Not very busy.
- Angel to London Bridge – Northern Line – Not very busy.
- London Bridge to North Greenwich – Jubilee Line – All seats taken.
- North Greenwich to West Silvertown – 129 bus – Not very busy.
- West Silvertown to Canning Town – Docklands Light Railway – Not very busy.
- Canning Town to Canada Water – Jubilee Line – All seats taken.
- Canada Water to Dalston Junction – Overground – Not very busy.
- Dalston Junction to Home – 30 bus – Not very busy.
Note.
- Only the sections on the Jubilee Line were really busy, with all seats taken.
- London Bridge, Stratford and Waterloo stations on the Jubilee Line are also busy National Rail stations.
- London Bridge, Canada Water, North Greenwich, Canning Town and Stratford all have large modern well-designed bus stations within easy walking distance of the Jubilee Line.
- Given, that there is now a charge to cross the river, have a lot of people decided to take the Jubilee Line rather than their car to go to the O2 at North Greenwich and the Olympic Park and Eastfield at Stratford?
I strongly feel, that more capacity is needed on the Jubilee Line, as no matter what time I use it, I never seem to get a seat.
Taking The Dover Road
This Google Map shows how the A2 ( the Dover Road) links up with the Silvertown and Blackwall Tunnels.
Note.
- The O2 in the North-West corner of the map, with North Greenwich station in red under it.
- The Blackwall Tunnel crosses the river to the North-West of the O2.
- The Silvertown Tunnel crosses the river to the East of the O2.
- Running diagonally across the map is the Blackwall Tunnel Southern Approach, which also serves the Silvertown Tunnel.
- The station to the West of the Southern Approach is Westcombe Park station.
- Click the map to show it to a larger scale.
This second Google Map shows the O2, North Greenwich station and the approaches to both tunnels.
Note.
- The half-moon-shaped building is North Greenwich station.
- The tunnel approaches are rather complicated, but seem to be working well.
- There is lots of car parking.
- The Blackwall Tunnel Southern Approach leaves the tunnles in a Southerly direction.
- Click the map to show it to a larger scale.
This third Google Map shows how the A2 (Dover Road) and A20 (Folkestone Road) link up to the Blackwall Tunnel Southern Approach.
Note.
- The station in the North-West corner of the map is Westcombe Park.
- The road running diagonally South-East from the corner is the Blackwall Tunnel Southern Approach.
- The Blackwall Tunnel Southern Approach then turns East to join with the A2 (Dover Road).
- The Blackwall Tunnel Southern Approach also links up with the A20 (Folkestone Road) , which is the other road running diagonally at the bottom of the map.
In some ways, I am rather surprised at how little traffic is passing through the tunnels given this double dual-carriageway/motorway connection to East Kent, the Channel Tunnel and the Continent. It also has a double connection at both the A2 and A20 to join the M25.
Perhaps, it does mean that the charges are frightening drivers away.
The Roads To The North
This Google Map shows the main approach road to the Blackwall Tunnel.
Note.
- The O2 and North Greenwich station in the South-East corner of the map.
- The Blackwall Tunnel crosses the river to the North-West of the O2.
- The A12 dual-carriageway runs North up the Lea Valley through Hackney.
- There is a dual-carriageway/motorway box formed by the M11 in the West, A12 in the East, M 25 in the North and A 406 in the South to speed traffic on its way, including to the two main routes to the North; the M1 and the A1.
I have lived for thirty years of my life in North London, and I feel, that although the roads to the North of London could be improved, I don’t suspect they are the reason drivers are not using the Silvertown and Blackwall Tunnels.
I would suspect that drivers don’t like or trust the charging system, or could it be that the public transport system in London and especially the East of London is too good?
But we do need to increase the capacity of the Jubilee Line either directly or would a high-capacity bus-route shadowing the line, be able to add the extra capacity needed?
Blackwall Tunnel On A Sunday Morning
This morning, as it was a Sunday, I checked out Blackwall and Silvertown Tunnels for traffic for free, using my Freedom Pass.
These pictures were taken, on my route South to North Greenwich station.
Note.
Eurostar Cancels All Today’s Trains After Tunnel Floods
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on the BBC.
This is the sub-heading.
Eurostar has cancelled all of Saturday’s services to and from London St Pancras due to flooding in a tunnel under the River Thames, throwing new year travel into chaos.
These are the first two paragraphs.
This morning, Eurostar said it hoped later services could run but it has now cancelled all 41 trains.
All Southeastern’s high-speed services to Ebbsfleet, which use the same line, have also been cancelled.
I know the tunnel shouldn’t flood, but Eurostar don’t seem to have an adequate emergency plan to keep things moving, when it does.
The plan would obvious depend on where and what the problem was, but if something goes wrong at the London end of High Speed One, then surely the remaining infrastructure should be used to run an emergency service.
With flooding in the tunnel between Stratford International and Ebbsfleet International, trains could only run as far as Ebbsfleet, but surely an hourly shuttle could be run between Ebbsfleet and both Brussels and Paris.
The problem would surely be getting travellers between St. Pancras and Ebbsfleet International.
- There can be no trains between Central London and Ebbsfleet International, as the tunnel is flooded and can’t be used.
- Rail replacement buses would be difficult to organise at such short notice.
- I doubt rail replacement buses could be run from St. Pancras station, as traffic is generally solid in the area of the station at all times.
The nearest station to Ebbsfleet International is Northfleet station, which has four trains per hour (tph) to and from London; two each to St. Pancras and Charing Cross.
I have walked between Ebbsfleet International and Northfleet stations, but in times of disruption, I’m sure buses operating a shuttle would be better.
The Wikipedia entry for Northfleet station, explains, why the pedestrian link has not been built, in this paragraph.
The station is very close to Ebbsfleet International station (the NNE entrance is only 334 yards (305 m) from Northfleet’s station), but passengers (using public transport) will find it far easier to access Ebbsfleet International from Gravesend or Greenhithe, as these stations are more accessible and offer easy access to Fastrack bus services. The walking route between the two stations is 0.6 miles (1 km) or 0.8 miles (1.3 km) and a suitable pedestrian link has not been built because of funding issues and objections from Land Securities.
Perhaps after the pantomime this Christmas, the connection will be improved.
So4’s Law will probably mean, that if it is built, it will only be used by travellers and those working at Ebbsfleet International station for whom it is more convenient.
Could A Mega-Station Be Built For The Channel Tunnel?
This article on Railway Gazette International, is entitled Start-Up Announces Amsterdam To London And Paris High Speed Train Ambitions.
It talks about how Dutch start-up; Heuro wants to run fifteen trains per day (tpg) between London and Amsterdam.
The article then has this paragraph, which details other operators, who are wanting to run services between London and the near Continent.
Heuro’s announcement comes after Spanish start-up Evolyn announced plans in October for a Paris – London service, while on November 11 British newspaper The Daily Telegraph reported that Sir Richard Branson and Phil Whittingham, former head of Virgin Trains and Avanti West Coast, were also drawing up plans to compete with Eurostar and had held discussions with infrastructure managers.
This leads me to the conclusion, that there will be a need for more capacity for trains and/or passengers at some time in the future.
- There are six International platforms at St. Panvcras International station, which can each probably handle four trains per hour (tph), so I suspect the station could handle 24 International tph.
- As a modern high speed train can carry over 500 passengers, that is 12000 passengers per hour.
- Visit St. Pancras station in the morning and it is often crammed with travellers coming from and going to Europe.
I suspect that the number of trains may not be a problem, but the number of passengers will.
We could always join Shengen, but then that would be an open door to all the would-be migrants to the UK.
This Google Map shows Stratford International station.
Stratford International station is in a soulless concrete cavern, that lies across the middle of the map.
In Platforms 1 And 4 At Stratford International Station, there are a lot of pictures of the station.
I think it would be extremely difficult to add extra platforms and passenger facilities to the station.
This Google Map shows Ebbsfleet International station.
Note.
- Ebbsfleet International station, with its two International and four domestic platforms is in the middle of the map.
- The station is surrounded by car parks with a total of 5,000 spaces.
- Northfleet station is in the North-East corner of the map.
There is a lot of land, without any buildings on it.
These are my thoughts.
Enough Extra Bay Platforms To Handle The Additional Trains
There would appear to be space for perhaps two bay platforms to terminate trains.
But would passengers we happy being dumped outside Central London?
Would An Elizabeth Line Extension To Ebbsfleet Be Needed?
There are various plans to link the Elizabeth Line tp Ebbsfleet International.
In Elizabeth Line To Ebbsfleet Extension Could Cost £3.2 Billion, I showed this map from the Abbeywood2Ebbsfleet consultation.
There doesn’t appear to be too much new infrastructure, except for a proper connection between Northfleet and Ebbsfleet stations. References on the Internet, say that the similar-sized Luton DART connection at Luton Airport, cost around £225 million.
The Elizabeth Line connects to the following.
- Bond Street
- Canary Wharf
- City of London
- Farringdon for Thameslink
- Heathrow Airport
- Old Oak Common for High Speed Two
- Liverpool Street station
- Oxford Street
- Paddington station
- Slough for Windsor
- Tottenham Court Road for the British Museum, Oxford Street, Soho, Theatreland and the Underground.
- West End of London
- Whitechapel for the Overground and Underground
For many people like me, the Elizabeth Line at Ebbsfleet will provide one of the quickest ways to get to and from European trains.
Ebbsfleet Has Space For A Bus Station
A bus station with comprehensive routes could be built at Ebbsfleet station, which I don’t think will be possible at St. Pancras.
It would also be possible to provide an easy route to Gatwick Airport along the M25.
Hotel Accommodation
This is surely necessary.
It would make an ideal base for tourists and business people, who wanted to visit several of the large cities connected to Ebbsfleet.
A Very Large Car Park
Consider.
- Heathrow Airport is looking at providing upwards of 50,000 car parking spaces.
- Some travellers are seriously allergic to public transport and will always use their car.
- Many travellers these days want to take a severely outside case with them, when they’re only having a weekend in Paris.
I feel that a mega-station for Europe will need upwards of 10,000 car parking spaces. All of them with vehicle-to-grid chargers.
A Very Large Storage Battery
According to this page on the E-on web site, the average size of the battery in an electric vehicle is 40 kWh.
If 5,000 car parking spaces were to be fitted with vehicle-to-grid charging (V2G), that would be 2 MWh of energy storage, that could be used by National Grid, to store surplus electricity.
Get V2G right and it could make a serious contribution to your parking costs.
Pictures Of Ebbsfleet Station
These are some pictures I took at Ebbsfleet station today.
Note.
- The station is a fairly boring concrete, glass and steel construction.
- The SouthEastern HighSpeed services also go to St. Pancras, so they don’t offer any different connectivity towards the capital.
In addition, the SouthEastern HighSpeed Class 395 trains aren’t step-free at the platforms, as these pictures shows.
As I came back into St. Pancras International station, staff were struggling to load a wheelchair onto a train using a ramp.
Would A Two-Station Solution Increase Capacity?
High Speed Rail lines have high capacity trains and there are examples of more than one station at the end of a route.
- The London end of High Speed Two will have stations at Old Oak Common and Euston.
- The Manchester end of High Speed Two will have stations at Manchester Airport and Manchester Piccadilly.
- The Edinburgh end of the East Coast Main Line has stations at Waverley and Haymarket.
- The Amsterdam end of Eurostar and Thalys has stations at Rotterdam, Schipol Airport and Amsterdam.
A selection of stations gives choice and convenience for travellers.
Conclusion
I believe that selective development of Ebbsfleet International station could be used to take the pressure away from St. Pancras International station.
These developments could include.
- A comprehensive bus station
- Elizabeth Line to Northfleet
- Hotel Accommodation
- Lots Of Car Parking
Could Manchester Airport Be Accessed From The West By A Tunnel Under The M56?
This OpenRailwayMap shows the railways of East London between Dalston Junction and Stratford International stations.
Note.
- Dalston Kingsland station is marked with an arrow in the West of the map.
- Stratford International station is marked by the blue lettering in the East of the map.
- The orange line between them is the North London Line.
- There are also two pink lines, which indicate High Speed One, which is dug several metres below the North London Line.
It can’t be much different to dig a high speed railway underneath a motorway. Has anybody done this?
This OpenRailwayMap shows the railways leading to Manchester Airport.
Note.
- Junctions 5 and 6 of the M56 motorway are on the Western edge of the Airport.
- The red tracks are the Styal Line.
- The mauve tracks are the Metrolink.
- It should be noted that railway lines pass under Heathrow Airport’s runways.
Point 4 makes me sure, that Manchester Airport can have a station connected to the West by a railway under the M56.
This OpenRailwayMap shows the railways around Weaver Junction on the West Coast Main Line, where the trains branch off to Liverpool.
Note.
- The West Coast Main Line goes down the Eastern side of the map.
- Warrington Bank Quay is the next station to the North.
- The Liverpool Branch goes off to the West.
- The M56 tuns diagonally across the map from the North-East corner crossing both both branches of the West Coast Main Line.
This Google Map shows where the M56 crosses over the West Coast Main Line to Warrington Bank Quay.
Note.
- The M56 motorway is obvious.
- The Eastbound motorway goes to Manchester Airport and Manchester.
- The junction is numbered 11.
- The railway runs down the Western side of the map.
I believe that it would be possible to connect a railway running East under the motorway to the West Coast Main Line.
This Google Map shows where the M56 crosses over the Liverpool branch of the West Coast Main Line.
Note.
- There is no motorway junction here.
- The North-East bound motorway goes to Manchester Airport and Manchester.
- The railway runs slightly diagonally across the bottom of the map.
- The Westbound railway goes to Runcorn and Liverpool.
- The Eastbound railway goes to Weaver Junction, Crewe and the South.
There would only need to be a connection between Liverpool and the railway under the motorway going to and from Manchester Airport.
I have some further thoughts and questions.
This Is Just My First Thought
I am happier about the connection to the Liverpool branch than the Northern connection.
But then I feel there are several routes at both junctions, some of which will take a wider route.
How Long Will The Tunnels Be?
Between Junctions 11 and 6 on the M56 is 16 miles.
At What Speed Would The Trains Run?
I suspect that once on the straight section between Junctions 11 and 6, speeds of up to 90 or 100 mph should be possible, but speeds would probably be lower at the junctions to the West Coast Main Line.
How Would It Connect To Manchester Piccadilly?
The tunnel would continue the other side of the Airport and it’s a further 9.4 miles to under Manchester Piccadilly.
In The Rival Plans For Piccadilly Station, That Architects Say Will ‘Save Millions’, I wrote about Weston Williamson’s plan for Manchester Piccadilly station.
This was their visualisation.
Note.
- In the visualisation, you are observing the station from the East.
- The existing railway lines into Piccadilly station are shown in red.
- Stockport and Manchester Airport are to the left, which is to the South.
- Note the dreaded Castlefield Corridor in red going off into the distance to Oxford Road and Deansgate stations.
- The new high speed lines are shown in blue.
- To the left they go to Manchester Airport and then on to London, Birmingham and the South, Warrington and Liverpool and Wigan, Preston, Blackpool, Barrow-in-Furness, the North and Scotland.
- To the right, they go to Huddersfield, Bradford, Leeds, Hull and the North East, and Sheffield, Doncaster and the East.
- Between it looks like a low-level High Speed station with at least four tracks and six platforms.
- The high speed lines could be oriented so they ran East-West, rather than North-South in this visualisation.
- The Manchester Metrolink is shown in yellow.
The potential for over-site development is immense. If the Station Square Tower was residential, the penthouses would be some of the most desirable places to live in the North.
Onward From Manchester Piccadilly
I would hope that a connection could be made to the Huddersfield Line to the East of Manchester Piccadilly station, so that trains could use the TransPennine Upgrade all the way to Leeds.
National Express Owner Plans To Launch Eurostar Rival
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on the Financial Times.
I have documented a few attempts to start a competitor to Eurostar.
- Express London-Amsterdam Eurostar Service Being Explored
- Getlink Pushes Budget Train Service Between London And Paris To Rival Eurostar
- RENFE Aims To Compete With Eurostar On Paris – London Route
- Transmanche Metro
- The Wikipedia entry for Eurostar details German and Italian attempts to start a service.
Note.
- None of the proposals seem to have got past being announced.
- The only useful fact given in the article, is that the service will be called Evolyn.
Searches of the Internet reveal virtually no more facts, rehashes of the FT article and a lot of waffle.
These are my thoughts.
Would Eurostar Give Up And Slots At St. Pancras International?
I use slots deliberately, as British Airways don’t seem keen to ever give up slots at Heathrow or Gatwick.
And I suspect Eurostar would be the same!
St. Pancras International Doesn’t Have Enough Space
This article on Kent & Surrey Bylines, which is entitled Why Are There Such Queues At St Pancras For Eurostar?, is typical of many you can find on the Internet.
This is the sub-heading.
Eurostar no longer stops at Ebbsfleet or Ashford International, and the queues at St Pancras are becoming intolerable
This is the first paragraph.
Passengers are complaining. The queues at St Pancras are now intolerable. The lines stretch back into the main hall. It is like an airport with the slow shuffle towards the security kiosks. Then, once you are through that, you go to the departure lounge. However, there is not enough seating for the waiting passengers (see picture above taken this month). Because you have to check in 90 minutes before the train starts, one can be stuck standing in this waiting room for an hour. Unless, that is, one is white-haired and venerable, in which case one is usually offered a seat by someone younger and fitter.
It was written on the 9th of last month. But the problems have been bad for some years, as St. Pancras station is too small.
Could Ashford International Station Be Used As A Terminal?
The station has platforms on High Speed One, but the Financial Times says the service will be run between London and Paris.
I doubt even Ryanair would stretch it to say that Ashford was in London.
Could Ebbsfleet International Station Be Used As A Terminal?
It might be possible to say that Ebbsfleet was in London, but then it is not well-connected to Central London.
Does That leave Just Stratford International?
In Platforms 1 And 4 At Stratford International Station, I came to this conclusion.
I have come to these conclusions about Platforms 1 And 4 at Stratford International station.
- The platforms are designed to take the longest Eurostar trains.
- The access to Platforms 1 And 4, doesn’t appear to be designed for continuous heavy use.
- The diamond crossover at the Eastern end of the station would allow Stratford International station to be used as an emergency terminus.
The track layout at the London end of High Speed One appears to have been designed for all eventualities.
But I suspect that Stratford International station will need a lot of money spent to provide Customs and Immigration facilities.
Could Victoria Station Be Used As A Terminal?
National Express is primarily a coach company, so could they be planning a service to connect the long distance coach networks of London and Paris?
This OpenRailwayMap shows the link between High Speed One and the Chatham Main Line.
Note.
- Ebbsfleet International and Northfleet stations are at the top of the map.
- High Speed One is the red line going through Ebbsfleet International station.
- The orange line going across the South-West corner of the map is the Chatham Main Line between Victoria station and Chatham.
- The Chatham Main Line is connected to High Speed One, by the Waterloo Connection or the Fawkham Junction Link.
This route was the original route for Eurostar to Waterloo.
But it could just as easily go into Victoria.
- Southeastern’s Victoria and Dover service takes this route.
- The distance between Victoria and Fawkham junction is 22.6 miles.
- Trains take 28 minutes with a stop at Bromley.
- I wrote some more about the Fawkham Junction Link in Kent On The Cusp Of Change – Fawkham Junction Link.
- I also wrote some more about Victoria as a High Speed terminal in Kent On The Cusp Of Change – Victoria As A Highspeed Terminal.
Note that the two Kent On The Cusp Of Change posts were based on an article in the July 2017 Edition of Modern Railways.
I am convinced that Victoria could be used as a terminal for Continental trains.
Where Would The Service Terminate In France?
Everything I said about congestion also applies to Gare Du Nord, so would it be better to use Marne-la-Vallée–Chessy station that serves Disneyland Paris and Charles de Gaulle Airport, which used to be used by Eurostar.
There are certainly possibilities to do something different.
What Trains Would Be Needed?
The FT article says that the consortium have talked to Alstom, who build the Class 373 trains.
The trains would probably need a specification like this.
- Maximum speed of at least 200 mph, like Eurostar’s Class 374 trains.
- Ability to run on tracks with a UK loading gauge.
- Ability to use both 750 VDC third rail and 25 KVAC overhead electrification.
- Less than 240 metres long, which are the platform lengths at Victoria.
Would a High Speed Two Classic-Compatible Train be suitable?
- The trains will have a maximum speed of 224 mph.
- It has been designed for a UK loading gauge.
- The two partners in these trains; Alstom and Hitachi, have both built high speed trains capable of running at slower speeds using third rail electrification.
- The standard length of the trains are 200 metres.
I suspect they would do nicely.
Conclusion
I suspect that the National Express service could use High Speed Two Classic-Compatible Trains between Victoria and Marne-la-Vallée–Chessy stations.
- The trains would be standard with the ability to use third rail electrification
- They would use a single International platform at Victoria and Marne-la-Vallée–Chessy.
- Victoria station is well-connected to the Underground.
- Marne-la-Vallée–Chessy station is connected to Charles de Gaulle airport and Disneyland Paris.
I feel that there is a feasible service that can be designed.
Platforms 1 And 4 At Stratford International Station
This map from OpenRailwayMap shows the tracks through Stratford International station.
The tracks starting from the North side of the station are as follows.
- Platform 1 – Not used by normal services – Shown in black
- Fast Line for Eastbound through trains – Shown in red
- Platform 2 – Used by Eastbound stopping services – Shown in black
- Platform 3 – Used by Westbound stopping services – Shown in black
- Fast Line for Westbound through trains – Shown in red
- Platform 4 – Not used by normal services – Shown in black
Note.
- There are three Eastbound tracks, that connect together into a single track from St. Pancras and a single track to Ebbsfleet International station.
- An Eastbound train can use any of the three Northernmost tracks to pass though Stratford International station.
- There are three Westbound tracks, that connect together into a single track to St. Pancras and a single track from Ebbsfleet International station.
- A Westbound train can use any of the three Southernmost tracks to pass though Stratford International station.
- As Eurostar trains aren’t scheduled to stop at Stratford International station, they would normally take the fast lines through the station.
- Southeastern HighSpeed services usually stop in Platforms 2 or 3, as they pass through the station.
- There is a diamond crossover at the eastern end of the station.
It would appear that under normal circumstances Platforms 1 and 4 are not used.
These pictures show Platforms 1 and 4 at Stratford International station.
Note.
- Both Platforms 1 and 4 appear to have stairs, an escalator and a lift.
- I left from Platform 2, in a pair of Class 395 trains, which would have been 244 metres long.
- From the OpenRailwayMap, Platforms 1 and 4, appear to be longer than Platforms 2 and 3.
As Eurostar’s Class 374 trains are 390 metres long, it looks like Platforms 1 and 4 are designed to be able to handle these trains.
The Diamond Crossover At Stratford International Station
The diamond crossover at the Eastern end of the station could be used for unusual or occasional train movements.
- It could allow services to use St. Pancras station, when there was an inconvenient points failure.
- It might also allow a train to terminate before returning to the East in either Platform 1 or 4.
It could even allow Stratford International station to be used as a terminus during emergencies or engineering works.
An Escalator Problem At Stratford International Station
There was an escalator problem At Stratford International station today, which meant I had to walk down to the platform.
I took these pictures.
After walking down, I am fairly sure, that these stairs, which appear to be identical to those on Platforms 1 and 4, are for occasional use only.
Conclusion
I have come to these conclusions about Platforms 1 And 4 at Stratford International station.
- The platforms are designed to take the longest Eurostar trains.
- The access to Platforms 1 And 4, doesn’t appear to be designed for continuous heavy use.
- The diamond crossover at the Eastern end of the station would allow Stratford International station to be used as an emergency terminus.
The track layout at the London end of High Speed One appears to have been designed for all eventualities.
Extending The Elizabeth Line – Connecting West Anglia Main Line Services To The Central Tunnel
If say it was ever needed to run a train between Cambridge or Stansted stations and the Central Tunnel of the Elizabeth Line, three things must be possible.
Trains Would Have To Be Compatible With The Central Tunnel Of The Elizabeth Line
As any train would have to be compatible with the platform-edge doors in the central tunnel of the Elizabeth Line, the trains would have to be dimensionally identical to the current Class 345 trains.
- Nine cars
- Possibility of lengthening to ten cars.
- 204.73 metres long.
- 6 sets of doors per carriage
- Ability to run under full digital signalling.
I covered this in detail in Extending The Elizabeth Line – High Speed Trains On The Elizabeth Line.
Trains Would Need A 100 mph Capability To Travel On The Fast Lines Of The West Anglia Main Line
They would be designed for a higher speed of at least 100 mph, to enable running on the fast lines.
The faster running would ease scheduling of the trains.
Effectively, the train would be a Class 345 train with more features and considerably more grunt.
Trains Must Be Able To Connect Between The West Anglia Main Line And The Central Tunnel Of The Elizabeth Line At Stratford
This map from cartometro.com shows the track layout at Stratford.
Note.
- The Elizabeth Line is shown in black and purple.
- The Elizabeth Line enters and leaves the Central Tunnel at the Pudding Mill Lane Portal Eye.
- The West Anglia Main Line to and from Stansted and Cambridge goes through Platforms 11 and 12 at Stratford station, before crossing over Stratford International station and going through Olympic Park Junction.
I am fairly sure that the track layout at Stratford does not allow trains to go both ways between West Anglia Main Line and the Elizabeth Line Central Tunnel.
But I suspect with the addition of a couple of extra crossovers, that this could be arranged.
Extending The Elizabeth Line – Connection To Southeastern High Speed One Services
The Two Stratford Stations
In this post, Stratford station is the station handling Greater Anglia and London Overground, Underground and Docklands Light Railway services, with Stratford International station handles High Speed services.
The Elizabeth Line And The Great Western Railway Services
One of the most important stations on the Elizabeth Line is Paddington, where it connects to the London terminus of the Great Western Railway.
I would expect that quite a few passengers going to the West and Wales on the Great Western Railway, will be transported to Paddington by the Elizabeth Line.
The Elizabeth Line And Greater Anglia Services
Another of the important stations on the Elizabeth Line is Liverpool Street, where the station is the London terminus of the Greater Anglia.
I would expect that quite a few passengers going to East Anglia on the Greater Anglia, will be transported to Liverpool Street by the Elizabeth Line.
Southeastern High Speed One Services
Southeastern runs some High Speed services on High Speed One to provide Kent with an improved service to London.
Current services are
- London St Pancras International to Ramsgate via Faversham.
- London St Pancras International to Ramsgate via Dover Priory.
- London St Pancras International to Margate via Canterbury West.
Note
- All trains are one train per hour (tph).
- All trains stop at Stratford International and Ebbsfleet International.
- All trains are run by 140 mph Class 395 trains.
There has also been talk of running a fourth service to Hastings and Eastbourne via Stratford International, Ebbsfleet International and Ashford International.
St. Pancras Station
All of these trains terminate in three platforms; 11 to 13 at St. Pancras International station.
St. Pancras is not the ideal terminal for the Southeastern High Speed services.
- St. Pancras is not on the Elizabeth Line.
- St.Pancras doesn’t have good connections to Heathrow.
- All connections to the Underground are a long walk.
- Eurostar services are a longer walk.
- East Midland services are also a longer route, with stairs and escalators for good measure.
St. Pancras station was designed by a committee, as a museum to Victorian architecture, rather than as a working station.
Ebbsfleet International Station Must Be The Largest Parkway Station In The UK
It holds nearly five thousand cars and it is served by Southeastern High Speed Services.
Thanet Parkway Station Will Open This Year
Thanet Parkway station is under construction.
- It will have nearly three hundred parking spaces.
- It will be served by Southeastern High Speed Services.
- It should open in May 2023.
This station will need a good connection to London.
Could An Interchange Between The Elizabeth Line And Southeastern High Speed Services Be Provided At Stratford?
Such an alternative interchange would be popular with passengers.
- The Elizabeth Line from Stratford currently serves the West End, the Northern section of the City of London, East London, Liverpool Street, Paddington and the West End directly.
- The Elizabeth Line from Stratford currently serves Canary Wharf, Cannon Street, Charing Cross, Euston, Heathrow, King’s Cross. Reading, St. Pancras and Victoria with a change at Whitechapel.
- The Central Line, which shares platforms with the Elizabeth Line serves Bank and the West End directly.
- The Overground is easily accessed for travel across North London to Richmond.
- The Jubilee Line is easily accessed for travel to London Bridge, Waterloo and Westminster.
It would be connected to two large parkway stations and lots of parking all over Kent.
I believe that Stratford must be promoted as an alternative terminus for Southeastern High Speed Services.
Today, I walked both ways between two Stratford stations.
These pictures show the route I took between Stratford and Stratford International stations, through the Eastfield Shopping Centre.
Note.
- I went through the Shopping Centre.
- I passed Marks & Spencer’s large food hall, excellent toilets and a Food Court.
- By the Food Court is an exit that leads to an entrance to Stratford International station.
- The walk took about 10 minutes.
- It was vaguely level.
- Lifts by-passed the escalators.
- One thing that makes the journey to London easier, is to travel in the Eastern end of the train, as the lifts and escalators at Stratford International station, are at that end.
It does need some better signage, but they were doing a bit of refurbishment, so that may already be underway.
It could be a very high quality interchange and it is already better than St. Pancras.
Coming back I took the longer route outside the Shopping Centre.
Note.
- I just turned left out of the entrance, walked along the road and turned right past the bus station.
- If the weather had been colder or wetter, I’d have gone back via the Shopping Centre.
- The walk took about 12 minutes.
I think normally, I’d go back through the Shopping Centre, as there’s a Marks and Spencer Food Hall on the route and it’s slightly quicker and often warmer.
Could Stratford Station Be A London Superhub Station?
When you consider the stations connected to Stratford in London, East Anglia and Kent, it has an excellent collection.
- Airports – Gatwick, Heathrow, Luton, Southend and Stansted
- Cities – Cambridge, Canterbury, Chelmsford, Colchester, Ipswich, Norwich and Southend-on-Sea
- London Main and Terminal Stations – Cannon Street, Charing Cross, Clapham Junction, Euston, Farringdon, King’s Cross, London Bridge, Liverpool Street, Marylebone, Moorgate, Paddington, Victoria and Waterloo
- Major Areas – Canary Wharf, City of London, Hampstead, Olympic Park and West End
- Ports – Dover, Felixstowe, Folkestone and Harwich
You can even get a train to Slough, with a change at Whitechapel.
I would think it already is a London Superhub Station.
The Anonymous Widower 