Bristol Temple Meads Station – 28th July 2020
I took these pictures of Bristol Temple Meads station, when I visited.
Note.
- The station is Listed to the highest level of Grade 1.
- London services seem to use Platforms 15 and 16.
- There is quite a fair bit of space between the tracks.
.Do Network Rail need all the hassle of full electrification of one of Brunel’s most famous creations?
Bristol Temple Meads Station And Trains With a Battery Capability
Hitachi’s Class 800 train with a battery electric capability or Regional Battery Train, is described in this infographic from the company.
The proposed 90 km or 56 mile range would even be sufficient take a train between Chippenham and Bristol Temple Meads stations on a return trip. So this means that one of these trains could work the London Paddington and Bristol Temple Meads stations service via Bath Spa using the electrification between London Paddington and Chippenham stations.
But where could trains reach, if they were able to leave Bristol Temple Meads station with a fully-charged battery?
- Bristol Parkway – 6 miles
- Cardiff Central – 5 miles to the electrified Great Western Main Line.
- Cheltenham Spa – 41 miles
- Filton Abbey Wood – 4 miles
- Gloucester – 39 miles
- Newport – 5 miles to the electrified Great Western Main Line.
- Severn Beach – 13.5 miles
- Taunton – 45 miles
- Westbury – 28.5 miles
- Weston-super-Mare – 19 miles
Note.
- Return trips to Bristol Parkway, Filton Abbey Wood, Severn Beach and Western-super-Mare would be possible.
- The other destinations will need charging facilities.
Other local destinations could be added as the Bristol Metro develops.
This Google Map shows the station.
Note.
- The curving nature of the platforms doesn’t make 25 KVAC overhead electrification easy.
- Trains to and from London appear to use the two Eastern platforms 13 and 15.
- It might be possible to increase platform lengths to run longer trains to and from places like London.
I believe that there are three possible ways of charging the trains in Bristol Temple Meads station.
25 KVAC Overhead Electrification
This could be short length of standard 25 KVAC overhead electrification in platforms, that would be served by trains with pantographs like the Class 800 trains.
The driver would stop in the correct place in the platform and connect the pantograph, whilst waiting in the station.
Note that the Class 800 trains to and from London typically take 35-20 minutes to turn round, which is time enough for a full charge.
750 VDC Third-Rail Electrification
This could be short lengths of standard 750 VDC third-rail electrification in platforms, that would be used by standard third-rail shoes on trains.
The train would connect automatically and charging would take place, whilst waiting in the station.
A Specialist Charging Facility Like Vivarail’s Fast Charge System
Vivarail’s Fast Charge system is described in Vivarail Unveils Fast Charging System For Class 230 Battery Trains.
This extract from this Vivarail press release explains how the system works.
he concept is simple – at the terminus 4 short sections of 3rd and 4th rail are installed and connected to the electronic control unit and the battery bank. Whilst the train is in service the battery bank trickle charges itself from the national grid – the benefit of this is that there is a continuous low-level draw such as an EMU would use rather than a one-off huge demand for power.
The train pulls into the station as normal and the shoe-gear connects with the sections of charging rail. The driver need do nothing other than stop in the correct place as per normal and the rail is not live until the train is in place.
That’s it!
I believe that this system or something like it could be adapted to work with all trains with a battery capability in the UK.
I also believe that this system can be designed so that it is ultra-safe and doesn’t disrupt, the visual impact of the station.
Conclusion
Bristol Temple Meads station could be converted into a station, where a high proportion of trains ran solely on electricity.
Bath Spa Station – 28th July 2020
I took these pictures as I twice passed through Bath Spa station.
These are my thoughts.
Electrification Gantries On The Platforms
As somebody, whose eyesight is on the wane, I am not a lover of electrification, where the gantries are bolted to the platforms. These pictures show some installations of this type at Crouch Hill station.
Would electrification gantries like these, be appropriate in Bath Spa station?
Could Lightweight Electrification Gantries Be Placed Between The Tracks?
These pictures show the wide gap between the two tracks in Bath Spa station.
Could double-track lightweight structures, based on a design like this be placed between the tracks?
These structures are made out of laminated wood and are surely a possibility.
A Makeover For Bath Spa Station
If you look at much of the woodwork and paint in the fabric of the station, it appears tired and in need of refurbishment.
Whether the station is electrified or not, the station will need a high-class makeover.
Services Through Bath Spa Station
Three train companies run services through Bath Spa station.
- CrossCountry which only operates diesel trains.
- Great Western Railway operates Class 800 electro-diesel trains and some assorted diesel trains.
- South Western Railway only operates Class 159 diesel trains.
There are also some freight services hauled by diesel locomotives.
Trains leave Bath Spa station using one of three routes via either.
- Bristol Temple Meads station, which is 11.5 miles away without electrification.
- Chippenham station, which is where the electrification to London starts and is 13 miles away.
- Westbury station, which is on the Reading and Taunton Line and 17 miles away without electrification.
Most trains seem to go via Bristol Temple Meads station.
- The distance between Bristol Temple Meads and Chippenham stations are 24.5 miles.
- The distance between Bristol Temple Meads and Westbury stations are 28.5 miles.
Neither distance is that long.
An Alternative To Full Electrification
When I look at the distances between Bristol Temple Meads, Chippenham and Westbury stations, they tell me that they are within the range of Hitachi’s Class 800 train with a battery electric capability or Regional Battery Train, which is described in this infographic from the company.
The proposed 90 km or 56 mile range would even be sufficient take a train between Chippenham and Bristol Temple Meads stations on a return trip.
Notes for each station follow.
Bristol Temple Meads
Charging facilities would be needed.
Destinations in battery range would include.
- Bristol Parkway – 6 miles
- Cardiff Central – 5 miles to the electrified Great Western Main Line.
- Cheltenham Spa – 41 miles
- Gloucester – 39 miles
- Taunton – 45 miles
- Weston-super-Mare – 19 miles
Note.
- Return trips to Bristol Parkway and Western-super-Mare would be possible.
- The other destinations will need charging facilities.
Bristol Temple Meads station could become a major hub for battery trains.
All local services and all passing longer distance services could be trains with a battery capability.
I write more about Britol Temnple Meads station as a battery train hub in Bristol Temple Meads Station – 28th July 2020.
Chippenham
A train would leave Chippenham station with a full battery after charging on the fully-electrified route from London.
Chippenham and Weston-super-Mare would be in battery range with a charging facility at Weston-super-Mare station.
It should be noted that every extra mile of electrification past Chippenham, can be added to the distance electric trains with a battery capability can reach.
Westbury
Charging facilities would be needed.
Destinations in battery range would include.
- Salisbury – 24 miles.
- Southampton – 49 miles to the electrified South Western Main Line, at Southampton Central station.
- Weymouth – 53 miles to the electrified South Western Main Line at Dorchester Junction.
Note.
- A return trip to Salisbury would be possible.
- Trains would need to have the capability to access 750 VDC third-rail electrification.
- A few extra miles of electrification may make operation South from Westbury station easier, more reliable and allow more destinations to be included.
Westbury station could be a major hub for battery trains.
This Google Map shows Westbury station and the lines around it.
I would probably electrify a few miles either side of Westbury, so that passing trains could be in contact with the overhead wires for perhaps five to ten minutes and take a good long drink.
- Electrification could be either 25 KVAC overhead or 750 VDC overhead.
- Newbury, where the electrification to London starts is 42 miles away and trains can pick it up at speed.
- Taunton is 47 miles away and could be electrified to Exeter St. Davids.
Great Western Railway could run all their services between London Paddington and the South-West using Class 800 trains with a battery capability.
Conclusion
The prolitical, heritage and engineering problems of electrifying through Bath Spa station can be voided, by electrification and charging facilities at stations like Bristol Temple Meads, Taunton, Westbury and Weston-super-Mare.
Could Hitachi’s Class 800 Trains Work The Cornish Main Line On Battery Power?
The distance between Plymouth and Penzance stations along the Cornish Main Line is just seventy-nine miles and thirty-eight chains. I’ll call it 79.5 miles.
Hitachi’s proposed train is described in this infographic.
The range on battery power of 90 km or 56 miles, will not be quite enough to get all the way between Plymouth and Penzance!
But note the phrase – Allows Discontinuous Electrification; at the top of the infographic.
Will Electrification Be Needed?
Obviously or the train could perhaps wait at Truro for ten minutes to charge the batteries.
But how customer-unfriendly and disruptive to good operating practice is that?
Could Bigger Batteries Be Fitted?
This obviously is a possibility, but surely an operator would prefer all of their trains to have the same battery range and updating them all for a longer distance might not be an economic proposition.
Could Intelligent Discontinuous Third-Rail Electrification Be Used?
Third-rail electrification, is hated by the Health & Safety Taliban, as it occasionally kills people trespassing or falling on the railway. But in the UK, we have around 1,500 miles of third-rail electrified line, that generally operates to a high level of safety.
Can my modern successors make third-rail electrification absolutely safe in new installations?
Third-Rail And Discontinuous Electrification Installations!
To connect to overhead electrification, the driver or an automatic system on the train, must raise the pantograph. It doesn’t often go wrong, but when it does, it can bring down the wires. This section on panotograph weaknesses from Wikipedia give more details.
With third-rail, the connection and disconnection is automatic, with far less to go wrong.
These pictures show a gap in the third-rail electrification at the Blackfriars station, which was rebuilt in 2012, so it must meet all modern regulations.
Note the gap in the third-rail, which carries the current.
- The third-rail shoes on the train disconnect and connect automatically, as the train passes through.
- The only rails with voltage are between the tracks for safety.
- The high-tech shields appear to be real tree wood painted yellow.
As an Electrical Engineer, I actually suspect, that this gap in the conductor rail, is to isolate the North and South London electricity supplies from each other,, so that a catastrophic failure on one side doesn’t affect both halves of Thameslink.
Third-Rail Electrification In Stations
Most rail passengers in the UK, understand third-rail electrification, if they’ve ever used trains in the South of London or Merseyside.
Electrifying stations using third-rail equipment could enable battery trains to go further.
- Stopping trains could top-up their batteries.
- Passing trains, that were low on power could make a pit-stop.
- All trains would connect automatically to the third-rail, when in the station.
The safety level would be raised by making sure that the third-rail was electrically-dead unless a train was over the top.
I am by training a Control Engineer and one of my first jobs in a dangerous factory as a fifteen-year-old, was designing and building safety systems, that cut power to guillotines, when the operator put their hands somewhere they shouldn’t! I remember endlessly testing the system with an old broom, which survived unscathed.
I believe that only switching on the electrification, when a train completes the circuit, is a fairly simple operation for modern control switchgear. I can imagine an intelligent switch constantly monitoring the resistance and only switching on power, when the resistance in the circuit looks like a train.
Third-Rail Electrification In Discrete Locations
Overhead electrification can receive complaints in scenic locations, but third-rail electrification can be invisible in tunnels and over bridges and viaducts.
The Cornish Main Line has four tunnels, two bridges, which include the Royal Albert Bridge, and no less than thirty-two viaducts.
How many of these could be used to hide electrification?
- Any electrified sections could be intelligently controlled to increase safety.
- Power for the electrification could come from local renewable sources, using techniques like Riding Sunbeams.
I can see engineers developing several techniques for discrete electrification.
Third-Rail And Charging Battery Trains
I like the Vivarail’s Fast Charge concept of using third-rail equipment to charge battery trains.
This press release from the company describes how they charge their battery electric Class 230 trains.
- The system is patented.
- The system uses a trickle-charged battery pack, by the side of the track to supply the power.
- The first system worked with the London Underground 3rd and 4th rail electrification standard.
As the length of rails needed to be added at charging points is about a metre, installing a charging facility in a station, will not be the largest of projects.
Under How Does It Work?, the press release says this.
The concept is simple – at the terminus 4 short sections of 3rd and 4th rail are installed and connected to the electronic control unit and the battery bank. Whilst the train is in service the battery bank trickle charges itself from the national grid – the benefit of this is that there is a continuous low-level draw such as an EMU would use rather than a one-off huge demand for power.
The train pulls into the station as normal and the shoe-gear connects with the sections of charging rail. The driver need do nothing other than stop in the correct place as per normal and the rail is not live until the train is in place.
That’s it!
As an electrical engineer, I’m certain the concept could be adapted to charge the batteries of a conventional third-rail train.
Vivarail’s press release says this about modification to the trains.
The train’s shoe-gear is made of ceramic carbon so it is able to withstand the heat generated during the fast charge process.
That wouldn’t be a major problem to solve.
Hitachi And Third Rail
The picture shows a Hitachi Class 395 train at Gillingham station.
The silver-coloured third-rail equipment is clearly visible, under the javelin logo.
These trains are cousins of all the new Hitachi trains in the UK, so I suspect fitting third-rail equipment to Class 80x trains, is just a matter of finding the appropriate documents on the computer and raiding the parts bin.
I suspect, as Hitachi will probably be building some more trains for Southeastern to start the Highspeed service between London St. Pancras and Hastings, that Hitachi are already working on the design of a third-rail high-speed train with batteries.
I doubt that Hitachi have any fears about fitting third-rail gear to their trains, as an optional extra.
Electrifying Between Plymouth And Penzance
Obviously, Plymouth and Penzance stations would have charging facilities, but now many would the trains handle the 79.5 miles in between?
There are three possibilities.
Limited-Third Rail Electrification
As I indicated earlier short lengths of intelligent third-rail electrification could be added at various places on the route.
A full battery would take the train fifty-six miles and as the Cornish Main Line is nearly eighty miles long, I suspect that the train would need almost a full charge halfway along the route.
- Hitachi claim in the infographic, that a full-charge takes 10-15 minutes, when the train is static, so I will assume the largest figure of this range, as charging on the move might not be as efficient, with everything happening at 90 mph.
- So I will assume a fifteen minute charge time.
- Typically, a Class 80x takes two hours between Penzance and Plymouth, which is an average speed of just 40 mph.
- In fifteen minutes, the train will go ten miles. So a rough estimate would say ten miles should be electrified.
As electrification in stations would allow trains to have a bigger sup, a scientifically-correct simulation would show the best philosophy.
The London Paddington and Penzance services call at the following stations, that are West of Plymouth.
Liskeard, Saltash, St. Germans, Bodmin Parkway, Lostwithiel, Par, St Austell, Truro, Redruth, Camborne, Hayle and St Erth
Note.
- Some smaller stations do get skipped.
- According to Real Time Trains, stops seem to take 1-2 minutes.
- Trains are usually nine- or ten-cars, but I feel that the proposed improvements between Bodmin General and Bodmin Parkway stations, that I wrote about in Increased Service Provision Bodmin General-Bodmin Parkway, may result in a large reorganisation of services between London and Cornwall.
Could it be that electrifying the major stations with third-rail electrification would enable enough power to be taken on board by a train running between London Paddington and Penzance, so that the journey could be completed?
Vivarail Fast Chargers
Vivarail’s Fast Chargers could be fitted at all or selected stations and trains could take a sip as and when they need.
A charger would also be needed at any Cornish terminal station, that would have services from battery electric trains.
A Mixture Of Third-Rail Electrification And Vivarail Fast Chargers
Both technologies are interchangeable and can be used with compatible battery electric trains.
I would expect an accurate mathematical model will indicate the best layout of electrification and Fast Chargers.
Battery Electric Class 800 Trains Between London Paddington And Bristol Temple Mead Stations
Hitachi have changed the rules on electrification, by the announcement of the development of battery electric trains in collaboration with Hyperdrive Innovation, which I wrote about in Hyperdrive Innovation And Hitachi Rail To Develop Battery Tech For Trains.
The proposed train is described in this Hitachi infographic.
It will have a range on battery power of 90 km or 56 miles.
Currently, services between London Paddington and Bristol Temple Meads stations are as follows.
- The frequency is two trains per hour (tph)
- Services call at Reading, Didcot Parkway (1tph), Swindon, Chippenham and Bath Spa.
- Services use the electrification between London Paddington and Chippenham.
- Services use diesel power between Chippenham and Bristol Temple Meads.
- Chippenham and Bristol Temple Meads are 24.5 miles apart.
It looks to me that a well-driven Class 800 train with Hyperdrive Innovation’s clever batteries replacing some or all of the diesel engines could run between Chippenham and Bristol Temple Meads stations and back without using a drop of diesel.
It might be a bit tight, but it would certainly be possible, if there were more electrification between Bath Spa and Chippenham stations.
- From this article on the BBC, which is entitled Box Tunnel Reopens After Network Rail Electrification Work, it appears that a lot of the pre-electrification work has been completed.
- This would reduce the distance without wires to perhaps 18-20 miles.
As the Class 800 trains have agile pantographs, I’m sure that it will be possible for battery electric Class 800 trains to run between London Paddington and Bristol Temple Meads stations.
Electrification At Bristol Temple Meads Station
This will surely happen and with full electrification, the following will be possible.
- Trains would be able to recharge before returning to Chippenham.
- Trains would be able to extend the service using battery power to Weston-super-Mare, which is only twenty miles away.
- Trains would be able to use the power whilst waiting in the station.
It appears that trains that run between London Paddington and Bristol Temple Meads station, use a selection of platforms in Bristol.
Would it be sensible to reduce the number of platforms used and electrify them first, so that battery electric trains could charge their batteries?
Could A Battery Electric Train Run Between Bristol Temple Means And Taunton Stations?
Consider.
- These two stations are 46 miles apart via Weston-super-Mare, so if there was charging at Taunton, this service might be possible.
- The direct route is a couple of miles shorter.
- A train with full batteries at Taunton, would reach well past Exeter.
Could a battery-electric service be of use in creating Great Western Railway’s timetable, as in the Peak services are extended to Weston-super-Mare and Taunton stations?
It would certainly be lower carbon. than a current journey.
Would The Railway Through Bath Need To Be Electrified?
This would depend on three main factors.
- There is a certain amount of opposition to electrification in the centre of Bath.
- Can all passenger trains through the city be made zero-carbon without electrification?
- Can all freight trains through the city be made zero-carbon without electrification?
I would feel that all passenger trains could be run by appropriate trains, but freight would be a problem under existing technology.
I wouldn’t be surprised, if no electrification was ever erected through Bath!
Beeching Reversal – Reopening Stratford-upon-Avon And Honeybourne-Worcester/Oxford (SWO) Railway Line
This is one of the Beeching Reversal projects that the Government and Network Rail are proposing to reverse some of the Beeching cuts.
I covered this route in RSC Urges GWR To Provide Stratford Improvements and came to these conclusions.
There are three ways to improve rail access to Stratford-upon-Avon.
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- The relatively easy and quick, enhancement of the rail services in Warwickshire.
- Provide better one-change routes using Chiltern Railways.
- The more difficult re-connection of Stratford to the Cotswold Line at Honeybourne.
As the last project will take years to implement, I feel, it is important that services to Stratford from Birmingham, Coventry, Leamington Spa and the West Midlands are substantially increased.
I also believe that the responsibility of providing a local service between Leamigton Spa and Stratford should be given to West Midlands Trains.
The Case To Reconnect Stratford-on-Avon and Honeybourne Stations
In Where Is London Midland Going?, I wrote this section in July 2017.
The North Warwickshire Line
The North Warwickshire Line links Birmingham with Stratford-on-Avon and has an alternative name of the Shakespeare Line.
Plans exist to extend this line South to Honeybourne station on the Cotswold Line.
Under Possible Future Development in the Wikipedia entry for the Warwickshire Line, this is said.
The Shakespeare Line Promotion Group is promoting a scheme to reopen the 9 miles (14 km) of line south of Stratford to Honeybourne where it would link to the Cotswold Line. Called the “Avon Rail Link”, the scheme (supported as a freight diversionary route by DB Schenker) would make Stratford-upon-Avon station a through station once again with improved connections to the South, and would open up the possibility of direct services to Oxford and Worcester via Evesham. The scheme faces local opposition. However, there is a good business case for Stratford-Cotswolds link.
I think we’ll see something in the new franchise about developing this line, as there is a lot of potential for a train operator.
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- Direct services between Stratford-on-Avon and Oxford, where there is a connection to Bicester Village. Tourists would love that!
- Connection of the housing development at Long Marston to Birmingham.
- Could Stratford-on-Avon or Honeybourne become the terminus of a service from Leamington, Coventry and Nuneaton?
It would also give DB Schenker, their freight diversion.
But we didn’t see anything in the new franchise and the project has turned up in the list of Beeching Reversal projects.
The Route Into Stratford-Upon-Avon
This Google Map shows Stratford-upon-Avon station.
Note.
- The station is well-appointed with step-free access and three platforms.
- The bridge at the Southern end of the station to allow the railway to go South, appears to be intact.
This second Google Map shows the area of the town from the station to the racecourse.
Note.
- Stratford-upon-Avon station at the top of the map.
- Stratford Racecourse at the bottom of the map.
The road curving between the station and the racecourse is the track of the former Stratford to Honeybourne railway.
My first reaction, when I saw this was that those, who want to rebuild this railway can’t be serious.
- Would you want one of DB Schenker’s noisy, smelly and polluting Class 66 locomotives running past your house?
- Would you want the line to be electrified, so they could use electric locomotives on this short stretch of railway? If so would DB Schenker be happy to change locomotives twice?
I have looked at new railways entering towns and cities all over the UK and Europe and feel there is only two possible solutions for Southern access to Stratford-upon-Avon station.
- A single-track passenger-only railway run by battery electric trains.
- A tunnel, which would probably be single-bore for cost reasons.
South of Stratford, the route is easier and it can be picked out on Google Maps until it reaches the Cotswold Line to the East of Honeybourne station.
This Google Map shows Honeybourne station and the junction.
Note.
- The Cotswold Line running NW-SE across the map.
- The large triangular junction that connected the line to Stratford-upon-Avon station, which is to the North-East.
- Another track going South from the junction, can be picked out. This leads to the heritage Gloucestershire Warwickshire Railway at Broadway station, with onward connections to Cheltenham Racecourse.
Honeybourne station could be an important rail hub.
Honeybourne Station And Battery Electric Trains
Consider.
- Hereford and Honeybourne stations are 48 miles apart.
- Didcot East Junction, where trains switch to and from the Great Western Main Line electrification and Honeybourne stations are 48 miles apart.
- Trains to Hereford pass through Great Malvern, Worcestershire Parkway and Worcester Foregate Street.
- Stratford-up-on-Avon and Honeybourne stations would be less than thirty miles apart, if the two stations were to be reconnected by rail.
- Hitachi’s proposed battery electric trains will have a range of 56 miles on battery power.
If the means to charge battery electric trains were provided in the Honeybourne area, the following services could be run by battery electric trains.
- London Paddington and Worcestershire Parkway, Worcester Foregate Street, Great Malvern and Hereford.
- Honeybourne and Stratford-upon-Avon
The charging could be performed, by a ten minute stop at Honeybourne station or a section of electrified line centred on the station.
The two stations either side of Honeybourne are Evesham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
- They are fifteen miles apart.
- Trains take eighteen minutes between the stations.
- This would be enough time to charge the batteries.
- Trains could pan-up and pan-down in the two stations.
I believe modern low-visibility overhead electrification could be used.
See Prototype Overhead Line Structure Revealed for more details on these gantries.
An Oxford And Stratford-upon-Avon Service
My estimates for the timings of the two sections of the route are as follows.
- Stratford-upon-Avon and Honeybourne – 20 minutes
- Honeybourne and Oxford – 46 minutes
Perhaps not the best for an efficient services, but I’m sure something could be arranged.
Conclusion
This will be a difficult project to get built.
If it is built, I suspect, it will be a passenger-only route using battery trains.
Dore And Totley Station – 13th July 2020
These pictures show Dore and Totley station.
These are my thoughts on the station and the tracks through it.
The Midland Main Line And High Speed Two
The two tracks, that are furthest away from the station platform are the Midland Main Line between Sheffield and Chesterfield, Derby and the South.
- These tracks will be taken over by High Speed Two.
- They will be electrified with 25 KVAC overhead electrification between Clay Cross North junction and Sheffield station.
- The trains on the Midland Main Line will continue to use the electrified tracks.
- East Midlands Railway have ordered bi-mode Class 810 trains, which will each be 120 metres long or 240 metres long, when running as a pair.
- CrossCountry’s Class 220 trains are 187 metres long running as a pair.
- I estimate that the faster trains were doing around 100 mph, as they passed Dore and Totley station. I shall measure it properly next time, I go to Sheffield on a train.
Note.
- High Speed Two’s trains will probably be going through at the same speed as East Midlands Railway’s Class 810 trains.
- High Speed Two will be running their 200 metre long classic-compatible trains to and from Sheffield, so except that there will be two more trains in every hour, there will be little difference.
- Both the High Speed Two and the East Midlands Railway trains will be running on electric power between Sheffield and Chesterfield stations.
- It is likely that other services will use electric power on the Midland Main Line.
- There will be no platforms on the High Speed tracks at Dore and Totley station.
I would suspect that there will be little disruption to train services through the area, whilst the electrification is installed, judging by the disruption caused during electrification between Bedford and Corby.
Dore Junction
Dore Junction is a triangular junction, that connects the Hope Valley Line and the Midland Main Line to the South of Dore and Totley station.
This Google Map shows Dore Junction.
Note.
- Dore and Junction station is at the North of the Map.
- Dore West Junction is in the South West corner of the map and leads to the Hope Valley Line.
- Dore South Junction is in the South East corner of the map and leads to Chesterfield on the Midland Main Line.
This second Google Map shows Dore South Junction.
Could this junction be improved to increase capacity and efficiency?
- The Southern track of the triangular junction is only single track.
- It is a major route for stone trains between Derbyshire and London and the South.
If Network Rail have any ideas for Dore Junction, then surely, when the works in the area are being carried out, is the time for them to be performed.
Platform Length At Dore And Totley Station
I took these two pictures when I arrived at Dore and Totley station.
As the train was formed of two two-car Class 150 trains and the train fits the platform, it would appear that the platform is about eighty metres long.
An Extra Platform At Dore And Totley Station
There may be no plans to put platforms on the Midland Main Line, but plans exist for an extra track through the station, that will connect to the Hope Valley Line.
This Google Map shows Dore and Totley station and the Midland Main Line.
The second platform wouldn’t be the widest platform,. but I’m sure a second track and a safe platform could be squeezed in.
- A bridge with lifts would be needed.
- The current single platform at the station is around eighty metres long, but as I said in Beeching Reversal – Sheaf Valley Stations, the platforms must be long enough to take a pair of Class 185 trains or a five-car Class 802 train, which is probably around 140 metres.
I wonder if more space is needed, the Midland Main Line could be realigned to give more space and better performance.
A Turnback At Dore And Totley Station
In Beeching Reversal – Sheaf Valley Stations, I said this about a possible turnback at Dore and Totley station.
This Google Map shows Dore & Totley station and the area to the South.
Note.
- There would appear to be a lot of space between the Midland Main Line and the single track, that leads between Dore & Totley station and the Hope Valley Line.
Flying my helicopter, as low as I dare, it looks like the area is either a rubbish dump or very low grade businesses.
Crossrail has designed turnbacks at Abbey Wood and Paddington stations, that will handle twelve tph.
I believe that it would be possible to design a turnback at Dore & Totley station, that would handle eight trains per hour, if not twelve tph.It might even be possible to squeeze in some overnight stabling.
Whilst I was at Dore and Totley station, I met a couple, who were perhaps a few years older than me, who had grown up in the area.
He could remember local steam services between Sheffield and Dore and Totley stations, where there had been a turntable to the South of the station to reverse the locomotive.
Conclusion
After what I saw on my visit to Dore and Totley station, I would suspect that the station can be updated to the standard required to allow four tph between Manchester Piccadilly and Sheffield stations.
It could also be a station that will attract passengers.
Along The Hope Valley Line – 13th July 2020
These pictures show my return trip between Manchester Piccadilly and Dore & Totley stations.
There are an assorted set of stations.
- Some stations appear to have new platforms.
- Marple station has a impressive step-free bridge.
- Some stations may be Listed or should be.
- There are walking routes from some stations.
- Some stations need improvements to the access.
I also have some thoughts on the service.
The Class 150 Trains
The Class 150 trains have these characteristics.
- Installed Power – 426 kW
- Weight – 35.8 tonnes
- Operating Speed – 75 mph.
This compares with these for a Class 195 train.
- Installed Power – 780 kW
- Weight – 40 tonnes
- Operating Speed – 100 mph.
- Acceleration – 0.83 m/sec/sec
Unfortunately, I can’t find the acceleration for a Class 150 train, but I suspect that it’s not as good as the Class 195 train.
- I was in a Class 150 train, for both journeys.
- IThe train was on time both ways.
- The engine under my carriage wasn’t working that hard.
- The train was trundling around at around 60 mph.
- The operating speed of the line is 90 mph.
So I suspect, that a well-driven Class 195 train will shave a few minutes from the journey time.
Transport For The North’s Plan For Manchester And Sheffield
Transportbfor the North objective for Manchester Piccadilly and Sheffield stations can be summed up as follows.
Four tph in forty minutes.
As current trains take over anhour, it could be a tough ask!
The Timetable
The timetable isn’t very passenger-friendly with no easy-to-remember clock-face timetable.
This must be sorted.
Hopefully, it will increase the number of passengers riding on the route.
Battery Electric Trains
Consider.
- Sheffield station will be electrified for High Speed Two.
- It is likely that the route between Dore & Totley and Sheffield station will be electrified.
- There is electrification at the Manchester end of the route.
- The distance without electrification in the middle is probably about thirty-six miles.
- Fifty-sixty miles seems a typical range quoted for a battery electric train by train manufacturers.
As electric trains generally accelerate faster than their diesel equivalent, these could run the route reliably and save time on the journey.
Conclusion
I’m coming round to the opinion, that Transport for the North’s objectives for the route can be met without electrification.
Rail Solar Projects Pave The Way For Renewables
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on Engineering and Technology.
This is the introductory sub-title.
Electric trains could provide a huge guaranteed market for renewables, but it will need some railway-specific power equipment.
The article then goes on to describe how Riding Sunbeams are developing and sourcing the equipment to connect both 750 VDC and 25 KVAC electrification directly to solar panels.
It is not as easy, as you might think!
Electrifying Wales
I would not be surprised to learn that Wales wants to decarbonise their railways.
At present, Wales only has the following electrified railways either in operation or under construction.
- The South Wales Main Line between the Severn Tunnel and Cardiff.
- The South Wales Metro based on local railways around Cardiff and Newport is being created and will be run by electric trains.
There is no more electrification planned in the future.
Hitachi’s Specification For Battery Electric Trains
Recently, Hitachi have released this infographic for their Regional Battery Train.
This gives all the information about the train and a definitive range of 90 km or 56 miles.
The Welsh Rail Network
If you look at the network of services that are run by Transport for Wales Rail Services, they connect a series of hub stations.
Major hubs include the following stations.
- Cardiff Central – Electrified
- Chester
- Hereford
- Shrewsbury
- Swansea
Smaller hubs and termini include the following stations.
- Aberystwyth
- Birmingham International – Electrified
- Birmingham New Street – Electrified
- Blaenau Ffestiniog
- Carmarthen
- Crewe – Electrified
- Fishguard Harbour
- Hereford
- Holyhead
- Llandudno Junction
- Manchester Airport – Electrified
- Manchester Piccadilly – Electrified
- Machynlleth
- Milford Haven
- Newport – Electrified
- Pembroke Dock
Running Welsh Routes With Electric Trains
These routes make up the Welsh rail network.
Chester And Crewe
Consider.
- The route between Chester and Crewe is without electrification.
- Crewe and Chester are 21 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train, with a range of 56 miles, can leave Chester and Crewe with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Chester and Crewe stations.
Chester And Holyhead via Llandudno Junction
Consider.
- All services between Llandudno Junction and England call at Chester.
- All services running to and from Holyhead call at Llandudno Junction.
- The route between Chester and Holyhead is without electrification.
- Chester and Llandudno Junction are 54 miles apart.
- Llandudno Junction and Holyhead are 40 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train with a range of 56 miles can leave Chester, Llandudno Junction and Holyhead with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Chester and Holyhead stations.
Chester And Liverpool Lime Street
Consider.
- The route between Runcorn and Liverpool Lime Street is electrified.
- The route between Chester and Runcorn is without electrification.
- Chester and Runcorn are 14 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train, with a range of 56 miles, can leave Chester and Runcorn with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Chester and Liverpool Lime Street stations.
Chester And Manchester Airport
Consider.
- The route between Warrington Bank Quay and Manchester Airport is electrified.
- The route between Chester and Warrington Bank Quay is without electrification.
- Chester and Warrington Bank Quay are 18 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train, with a range of 56 miles, can leave Chester and Warrington Bank Quay with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Chester and Manchester Airport stations.
Chester And Shrewsbury
Consider.
- The route between Chester and Shrewsbury is without electrification.
- Chester and Shrewsbury are 42 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train with a range of 56 miles, can leave Shrewsbury and Chester with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Chester and Shrewsbury stations.
Llandudno And Blaenau Ffestiniog
Consider.
- The route between Llandudno and Blaenau Ffestiniog is without electrification.
- Llandudno and Blaenau Ffestiniog are 31 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train with a range of 56 miles, can leave Llandudno and Blaenau Ffestiniog with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Llandudno and Blaenau Ffestiniog stations.
Machynlleth And Aberystwyth
Consider.
- The route between Machynlleth and Aberystwyth is without electrification.
- Machynlleth and Aberystwyth are 21 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train with a range of 56 miles, can leave Machynlleth and Aberystwyth with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Machynlleth and Aberystwyth stations.
Machynlleth And Pwllheli
Consider.
- The route between Machynlleth and Pwllheli is without electrification.
- Machynlleth and Pwllheli are 58 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train with a range of upwards of 58 miles, can leave Machynlleth and Pwllheli with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Machynlleth and Pwllheli stations.
Machynlleth And Shrewsbury
Consider.
- The route between Machynlleth and Shrewsbury is without electrification.
- Machynlleth and Shrewsbury are 61 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train with a range of upwards of 61 miles, can leave Machynlleth and Shrewsbury with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Machynlleth and Shrewsbury stations.
Shrewsbury and Birmingham International
Consider.
- The route between Birmingham International and Wolverhampton is electrified.
- The route between Shrewsbury and Wolverhampton is without electrification.
- Shrewsbury and Wolverhampton are 30 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train, with a range of 56 miles, can leave Shrewsbury and Wolverhampton with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Shrewsbury and Birmingham International stations.
Shrewsbury And Cardiff Central via Hereford
Consider.
- All services between Cardiff Central and Shrewsbury call at Hereford.
- The route between Cardiff Central and Newport is electrified.
- The route between Newport and Shrewsbury is without electrification.
- Shrewsbury and Hereford are 51 miles apart.
- Hereford and Newport are 44 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train, with a range of 56 miles, can leave Shrewsbury, Hereford and Newport with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Shrewsbury and Cardiff Central stations.
Shrewsbury And Crewe
- The route between Shrewsbury and Crewe is without electrification.
- Shrewsbury and Crewe are 33 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train with a range of upwards of 61 miles, can leave Shrewsbury and Crewe with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Shrewsbury and Crewe stations.
Shrewsbury and Swansea
Consider.
- The Heart of Wales Line between Shrewsbury and Swansea is without electrification.
- Shrewsbury and Swansea are 122 miles apart.
- Trains cross at Llandrindod and wait for up to eleven minutes, so there could be time for a charge.
- Shrewsbury and Llandrindod are 52 miles apart.
- Swansea and Llandrindod are 70 miles apart.
It appears that another charging station between Swansea and Llandrindod is needed
I believe that if a battery-electric train, with a range of 56 miles, can leave Shrewsbury, Swansea and the other charging station, with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Shrewsbury and Swansea stations.
Swansea And Cardiff Central
Consider.
- The route between Swansea and Cardiff Central is without electrification.
- Swansea and Cardiff Central are 46 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train, with a range of 56 miles, can leave Swansea and Cardiff Central with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Swansea and Cardiff Central stations.
Swansea And Carmarthen
Consider.
- The route between Swansea and Carmarthen is without electrification.
- Swansea and Carmarthen are 31 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train, with a range of 56 miles, can leave Swansea and Carmarthen with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Swansea and Carmarthen stations.
Swansea And Fishguard Harbour
Consider.
- The route between Swansea and Fishguard Harbour is without electrification.
- Swansea and Fishguard Harbour are 73 miles apart.
- Tramins could top up the batteries during the reverse at Carmathen.
- Swansea and Carmarthen are 31 miles apart.
- Carmarthen and Fishguard Harbour are 42 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train, with a range of 56 miles, can leave Swansea, Carmathen and Fishguard Harbour with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Swansea and Fishguard Harbour stations.
Swansea And Milford Haven
Consider.
- The route between Swansea and Milford Haven is without electrification.
- Swansea and Milford Haven are 72 miles apart.
- Tramins could top up the batteries during the reverse at Carmathen.
- Swansea and Carmarthen are 31 miles apart.
- Carmarthen and Milford Haven are 41 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train, with a range of 56 miles, can leave Swansea, Carmathen and Milford Haven with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Swansea and Milford Haven stations.
Swansea And Pembroke Dock
Consider.
- The route between Swansea and Pembroke Dock is without electrification.
- Swansea and Pembroke Dock are 73 miles apart.
- Tramins could top up the batteries during the reverse at Carmathen.
- Swansea and Carmarthen are 31 miles apart.
- Carmarthen and Pembroke Dock are 42 miles apart.
I believe that if a battery-electric train, with a range of 56 miles, can leave Swansea, Carmathen and Pembroke Dock with full batteries, that it will be possible to run between Swansea and Pembroke Dock stations.
Other Routes
I have not covered these routes.
- Borderlands Line
- Cardiff Valley Lines, that will be part of the South Wales Metro
- Routes on the electrified South Wales Main Line, that are to the East of Cardiff.
The first will run between Chester and the electrified Merseyrail system and the others will be electrified, except for short stretches.
Stations Where Trains Would Be Charged
These stations will need charging facilities.
Aberystwyth
Aberystwyth station only has a single terminal platform.
I’ve not been to the station, but looking at pictures on the Internet, I suspect that fitting a charging facility into the station, wouldn’t be the most difficult of engineering problems.
Birmingham International
Birmingham International station is fully-electrified and ready for battery-electric trains.
Blaenau Fflestiniog
Blaenau Ffestiniog station has a single terminal platform.
My comments would be similar to what, I said for Aberystwyth station. I would hope a standard solution can be developed.
Cardiff
Cardiff station is fully-electrified and ready for battery-electric trains.
Chester
Chester station has two through platforms and one bay platform, that are used by Trains for Wales.
- The through platforms are bi-directional.
- The bay platform is used by services from Liverpool Lime Street and Manchester Airport and Piccadilly.
- The station is a terminus for Merseyrail’s electric trains, which use 750 VDC third-rail electrification.
- Some through services stop for up to seven minutes in the station.
This Google Map shows the station.
There is plenty of space.
The simplest way to charge trains at Chester would be to electrify the two through platforms 3 and 4 and the bay platform 1.
I would use 750 VDC third-rail, rather than 25 KVAC overhead electrification.
- I’m an engineer, who deals in scientifically-correct solutions, not politically-correct ones, devised by jobsworths.
- Maintenance staff at the station will be familiar with the technology.
- Station staff and passengers will know about the dangers of third-rail electrification.
- Trains connect and disconnect automatically to third-rail electrification.
- Trains don’t have to stop to connect and disconnect, so passing trains can be topped-up.
- Hitachi with the Class 395 train and Alstom with the Class 373 train, have shown even trains capable of 140 mph can be fitted with third-rail shoes to work safely at slower speeds on lines electrified using third-rail.
- Modern control systems can control the electricity to the third-rail, so it is only switched on, when the train completes the circuit.
I have a vague recollection, that there is an avoiding line at Chester station, so trains can go straight through. Perhaps that should be electrified too.
Carmarthen
Carmarthen station is a two platform station, with a rather unusual layout, that I wrote about in Changing Trains At Carmarthen Station.
I took these pictures when I passed through in 2016.
Note the unusual step-free crossing of the tracks.
This Google Map shows the layout at the station.
I believe it is another station, where third-rail electrification could be the solution.
- Most trains seem to reverse at the station, which gives time for a full charge.
- Others terminate here.
but would they still allow passengers to cross the line as they do now, whilst trains are being charged?
Crewe
Crewe station is fully-electrified.
- Trains for Wales seem to use Platform 6 for through trains and the bay Platform 9 for terminating trains.
- Both platforms appear to be electrified.
- Terminating trains appear to wait at least 9-11 minutes before leaving.
It does appear that Crewe station is ready for battery-electric trains.
Fishguard Harbour
Fishguard Harbour station only has a single terminal platform.
My comments would be similar to what, I said for Aberystwyth station. I would hope a standard solution can be developed.
Hereford
Hereford station has four through platforms.
This Google Map shows the station.
There is plenty of space.
As with Chester, I would electrify this station with 750 VDC third-rail equipment.
But the electrification wouldn’t be just for train services in Wales.
- West Midlands Trains, run an hourly service to Birmingham New Street and there is only a forty-one mile gap in the electrification between Hereford and Bromsgrove.
- Great Western Railway’s service to London, has a massive ninety-six mile run to the electrification at Didcot Junction, which could be bridged by installing charging facilities at Worcestershire Parkway and/or Honeybourne stations.
Both services have generous turnround times at Hereford, so would be able to leave fully-charged.
Distances from Hereford station are as follows.
- Abergavenny – 24 miles
- Bromsgrove – 41 miles
- Great Malvern – 21 miles
- Honeybourne – 48 miles
- Ludlow – 13 miles
- Newport – 44 miles
- Shrewsbury – 51 miles
- Worcester Parkway – 33 miles
Hereford station could be a serious battery-electric train hub.
Holyhead
Holyhead station has three terminals platforms.
My comments would be similar to what, I said for Aberystwyth station. I would hope a standard solution can be developed.
Liverpool Lime Street
Liverpool Lime Street station is fully-electrified and ready for battery-electric trains.
Llandrindod
Llandrindod station has two through platforms.
I took these pictures at the station as I passed through in 2016.
The Heart of Wales Line is certainly a route, that would benefit from larger trains. Zero-carbon battery-electric trains would surely fit well in the area.
This Google Map shows the station.
It would appear that, it is another station, that could be fitted with third-rail electrification to charge the trains.
Distances from Llandrindod station are as follows.
- Shrewsbury – 52 miles
- Llandovery – 27 miles
- Llanelli – 59 miles
- Swansea – 70 miles
It would appear that a second station with charging facilities or bigger batteries are needed.
Llandudno Junction
Llandudno Junction station has four platforms.
This Google Map shows the station.
There is plenty of space.
As at Chester, the simple solution would be to electrify the platforms used by trains, that will need charging.
Butb there may also be a wider plan.
Llandudno Junction station is at the Western end of a string of five closely-spaced stations with Prestatyn station in the East.
- Llandudno Junction and Prestatyn are eight miles apart.
- Trains take twenty-three minutes to pass through this section.
- Some trains do a detour to Llandudno station before continuing.
- For part of the route, the railway lies between the dual-carriageway A55 road and the sea.
So why not electrify this section of railway between Llandudno Junction and Prestatyn stations?
- Either 750 VDC this-rail or 25 KVAC overhead electrification could be used.
- Prestatyn and Chester are 46 miles apart.
- Llandudno Junction and Holyhead are 40 miles apart.
If third-rail electrification were to be used, it might be advantageous to electrify to Llandudno station.
- It would be less intrusive.
- It would be quieter in an urban area.
- It would give the trains to Blaenau Ffestiniog trains a good charge.
But above all third-rail electrification might cost a bit less and cause less disruption to install.
Machynlleth
Machynlleth station is where the Aberystwyth and Pwllheli services split and join.
This Google Map shows the station.
Consider.
- There is a train depot by the station.
- Will there be a good power supply at the station to charge the trains?
- Machnylleth and Pwllhelli are 58 miles apart.
- Machynlleth and Shrewsbury are 61 miles apart.
I think that Machynlleth might be pushing things too far, without extra stations with charging facilities.
One solution might be to develop the Riding Sunbeams concept and electrify the route between Newtown and Dovey Junction via Machynlleth, using third-rail technology powered-by solar or wind power.
Another solution would be batteries with a larger capacity.
Manchester Airport
Manchester Airport station is fully-electrified and ready for battery-electric trains.
Manchester Piccadilly
Manchester Piccadilly station is fully-electrified and ready for battery-electric trains.
Milford Haven
Milford Haven station only has a single terminal platform.
My comments would be similar to what, I said for Aberystwyth station. I would hope a standard solution can be developed.
Pembroke Dock
Pembroke Dock station only has a single terminal platform.
My comments would be similar to what, I said for Aberystwyth station. I would hope a standard solution can be developed.
Pwllheli
Pwhelli station is a only has a single terminal platform.
This Google Map shows the location of the station.
The stsation is at the North West corner of the bay.
My first reaction, when I saw this was that I have to go.
So I took a closer look at the station instead.
I suspect that fitting a charging facility into the station, wouldn’t be the most difficult of engineering problems. Although, there might be a problem getting a good enough connection to the National Grid.
Shewsbury
Shrewsbury station is a five-platform station.
This Google Map shows the station’s unusual location over the River Severn.
It must be one of few stations in the world, where trains enter the station from three different directions.
- From Crewe and Chester to the North.
- From Hereford and Wales to the South.
- From Birmingham and Wolverhampton in the East.
Adding electrification to all or selected platforms should allow trains to recharge and be on their way.
- Under current timetables, dwell times in Shrewsbury are up to eight minutes.
- I would suspect the train times could be adjusted, so that trains left the station with full batteries.
With battery-electric services to Aberystwyth, Birmingham International, Birmingham New Street, Cardiff Central, Chester, Crewe, Hereford, Holyhead, London Euston, Manchester, Pwllheli and Swansea, it will be a very important station.
Swansea
Swansea station has four terminal platforms.
A charging facility could be added to an appropriate number of platforms.
Or perhaps, the last few miles of track into the station should be electrified, so trains could charge on the way in, charge in the station and charge on the way out.
Third Rail Electrification
I have suggested in this post, that 750 VDC third-rail electrification could be used in several places.
I will repeat what I said earlier, when discussing Chester station.
- I’m an engineer, who deals in scientifically-correct solutions, not politically-correct ones, devised by jobsworths.
- Maintenance staff at the station will be familiar with the technology.
- Station staff and passengers will know about the dangers of third-rail electrification.
- Trains connect and disconnect automatically to third-rail electrification.
- Trains don’t have to stop to connect and disconnect, so passing trains can be topped-up.
- Hitachi with the Class 395 train and Alstom with the Class 373 train, have shown even trains capable of 140 mph can be fitted with third-rail shoes to work safely at slower speeds on lines electrified using third-rail.
- Modern control systems can control the electricity to the third-rail, so it is only switched on, when the train completes the circuit.
Third-rail electrification should be seriously considered.
A Standardised Terminal Solution
In this post, I mentioned that the following stations could be powered by a scandalised solution, as they are all one platform, terminal stations.
- Aberystwyth
- Blaenau Ffestiniog
- Fishguard Harbour
- Holyhead
- Milford Haven
- Pembroke Dock
- Pwllheli
The system might also be applicable at Carmarthen and Swansea.
My view is that Vivarail’s Fast Track charging based on third-rail technology would be ideal. I discussed this technology in Vivarail Unveils Fast Charging System For Class 230 Battery Trains.
Conclusion
With a bit of ingenuity, all train services run by Transport for Wales, can be run with battery-electric trains.




























































































































































