Could Doncaster Sheffield Airport Become A Hydrogen Airport?
I asked Google AI, what is the current status of Doncaster Sheffield Airport and received this reply.
Doncaster Sheffield Airport (DSA) is currently in a state of active, public-funded redevelopment after closing in late 2022 due to financial issues, with plans to reopen for passenger flights by late 2027 or 2028, following significant funding (around £160m) secured by the South Yorkshire Mayoral Combined Authority (SYMCA) for the City of Doncaster Council to take over operations and rebuild commercial viability, with freight and general aviation potentially returning sooner.
This Google Map shows the location of the airport.
Note.
- The distinctive mouth of the River Humber can be picked out towards the North-East corner of the map.
- Hull and Grimsby sit in the mouth of the Humber.
- The red arrow indicates Doncaster Sheffield Airport.
- Leeds is in the North-West corner of the map.
- The towns and city of Doncaster, Rotherham and Sheffield can be picked out to the West of the airport.
This second Google Map shows a close-up of the airport.
On my visit to NASA in the 1980s, where an Artemis system was used to project manage the turnround of the Space Shuttle, I was asked questions by one of NASA’s support people about RAF Finningley. Nothing too technical, but things like what is Doncaster like.
When I asked why, they said there’s a high chance that a Space Shuttle could land at RAF Finningley, as it has one of the best runways for a very heavy aircraft in Europe.
Looking at the runway, it is a long and wide runway that was built for heavy RAF nuclear bombers like Valiants, Victors and Vulcans.
I believe that we will eventually see hydrogen- and/or nuclear-powered airliners flying very long routes across the globe, just as a nuclear-powered example, attempted to do in the first episode of the TV series Thunderbirds, which was called Trapped in the Sky and has this Wikipedia entry.
Just as the Space Shuttle did, these airliners and their air-cargo siblings will need a large runway.
Doncaster Sheffield Airport already has such a runway.
These hydrogen- and nuclear-powered aircraft will make Airbus A 380s look small and will need runways like the one at Finningley.
But I don’t think we’ll ever see nuclear-powered aircraft in the near future, so the aircraft will likely be hydrogen.
Other things in favour of making Doncaster Sheffield Airport, an airport for long range hydrogen aircraft include.
- The airport is close to the massive hydrogen production and storage facilities being developed on Humberside at Aldbrough and Rough.
- The airport could be connected to the Sheffield Supertram.
- The airport could be connected to the trains at Doncaster station, which has 173 express trains per day to all over the country.
- The airport would fit well with my thoughts on hydrogen-powered coaches, that I wrote about inFirstGroup Adds Leeds-based J&B Travel To Growing Coach Portfolio
- The airport might even be able to accept the next generation of supersonic aircraft.
- The airport could certainly accept the largest hydrogen-powered cargo aircraft.
- The Airport isn’t far from Doncaster iPort railfreight terminal.
Did I read too much science fiction?
I have some further thoughts.
Do Electric Aircraft Have A Future?
I asked Google AI this question and received this answer.
Yes, electric aircraft absolutely have a future, especially for short-haul, regional, and urban air mobility (UAM), promising quieter, zero-emission flights, but battery limitations mean long-haul flights will rely more on hydrogen-electric or Sustainable Aviation Fuels (SAF) for the foreseeable future. Expect to see battery-electric planes for shorter trips by the late 2020s, while hybrid or hydrogen solutions tackle longer distances, with a significant shift towards alternative propulsion by 2050.
That doesn’t seem very promising, so I asked Google AI what range can be elected from electric aircraft by 2035 and received this answer.
By 2035, fully electric aircraft ranges are expected to be around 200-400 km (125-250 miles) for small commuter planes, while hybrid-electric models could reach 800-1,000 km (500-620 miles), focusing on short-haul routes due to battery limitations; larger, long-range electric flight remains decades away, with hydrogen propulsion targeting 1,000-2,000 km ranges for that timeframe.
Note.
- I doubt that many prospective passengers would want to use small commuter planes for up to 250 miles from Doncaster Sheffield airport with hundreds of express trains per day going all over the UK mainland from Doncaster station.
- But Belfast City (212 miles), Dublin (215 miles) and Ostend (227 miles), Ronaldsway on the Isle of Man (154 miles) and Rotterdam(251 miles) and Schipol 340 miles) may be another matter, as there is water to cross.
It looks like it will be after 2035 before zero-carbon aircraft will be travelling further than 620 miles.
My bets would be on these aircraft being hydrogen hybrid aircraft.
What Will The Range Of Hydrogen-Powered Aircraft In 2040?
I asked Google AI this question and received this answer.
By 2040, hydrogen-powered commercial aircraft are projected to have a range that covers short- to medium-haul flights, likely up to 7,000 kilometers (approximately 3,780 nautical miles), with some models potentially achieving longer ranges as technology and infrastructure mature.
The range of these aircraft will vary depending on the specific technology used (hydrogen fuel cells versus hydrogen combustion in modified gas turbines) and aircraft size.
It looks like we’ll be getting there.
This Wikipedia entry is a list of large aircraft and there are some very large aircraft, like the Antonov An-225, which was destroyed in the Ukraine War.
A future long-range hydrogen-powered airline must be able to match the range of current aircraft that will need to be replaced.
I asked Google AI what airliner has the longest range and received this reply.
The longest-range airliner in service is the Airbus A350-900ULR (Ultra Long Range), specifically configured for airlines like Singapore Airlines to fly extremely long distances, reaching around 9,700 nautical miles (18,000 km) for routes like Singapore to New York. While the A350-900ULR holds records for current operations, the upcoming Boeing 777-8X aims to compete, and the Boeing 777-200LR was previously known for its exceptional range.
I believe that based on the technology of current successful aircraft, that an aircraft could be built, that would be able to have the required range and payload to be economic, with the first version probably being a high-capacity cargo version.
What Would An Ultra Long Range Hydrogen-Powered Airliner Look Like?
Whatever the aircraft looks like it will need to be powered. Rolls-Royce, appear to be destining a future turbofan for aircraft called the Ultrafan, which has this Wikipedia entry.
I asked Google AI, if Rolls-Royce will produce an Ultrafan for hydrogen and received this answer.
Rolls-Royce is actively developing the UltraFan architecture to be compatible with hydrogen fuel in the future, but the current UltraFan demonstrator runs on Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF). The company has a research program dedicated to developing hydrogen-powered engines for future aircraft, aiming for entry into service in the mid-2030s.
I asked Google AI, if Rolls-Royce have had major difficulties converting engines to hydrogen and received this answer.
Rolls-Royce has not encountered insurmountable difficulties but faces significant engineering and logistical challenges in converting engines to run on hydrogen. The company has made substantial progress in testing both stationary and aero engines using pure hydrogen, confirming its technical feasibility.
Given the company’s success in developing engines in the past, like the R Type, Merlin, RB 211, Pegasus, Trent, mtu 4000 and others, I suspect there’s a high chance of a successful hydrogen-powered Ultrafan.
If you look at a history of large passenger and cargo aircraft over the last sixty years, there has been a lot of the following.
- Conversion of one type of aircraft to a totally different type.
- Fitting new engines to a particular type.
- Fitting new avionics to a particular type.
Examples include.
- Fitting new CFM-56 engines to DC-8s.
- The first two Nimrods were converted from unsold Comet 4Cs.
- Converting Victor bombers to RAF tanker aircraft.
- Converting BA Tristars to RAF tanker aircraft.
- Converting DC-8s to cargo aircraft.
- Airbus converted five Airbus A 300-600 into Belugas, which have this Wikipedia entry.
- Airbus converted six Airbus A 330-200F into BelugaXLs, which have this Wikipedia entry.
- Converting two Boeing-747s to carry Space Shuttles ; one from American Airlines and one from Japan Airlines, which have this Wikipedia entry.
Note.
- Most of these examples have been successful.
- The last three examples have been very successful.
- Most of these applications do not have a human cargo.
This picture shows an Emirates Air Lines’s Airbus A 380 on finals at Heathrow.
Note.
- The aircraft was landing on Runway 27 L.
- The four engines and the vertical oval cross-section of the fuselage are clearly visible.
- The Wikipedia entry for the Airbus A 380 shows two floors across the fuselage; the upper floor with eight seats in 2-4-2 and the lower floor with ten seats in 3-4-3, and a pair of LD3 cargo containers in the basement.
I’d be interested to know, how much hydrogen could be put in the basement and how far it could take the plane with a full load of passengers!
This link to the Wikipedia entry, shows the cross section in detail.
Note
I wouldn’t be surprised that the first application of large hydrogen aircraft will be for cargo and it could be an Airbus Beluga or perhaps an Airbus A 380 freighter?
UK Economy To Reap GBP 6.1 Billion From 3.6 GW Dogger Bank Offshore Wind Farm
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on offshoreWIND.biz.
This is the sub-heading.
The 3.6 GW Dogger Bank Wind Farm, which will become the world’s largest offshore wind farm once fully operational, will boost the UK economy by GBP 6.1 billion (approximately EUR 6.9 billion) during its lifetime and support thousands of UK jobs over the next decade, according to a report written by BVG Associates.
The first three phases of the Dogger Bank wind farm are scheduled to be delivered as follows.
- Dogger Bank A – 1235 MW – 2025
- Dogger Bank B – 1235 MW – 2026
- Dogger Bank C – 1218 MW – 2027
The planned dates in the North Sea are generally kept, because we’ve been building structures there since the days of World War Two.
These two paragraphs from the article add more detail.
The economic impact report was commissioned by Dogger Bank Wind Farm’s equity partners SSE, Equinor and Vårgrønn, who are currently constructing the offshore wind farm in three 1.2 GW phases at adjoining sites in the North Sea, more than 130 kilometres from the Yorkshire Coast.
Direct spend with companies in the Northeast of England and in the counties of North Yorkshire and the East Riding of Yorkshire is expected to total over GBP 3 billion, with hundreds of jobs supported in these regions.
But these three wind farms are just the hors d’oeuvre.
This article on offshoreWIND.biz is entitled SSE, Equinor Move Forward with 1.5 GW Dogger Bank D Project and it has this sub-heading.
SSE and Equinor have finalised a seabed lease with the Crown Estate to progress Dogger Bank D, the proposed fourth phase of the world’s largest offshore wind farm, the 3.6 GW Dogger Bank Wind Farm, currently under construction off the coast of England in the North Sea.
These two paragraphs from the article add more detail.
The lease allows Dogger Bank D shareholders to maximise renewable generation from the eastern part of the Dogger Bank C seabed area, located around 210 kilometres off the Yorkshire coast, with future potential to unlock an additional 1.5 GW.
SSE Renewables and Equinor previously established terms for the wind farm with the Crown Estate in July 2024. Implementation of these commercial terms was subject to the conclusion earlier this year of the plan-level Habitats Regulation Assessment (HRA) associated with the Crown Estate’s wider Capacity Increase Programme.
Note.
- The total capacity for the first four phases of the Dogger Bank Wind Farm are 5,188 MW.
- But if the Crown Estate’s wider Capacity Increase Programme is carried out, the total capacity will be 6,688 MW.
- Hinckley Point C is planned to be only 3,260 MW and is likely to be fully delivered between 2029 and 2031.
So if the Crown Estate, Equinor and SSE go for the full Dogger Bank D, I believe it is likely that we’ll get a wind farm with a capacity of two Hinckley Point Cs delivered before the nuclear power station.
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Battery Energy Storage Park Plans Submitted
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on the BBC.
This is the sub-heading.
A green energy company has pledged to fund up to £40m worth of community projects if a controversial battery energy storage system (BESS) in the North Yorkshire countryside goes ahead.
These three paragraphs fill out the story.
NatPower has submitted a planning application to North Yorkshire Council for the site on farmland near Thirsk.
If approved, the company said it would contribute up to £1m each year for 40 years to local businesses, charities and groups to develop “sustainable communities”.
However, campaign group Thirsk Against Battery Storage (TABS) said local residents remained opposed to the scheme.
If the developers of the BESS can afford to give forty million pounds to the community, there must be substantial sums to be made out of installing batteries like these.
I certainly believe that with the current government’s more relaxed attitude to renewable energy developments in the countryside, that we’ll see more batteries, solar panels and wind turbines on hill tops and behind barns band woods.
More and more bigger houses and small businesses will install solar panels, smaller wind turbines and batteries and find they can be independent of the grid.
Hydrogen Start-Up Can Expand Thanks To Northern Powerhouse Fund
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article in The Times.
This is the sub-heading.
Suiso’s technology for extracting clean fuel has been found to produce lower emissions and use less energy than common alternatives
These three paragraphs describe the finances and outline the their hydrogen generator.
Suiso, a South Yorkshire-based company developing a hydrogen generator, has raised £3 million from the Northern Powerhouse Investment Fund (NPIF).
The company plans to create generators as big as shipping containers that could power factories, hospitals and warehouses or be used at filling stations to fuel hydrogen-powered vehicles.
The new funds come from the asset manager Mercia’s equity finance fund, which is part of the NPIF, and Mercia’s enterprise investment scheme.
This paragraph describes the technology.
Suiso uses novel microwave technology to extract hydrogen from natural gas or biogas, capturing the carbon in the form of carbon black, which can be used to make tyres, batteries and inks. In 2023 the company was one of the winners of a government competition to provide technology to supply hydrogen energy.
These are my thoughts.
Suiso And HiiROC
Suiso are taking a similar route to HiiROC.
- The base feedstock is natural gas, which is mainly methane or CH4, with four planet-saving hydrogen atoms and a very naughty carbon one.
- Clever technology is then applied to the methane atoms and the carbon atom doesn’t like it, so they let go of the hydrogen atoms.
- It is then a matter of physically separating the carbon black from the hydrogen.
The difference between the two processes is that Suiso use microwave technology and HiiROC use plasma technology.
HiiROC claim their process will work with any hydrocarbon gas from biomethane through off-gas from a chemical plant to natural gas.
So I suspect, that as Suiso says it will work with biomethane, both technologies will work with virtually any hydrocarbon gas.
Uses Of Carbon Black
This Wikipedia entry gives a lot of information on carbon black.
There is a section, which is entitled Common Uses, where this is said.
The most common use (70%) of carbon black is as a pigment and reinforcing phase in automobile tires. Carbon black also helps conduct heat away from the tread and belt area of the tire, reducing thermal damage and increasing tire life. Its low cost makes it a common addition to cathodes and anodes and is considered a safe replacement to lithium metal in lithium-ion batteries. About 20% of world production goes into belts, hoses, and other non-tire rubber goods. The remaining 10% use of carbon black comes from pigment in inks, coatings, and plastics, as well as being used as a conductive additive in lithium-ion batteries.
Carbon black is added to polypropylene because it absorbs ultraviolet radiation, which otherwise causes the material to degrade. Carbon black particles are also employed in some radar absorbent materials, in photocopier and laser printer toner, and in other inks and paints. The high tinting strength and stability of carbon black has also provided use in coloring of resins and films. Carbon black has been used in various applications for electronics. A good conductor of electricity, carbon black is used as a filler mixed in plastics, elastomer, films, adhesives, and paints. It is used as an antistatic additive agent in automobile fuel caps and pipes.
There is another section, which is entitled Use in Lithium-Ion Batteries, where this is said.
Carbon black is a common conductive additive for lithium ion batteries as they have small particle sizes and large specific surface areas (SSA) which allow for the additive to be well distributed throughout the cathode or anode in addition to being cheap and long-lasting. Unlike graphite, which is one of the other common materials used in chargeable batteries, carbon black consists of crystal lattices that are further apart and promotes Li+ intercalation because it allows more pathways for lithium storage.
Carbon black has a low density that allows for a large volume of it to be dispersed so that its conductive effects are applied evenly throughout the battery. Furthermore, its arrangement of randomly distributed graphite-like crystals improves battery stability because of the decrease in the potential barrier of lithium intercalation into graphite, which ultimately affects the performance of cathodes.
Carbon black does seem to be very useful.
Suiso’s Web Site
This is Suiso’s web site.
The page is headed About Us and this is said.
Suiso is a developer of a low energy near zero emission microwave-driven methane cracking process for onsite generation of Hydrogen.
Hydrogen, the most abundant element in the universe, is rapidly emerging as a sustainable solution for the decarbonisation of the economy and a key piece of the energy transition picture in UK, Europe and around the world.
The cost and practical issues with generating and distributing Hydrogen has held back its use in most economies. Suiso’s technology uses existing electrical, natural/bio gas assets and infrastructure to produce clean low cost hydrogen. By transforming stranded ‘brown’ assets into vital hydrogen infrastructure, Suiso helps reduce CO2 emissions and enables countries throughout the world to meet challenging greenhouse gas emissions targets, quickly and cost effectively.
Suiso’s technology allows its generating units to be positioned anywhere there is a supply of natural/bio gas and electricity. Being located at the point of use eliminates the costly distribution (by truck or pipe) of H2 to the customer – delivering significant cost reductions. This allows it to offer competitively priced H2 for small to medium sized applications in developed and developing countries., including:
- H2 Fueling stations
- Biomethane (H2) conversion/decarbonisation for grid injection
- Light industrial applications
- Domestic H2 supply for small communities/towns
- Demand management/System top up
- Emergency H2 supply
It will design, build and supply these generators directly or via licensees to markets throughout the world.
Conclusion
I like this company.
High Speed Yorkshire
In December 2019, I wrote Could High Speed Two Be A One-Nation Project?, which I started like this.
As currently envisioned, High Speed Two is very much an English project, with the following routes
- London and Birmingham
- London and Liverpool via Birmingham
- London and Manchester Airport/Manchester via Birmingham and Crewe
- London and Sheffield via Birmingham and the East Midlands Hub
- London and Leeds via Birmingham and the East Midlands Hub
There are large numbers of mid-sized towns and cities that it won’t serve directly.
This is what I said about the East Coast Main Line in the post.
The East Coast Main Line serves the following routes.
- London and Bradford
- London and Cambridge
- London and Edinburgh via Doncaster, York and Newcastle
- London and Harrogate via Leeds
- London and Hull
- London and Kings Lynn via Cambridge
- London and Lincoln via Newark.
- London and Leeds via Doncaster
- London and Middlesbrough
- London and Skipton via Leeds
- London and Sunderland
The East Coast Main Line could become another high speed line.
Extra services could be added.
- London and Norwich via Cambridge
- London and Nottingham
- London and Grimsby and Cleethorpes via Lincoln.
- London and Sheffield via Retford.
Add the East Coast Main Line and High Speed Two together and there could be a wider range of towns and cities served.
- Peterborough and Doncaster could play the same role in the East as Birmingham and Crewe will play in the West.
- The East Coast Main Line between London and Doncaster will be upgraded to in-cab ERTMS signalling in a few years time, which will allow 140 mph running on several sections of the route.
- Improvements are either under way or being planned to reduce bottlenecks on the East Coast Main Line.
- If High Speed Two can handle eighteen trains per hour (tph), then surely the East Coast Main Line, which has a lot of quadruple track, can handle upwards of twelve 140 mph trains per hour between London and Doncaster, after the improvements to track and signalling.
- I estimate that 140 mph running between London and Doncaster could save as much as twenty minutes.
- I feel that Barnsley, Doncaster, Hull, Leeds, Sheffield and York could all be reached in under two hours from London using the existing Azuma trains.
- This morning the 0700 from Kings Cross is timetabled to reach York at 0852. Would it be possible for London and York to be around just ninety minutes?
- Savings would also apply to trains between London and Leeds, Middlesbrough, Newcastle, Scotland and Sunderland.
- Sub-four hour journeys between London and Edinburgh would be commonplace.
Note that the Internet gives a driving time of nearly three and a half hours between London and Leeds. Surely, two hours or less on High Speed Yorkshire would be much preferable.
I would add this infrastructure.
- There might be a good case to create electrified routes to Hull and Sheffield and between Sheffield and Leeds, but they wouldn’t be needed to start the service or obtain the time savings. But they would ease operation, cut carbon emissions and save a few more minutes.
- A station at Doncaster-Sheffield Airport.
- A parkway station at Barnsley on the Dearne Valley Line with direct services to Doncaster, Leeds, London and Sheffield.
The two latter improvements have been proposed in Sheffield Region’s transport plans.
High Speed Yorkshire should be finished as soon as possible. A completion date of 2024 is not unreasonable.
This was the first time I used the term High Speed Yorkshire.
Benefits Of Digital Signalling On The East Coast Main Line
The obvious benefit is there will be 140 mph running on several stretches of the East Coast Main Line.
But as a Control Engineer, I believe that the digital signalling can be used to eliminate two major bottlenecks on the route.
- The Digswell Viaduct, which I wrote about in Is There An ERTMS-based Solution To The Digswell Viaduct?.
- The Newark Flat Crossing, which I wrote about in Could ERTMS And ETCS Solve The Newark Crossing Problem?.
Digital Signalling will also offer techniques to run more trains per hour on the route.
LNER Orders CAF Tri-Mode Sets
The title of this section, is the same as this article in the December 2023 Edition of Modern Railways, which has this paragraph.
Modern Railways understands the new fleet will be maintained at Neville Hill depot in Leeds and, like the ‘225’ sets, will be used predominantly on services between London and Yorkshire, although unlike the ‘225s’ the tri-modes, with their self-power capability, will be able to serve destinations away from the electrified network such as Harrogate and Hull.
Note.
- This surprised me, as I’d always expected the Yorkshire routes will be served by Hitachi battery-electric trains.
- But it does look that both Harrogate and Hull stations, have long enough platforms to hold a ten-car train.
- With their tri-mode technology, it also looks like the CAF trains won’t be needed to be charged before returning to London.
The last point would enable them to try out new routes.
But it does look like LNER are planning to strengthen their Yorkshire routes.
- Does Azuma Test Train Takes To The Tracks As LNER Trials Possible New Route, also mean that they’re looking at a service to Cleethorpes?
- The curtailment of High Speed Two was hard on Yorkshire.
- The Government has had time to get a verdict from experts on TransPennine Express.
It could just be that, it’s easier to sell rail tickets to Yorkshire folk, than Lancashire folk.
FirstGroup Applies To Run New London To Sheffield Rail Service
The title of this section, is the same as that of this press release from First Group.
These two paragraphs outline FirstGroup’s initial plans.
FirstGroup plc, the leading private sector transport operator, has today submitted the first phase of an application for a new open access rail service between London and Sheffield to the Office of Rail and Road (ORR).
FirstGroup plans to expand its open access rail operations as part of its award-winning Hull Trains business, building on their successful existing service which has transformed long-distance connectivity between Hull and London.
Note.
- FirstGroup want to run two trains per day (tpd) between London King’s Cross and Sheffield stations via Retford.
- Services will be non-stop between London King’s Cross and Retford.
- The service will be run by Hull Trains.
- I suspect that Hull Trains will use a fleet of identical Hitachi trains for both services.
- Hull Trains could decarbonise the services by using battery-electric trains.
- I believe a time of 82 minutes will be possible between London King’s Cross and Sheffield.
- High Speed Two were promising a time of 87 minutes for their route from London Euston via Birmingham and Nottingham.
I believe there could be up to seven tpd to both Hull and Sheffield.
Timings On High Speed Yorkshire
In FirstGroup Applies To Run New London To Sheffield Rail Service, I felt the following is possible, between London King’s Cross and Sheffield.
- After the digital signalling is completed between King’s Cross and Retford, I suspect that a 135 mph average speed can be maintained between Woolmer Green and Retford. This would mean that a King’s Cross and Retford time of 68 minutes would be possible.
- If Network Rail improve the track between Retford and Sheffield, I believe that a 70 mph average could be achieved on the Retford and Sheffield section. This would mean that a Retford and Sheffield time of 20 minutes would be possible.
- I would expect at least six minutes would be saved by missing stops.
This gives a time of 82 minutes between London King’s Cross and Sheffield.
I will use these timings to calculate other possible times.
- Current time between London King’s Cross and Retford – 82 minutes
- Digitally signalled average speed between Woolmer Green and Retford – 135 mph
- Digitally signalled time between London King’s Cross and Retford – 68 minutes
- Digitally signaled time between London King’s Cross and Sheffield – 82 minutes
These are my estimated timings from London King’s Cross.
Barnetby via Newark Northgate and Lincoln
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 114 minutes
Barnetby via Peterborough and Lincoln
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 128 minutes
Barnsley via Sheffield
Operator: Hull Trains
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 112 minutes
Note: Uses Penistone Line and Hull Trains times to Sheffield
Beverley
Operator: Hull Trains
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 101 minutes
Note: Uses Hull Trains times from Doncaster
Bradford Foster Square via Leeds
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 146 minutes
Note: Uses LNER times from Leeds
Bradford Interchange via Doncaster
Operator: Grand Central
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 166 minutes
Note: Uses Grand Central times from Doncaster
Brighouse via Doncaster
Operator: Grand Central
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 143 minutes
Note: Uses Grand Central times from Doncaster
Brough
Operator: Hull Trains
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 101 minutes
Note: Uses Hull Trains times from Doncaster
Cleethorpes via Newark Northgate and Lincoln
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 141 minutes
Cleethorpes via Peterborough and Lincoln
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 155 minutes
Darlington
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: Yes
High Speed Two time to/from London Euston: 116 minutes
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 127 minutes
Doncaster
Operator: Grand Cenreal, Hull Trains, LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 76 minutes
Durham
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: Yes
High Speed Two time to/from London Euston: 136 minutes
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 160 minutes
Eaglescliffe
Operator: Grand Central
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 155 minutes
Note: Uses Grand Central times from Northallerton
Edinburgh
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: Yes
High Speed Two time to/from London Euston: 220 minutes
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 234 minutes
Grantham
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 53 minutes
Grimsby Town via Newark Northgate and Lincoln
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 134 minutes
Grimsby Town via Peterborough and Lincoln
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 148 minutes
Halifax via Doncaster
Operator: Grand Central
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 153 minutes
Note: Uses Grand Central times from Doncaster
Harrogate
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 147 minutes
Note: Uses LNER times from Leeds
Hartlepool
Operator: Grand Central
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 175 minutes
Note: Uses Grand Central times from Northallerton
Horsforth
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 124 minutes
Note: Uses LNER times from Leeds
Huddersfield via Leeds
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 161 minutes
Note: Uses LNER times from Leeds
Huddersfield via Sheffield
Operator: Hull Trains
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 140 minutes
Note: Uses Penistone Line and Hull Trains times to Sheffield
Hull
Operator: Hull Trains
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 114 minutes
Note: Uses Hull Trains times from Doncaster
Keighley via Leeds
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 178 minutes
Note: Uses LNER times from Leeds
Leeds
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: Yes
High Speed Two time to/from London Euston: 81 minutes
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 116 minutes
Lincoln via Newark Northgate
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 85 minutes
Lincoln via Peterborough
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 99 minutes
Market Rasen via Newark Northgate and Lincoln
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 101 minutes
Market Rasen via Peterborough and Lincoln
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 115 minutes
Meadowhall via Sheffield
Operator: Hull Trains
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 90 minutes
Note: Uses Penistone Line and Hull Trains times to Sheffield
Middlesbrough
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 155 minutes
Mirfield via Doncaster
Operator: Grand Ccentral
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 136 minutes
Note: Uses Grand Central times from Doncaster
Newark Northgate
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 60 minutes
Newcastle
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: Yes
High Speed Two time to/from London Euston: 137 minutes
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 145 minutes
Northallerton
Operator: Grand Central, LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 126 minutes
Peterborough
Operator: Grand Central, LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 40 minutes
Pontefract Monkhill
Operator: Grand Central
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 103 minutes
Note: Uses Grand Central times from Doncaster
Retford
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 68 minutes
Selby
Operator: Hull Trains
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 92 minutes
Note: Uses Hull Trains times from Doncaster
Sheffield
Operator: Hull Trains
Served by High Speed Two: Yes
High Speed Two time to/from London Euston: 87 minutes
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 82 minutes
Shipley via Leeds
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 168 minutes
Note: Uses LNER times from Leeds
Skipton via Leeds
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 191 minutes
Note: Uses LNER times from Leeds
Sleaford
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 83 minutes
Spalding
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 61 minutes
Sunderland
Operator: Grand Central
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 194 minutes
Note: Uses Grand Central times from Northallerton
Thirsk
Operator: Grand Central
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 116 minutes
Note: Uses Grand Central times from Northallerton
Thornaby
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 146 minutes
Wakefield Kirkgate
Operator: Grand Central
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 118 minutes
Note: Uses Grand Central times from Doncaster
Wakefield Westgate
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 95 minutes
Worksop
Operator: Hull Trains
Served by High Speed Two: No
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 81 minutes
York
Operator: LNER
Served by High Speed Two: Yes
High Speed Two time to/from London Euston: 84 minutes
Time to/from London King’s Cross: 98 minutes
Note.
- Times have improved because of the digital signalling.
- As the digital signalling goes further North timings will will come down further.
- Unelectrified branches like those to Beverley, Cleethorpes, Grimsby, Harrogate, Huddersfield, Hull, Lincoln, Middlesbrough and Sheffield will be improved and further bring down times.
Sheffield could be as low as 80 minutes, with York at 91 minutes.
LNER’s New Sunday Timetable
LNER’s new Sunday timetable, that starts on the 10th December 2023 is now available to view on this page of the National Rail web site, where this is said.
Sundays are now one of the most popular days to travel on LNER’s network.
To support this increase in demand, LNER is introducing three additional Sunday services into its timetable starting in December 2023 – two (one each way) between Leeds and London Kings Cross and one between Doncaster and London.
There will also be more seats added to some trains with eight existing Sunday services becoming longer trains. The current five carriage services will be replaced with either nine or ten carriage Azuma trains for destinations including Leeds, Harrogate and Lincoln.
This equates to more than 3,000 additional seats on a Sunday and will help reduce overcrowding and increase connectivity for more people between Yorkshire and London.
To provide additional Sunday seating capacity, due to the lengthening of some London Kings Cross to Harrogate services on Sundays, two northbound station calls at Horsforth need to be removed on Sundays only. The impacted services are the 09.05 and 17:05 London Kings Cross to Harrogate trains.
Note.
- Horsforth looks to have short platforms.
- Last Sunday, Harrogate to London services were three nine-car and three five-car trains.
- In September 2023, I wrote Yorkshire To See More LNER Services And Longer Trains.
LNER certainly seem to be fulfilling the last promise.
Additionally, in this article on Modern Railways, which is entitled LNER Orders CAF Tri-mode Sets, this is said.
Modern Railways understands the new fleet will be maintained at Neville Hill depot in Leeds and, like the ‘225’ sets, will be used predominantly on services between London and Yorkshire, although unlike the ‘225s’ the tri-modes, with their self-power capability, will be able to serve destinations away from the electrified network such as Harrogate and Hull.
So are LNER gradually moving towards the new timetable they will use after the CAF tri-mode trains are delivered?
Yorkshire To See More LNER Services And Longer Trains
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on Rail UK.
These are the two introductory paragraphs.
London North Eastern Railway (LNER) is meeting an increase in demand from leisure travellers by adding more services and thousands more seats on trains between Yorkshire and London every Sunday.
Sundays are now one of the most popular days for journeys with 30% more customers travelling across the 956-mile LNER network than in 2019.
From December 2023, three new services and longer trains will be introduced on Sundays between London and Yorkshire.
Wrightbus: Ballymena Company Gets Order For 117 Buses
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on the BBC.
This is the sub-heading.
County Antrim firm Wrightbus has secured a £25.3m order to build 117 zero-emission buses for use in England
And this is the first paragraph.
Operated by First Bus, the vehicles will be used in Yorkshire, Norfolk, Portsmouth and Hampshire.
They don’t say, whether the buses are battery or hydrogen powered.




