Birmingham-Black Country-Shrewsbury
On the Midlands Connect web site, they have a page, which is entitled Birmingham-Black Country-Shrewsbury.
This is the introductory paragraph.
We’re examining the case to increase services from three to four per hour, made possible by capacity released post-HS2.
They then give the outline of their plans, which can be summed up as follows.
- Services on the corridor are slow and unreliable.
- Network Rail say the service is in danger of acute overcrowding.
- Services will be increased from three trains per hour (tph) to four.
- A direct hourly service from Shrewsbury, Wellington and Telford to London will be introduced.
- Services to Birmingham International will be doubled.
- The economic case will be examined for speeding up services between Shrewsbury and Birmingham from 56 to 45 minutes, via track upgrades and possible electrification.
It seems a safe, and not overly ambitious plan.
These are my thoughts.
Shrewsbury’s Unique Position
These are distances and times from important stations.
- Birmingham International – 51 miles and 83 minutes
- Birmingham New Street – 42.5 miles and 71 minutes
- Chester – 42.5 miles and 53 minutes
- Crewe – 33 miles and 53 minutes
- Hereford – 51 miles and 59 minutes
- Telford – 14 miles and 21 minutes
- Wellington – 10 miles and 13 minutes
- Welshpool – 20 miles and 25 minutes
- Wolverhampton – 30 miles and 50 minutes
In Sparking A Revolution, I quoted this Hitachi-specification for a battery-electric train.
- Range – 55-65 miles
- Performance – 90-100 mph
- Recharge – 10 minutes when static
- Routes – Suburban near electrified lines
- Battery Life – 8-10 years
I can’t see any problem, for a train with this specification being able to reach Shrewsbury from Birmingham International, Birmingham New Street and Crewe on battery power.
In Hitachi Trains For Avanti, I quote an article with the same title in the January 2020 Edition of Modern Railways as saying this.
Hitachi told Modern Railways it was unable to confirm the rating of the diesel engines on the bi-modes, but said these would be replaceable by batteries in future if specified.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Shrewsbury served from Birmingham and Crewe by fast electric trains, that used battery power. Avanti West Coast certainly seem to have that thought in mind.
Zero Carbon Trains Between Shrewsbury And Wales
It will be a formidable challenge to run battery trains from Shrewsbury to the Welsh destinations.
- Aberystwyth – 81.5 miles
- Cardiff – 107 miles
- Carmarthen – 185 miles
- Holyhead – 133 miles
- Milford Haven – 225 miles
- Swansea – 121.5 miles
Note.
- These are challenging distances for battery-electric trains.
- South Wales destinations served via Newport and Cardiff could use the electrification on the South Wales Main Line.
- Many of these services start from East of Shrewsbury and can use the electrified lines that connects to Birmingham New Street and Manchester Piccadilly.
Unless someone like Riding Sunbeams, makes a breakthrough, I can’t see battery-electric trains running to Welsh destinations from Shrewsbury.
Transport for Wales New Trains
Transport for Wales have ordered seventy-seven new Class 197 trains, and these diesel trains will be used for services through Shrewsbury, mainly on services to Birmingham New Street and Birmingham International stations.
- If these trains are similar to Northern’s Class 195 trains, they will be diesel multiple units with a noisy mechanical transmission.
- I was surprised in these days of global warming that Transport for Wales didn’t buy something more eco-friendly, as they have for South Wales and the services around Chester.
- The transmission of the Class 197 trains has not been disclosed.
Perhaps, CAF are going to do something innovative.
- The CAF Civity is a modular train, with either electric or diesel power options.
- The diesel-powered options use MTU engines.
- A logical development would be to use an MTU Hybrid PowerPack to reduce diesel consumption and emissions.
- This PowerPack would also reduce noise, as it has an electric transmission.
- I wonder, if CAF can raid their parts bin and fit a pantograph, so where 25 KVAC overhead electrification is available, it can be used.
- If CAF can convert a bog standard diesel multiple unit into a hybrid diesel-electric-battery multiple unit, by performing a heart transplant, it is a neat way of keeping new diesel Civities running until a later date.
- Remember that Northern and West Modlands Trains have another seventy-four similar new diesel Civities in operation or on order. With trains having a forty year life, they don’t fit with an early phasing out of diesel.
I have no idea, what is actually happening, but my engineer’s nose tells me to expect a surprise from CAF.
Increasing Birmingham And Shrewsbury Services From Three Trains Per Hour To Four
Four trains per hour or one train every fifteen minutes seems to be a preferred frequency on several UK suburban lines.
These services seem to provide four tph or better on most, if not all of their routes.
- Birmingham Cross-City Line
- London Overground
- Merseyrail
- Tyne and Wear Metro
Four tph seems to be a very handy Turn-Up-And-Go frequency that encourages people to use rail services.
So I am not surprised to see Midlands Connect wanting four tph between Birmingham and Shrewsbury.
Currently, the following services seem to operate between Shrewsbury and Birmingham.
- Avanti West Coast – 2 trains per day (tpd) – Shrewsbury and London Euston via Birmingham New Street and Birmingham International.
- Trains for Wales – 1 train per two hours (tp2h) – Holyhead and Birmingham International via Birmingham New Street.
- Trains for Wales 1 tph – Aberystwyth/Pwllheli and Birmingham International via Birmingham New Street
- West Midlands Trains – 2 tph – Shrewsbury and Birmingham New Street – One semi-fast and one stopper.
Note.
- All services call at Wolverhampton, Telford and Wellington.
- Shrewsbury and Birmingham New Street is a 3.5 tph service.
- Shrewsbury and Birmingham International is a 1.5 tph service.
It relies heavily on services from Trains for Wales, who probably don’t put Shrewsbury and Birmingham services at the top of their priorities.
I remember, when local services in the North-East of London were run by Greater Anglia from Norwich. Moving some services to Transport for London, brought about a large improvement
Quite frankly, the current service is best described as pathetic.
Should Trains for Wales Services Terminate As Shrewsbury?
I suspect some local politicians in Shrewsbury and Birmingham, think it would be best to adopt this sort of strategy.
- All Welsh services terminate at Shrewsbury.
- Birmingham and Shrewsbury mandate West Midlands Trains and Avanti West Coast to provide a frequent service between Shrewsbury and Birmingham.
It might be the way to go, but many travellers from the Marches, would probably want direct connections to Birmingham, Birmingham Airport and in the future High Speed Two.
Introducing A Direct Hourly Service From Shrewsbury, Wellington And Telford To London
On the face of it, it looks like a much needed service to and from Shrewsbury.
- It will be hourly.
- Initially it will use Class 221 diesel multiple units, but these will be replaced with bi-mode Class 805 trains.
- The current infrequent service calls at Watford Junction, Rugby, Coventry, Birmingham International, Birmingham New Street, Sandwell and Dudley, Wolverhampton, Telford Central and Wellington.
- There are also six other stations between Shrewsbury and Wolverhampton, which might like an improved service.
- The service will be run by Avanti West Coast.
There might also be the possibility of using battery power between Wolverhampton and Shrewsbury, which is only thirty miles each way.
But there are other collateral benefits.
- The service increases the frequency between Shrewsbury and Birmingham New Street stations by one tph to 4.5 tph
- The service increases the frequency between Shrewsbury and Birmingham International by one tph to 2.5 tph.
- The service increases the frequency between Wolverhampton and London Euston by one tph.
- The service increases the frequency between Sandwell and Dudley and London Euston by one tph
- The service increases the frequency between Birmingham New Street and London Euston by one tph.
- The service increases the frequency between Birmingham International and London Euston by one tph.
- The new service will provide an hourly quality connection to High Speed Two at Birmingham International for stations between Shrewsbury and Coventry.
- It appears that the Class 390 trains to Birmingham New Street and being replaced by new Class 807 trains, so Birmingham will have three out of four tph, run by new trains.
- The new Shrewsbury service , has a similar calling pattern to that of the current Scottish service through Birmingham. Will it replace that service, when High Speed Two opens?
Note.
- Midlands Connect’s objective of four tph between Shrewsbury and Birmingham has been met.
- Several stations get a better direct service to London.
- Connectivity to High Speed Two is improved.
- Birmingham New Street and London is now a Turn-Up-And-Go frequency of four tph.
- The Class 805 train will also mean that Avanti West Coast could be zero-carbon in Birmingham. Especially, if it used battery power between Wolverhampton and Shrewsbury stations.
The hourly direct service between Shrewsbury and London will make a lot of difference to train services between Shrewsbury and Birmingham.
Avanti’s London Euston and Birmingham New Street Service
Consider.
- There are two tph that terminate in Birmingham New Street station, that take 88-89 minutes, from London Euston
- There is one tph that goes through Birmingham New Street station to Edinburgh, Glasgow, Preston, or Shrewsbury, that takes 82-84 minutes, from London Euston.
- Currently, the two terminating trains are Class 390 trains, whereas the through train can be a Class 221 train as well.
- Through trains are allowed 5-10 minutes to pass through Birmingham New Street.
- Trains that terminate at Birmingham New Street station are allowed 20-30 minutes to arrive and leave.
- Avanti West Coast have said, that they will be running Class 807 trains between London and Birmingham New Street.
It doesn’t seem to be the best use of scarce platform resources in a busy station to park a train there for half-an-hour.
In Will Avanti West Coast’s New Trains Be Able To Achieve London Euston and Liverpool Lime Street In Two Hours?, I came to the conclusion that the Class 807 trains have been designed as simple, fast, lightweight all-electric trains with no heavy batteries, diesel engines or tilt mechanism.
- I think they’ll be able to shave a few minutes on the timings between London Euston and Birmingham New Street station.
- I would suspect that they will match the 82-84 minutes of the through trains
- The ultimate would be if they could do a round trip between London Euston and Birmingham New Street in three hours.
- Two tph run by what would effectively be a London-Birmingham shuttle would need just six trains.
It might mean new methods of manning the trains, to reduce turnround times.
Doubling Of Services Between Shrewsbury And Birmingham International
The hourly direct London and Shrewsbury Avanti West Coast service will raise the current 1.5 tph service between Shrewsbury and Birmingham International to 2.5 tph, so will be a good start.
- Perhaps Trains for Wales could find the missing 0.5 tph.
- West Midlands Trains might be able to squeeze in another train.
But I suspect that the crowded line between Birmingham New Street and Birmingham International is the problem.
Shrewsbury And Birmingham In Forty-Five Minutes
This is the last objective and saving eleven minutes on this route would suggest that the best way would surely be to fully electrify the route.
- Between Wolverhampton and Birmingham International stations is fully electrified.
- Electric trains have faster acceleration and deceleration, so would probably achieve the required savings if they stopped more than five times.
- From my virtual helicopter it doesn’t appear to be the most challenging of routes to electrify.
- Only about thirty miles of double track would need to be electrified between Wolverhampton and Shrewsbury stations.
- Both Trains for Wales and West Midlands Trains would have to obtain new electric trains.
- Avanti West Coast have already got bi-mode Class 805 trains, that could use the electrification.
But will Trains for Wales go along with Midlands Connect, when they tell them to get electric or bi-mode trains to work between Shrewsbury and Birmingham International stations?
It is because of dilemmas like this, that I feel that electric trains using battery or hydrogen power, when away from electrification can be a very good alternative.
- There is no major disruption raising bridges for the electrification.
- Stations don’t need to be closed for electrification.
- The trains have all the comfort and performance of electric trains.
- Costs and timescales can be reduced.
- When running on battery or hydrogen power, these trains are very quiet, as there is no pantograph noise.
To run battery-electric trains between Shrewsbury and Wolverhampton, the only infrastructure needed would be a method of charging the train at Shrewsbury station.
This Google Map shows the Southern end of Shrewsbury station.
Note.
- The platforms are built over the River Severn.
- The five-car Class 221 train in Virgin livery sitting in Platform 5.
- When this train leaves it will turn left or to the East for Wolverhampton and Birmingham.
- Trains can turn right for Wales.
It is a very unusual station layout.
- Platform 5 is one of a pair of bay platforms; 5 & 6, that can access either Wales or Birmingham.
- Outside of the bay platforms are a pair of through platforms; 4 & 7, that can also access Wales or Birmingham, but they can also access Chester by going through the station.
- The 115 metre long Class 221 train fits easily in the bay platform 5.
- The 130 metre long Class 805 train would probably need to use Platform 4 or 7.
But with well-planned electrification, it would be ideal for charging electric trains as they pass through or turned back!
Once the train reaches Wolverhampton, it will connect to electrification again.
Shrewsbury And High Speed Two
Currently, Shrewsbury has three connections to stations, where it would be convenient to take a High Speed Two train.
- Birmingham International, which is 51 miles and 83 minutes away. Plus a ride on a people mover for High Speed Two.
- Birmingham New Street, which is 42.5 miles and 71 minutes away. Plus a walk to Birmingham Curzon Street for High Speed Two.
- Crewe, which is 33 miles and 55 minutes away.
Passengers will make their own choice.
Could Shrewsbury Have A Classic-Compatible High Speed Two Service To Manchester Piccadilly?
London To Shrewsbury, Now And Post-High Speed Two
Travel On Monday
If I want to go to Shrewsbury next Monday, one fast journey is taking the 09:10 from Euston and changing at Crewe, which gives a journey time of two hours and thirty-two minutes.
I can also get a train with a change at Birmingham International that takes seven minutes longer.
Travel On High Speed Two
After High Speed Two opens to Birmingham Curzon Street and Interchange in Phase 1 what sort of times to Shrewsbury can be expected?
I estimate the following.
- Travelling via Birmingham Curzon Street could produce a time of around one hour and fifty minutes, if you’re lucky with the trains.
- Travelling via Crewe could produce a time of one hour and thirty minutes, if you’re lucky with the trains.
- Travelling via Interchange could produce a time of around one hour and fifty-five minutes. or forty-four minutes faster.
If I was going to Shrewsbury after High Speed Two has opened, I would probably change at Birmingham Curzon Street, if the walk to New Street station was still within my capabilities, as there will be a Turn-Up-And-Go frequency of four tph between Birmingham New Street and Shrewsbury stations.
Looking at the Midlands Connect objectives, these help with linking Shrewsbury with London.
- Increasing services between Birmingham and Shrewsbury to four tph, as it’s Turn-Up-And-Go!
- The direct hourly service to London from Shrewsbury, Wellington and Telford might be the quickest way to London by changing at Birmingham New Street/Curzon Street or Interchange.
- Doubling the service between Shrewsbury and Birmingham International, may be a good move, as Interchange, which will be connected to Birmingham International by a high capacity people mover, will have five tph between London Euston and Old Oak Common stations.
- Saving eleven minutes between Shrewsbury and Birmingham will certainly help.
Travelling between London and Telford, Wellington and Shrewsbury will be much improved.
Could The Crewe And Derby Line Become A Much More Important Route?
On the Midlands Connect web site, they have a page, which is entitled Derby-Stoke-Crewe.
This is the introductory paragraph.
Our plans have the potential to increase passenger demand on the corridor by 72%, with faster, more frequent services.
They then give the outline of their plans, which can be summed up as follows.
- Currently, the service is one train per hour (tph) and it takes 79 minutes.
- The service frequency will go to two tph.
- Twenty minutes could be saved on the second service by adjusting calling patterns.
- Improved links at Crewe for High Speed Two. This must have been written before Stafford and Stoke got the High Speed Two service to Macclesfield.
- East Midlands Railway are planning to extend the current Crewe and Derby service to Nottingham.
It seems a safe, and not overly ambitious plan.
These are my thoughts.
The Route
I have flown my virtual helicopter along the route and it appears to be double track all the way, except for a three mile section to the East of Crewe, that British Rail reduced to single track
However, in recent years the A5020 was built under the railway and the new bridge appears to have space for the second track to be restored, as this Google Map shows.
Note.
- The single track appears to be electrified, from the shadows of the gantries at either end of the bridge.
- West Midlands Trains appear to run an electric service between Crewe and Stafford on this route.
- I suspect it’s also used as a diversion route for Avanti West Coast’s Manchester service via Stoke-on-Trent or for train positioning.
Will this route allow High Speed Two trains to run between Stoke-on-Trent and Manchester Piccadilly?
From picture and comments in a rail forum, I suspect that the route could be redoubled fairly easily.
- The electrification runs for about 15.5 miles, between Crewe station and Stoke Junction, which is about half-a-mile on the other side of Stoke-on-Trent station.
- Trains seem to be connected to the electrification for over twenty minutes, so it could be useful for charging a battery train, running between Stoke-n-Trent and Crewe stations.
This Google Map shows Stoke Junction.
Note,
- Stoke-on-Trent station is to the North.
- The electrified railway going due South is the West Coast Main Line to Stone and Stafford stations.
- The line without electrification going off in a more South-Easterly direction is the line to Uttoxeter and Derby.
Following the route between Derby and Crewe, these are my observations.
- There is a level crossing at Blythe Bridge station.
- Most of the bridges over the route are modern, so I suspect will accept electrification.
- The route would appear to have a speed limit of 70 mph, but I would suspect that this could be increased somewhat as it doesn’t look too challenging.
- The route is 51 miles long, so a service that takes the current 79 minutes with nine stops, would average 38.7 mph.
- The proposed time of 59 minutes, would average 51.8 mph
I suspect there could be more to come, as the timetable is probably written for a Class 153 train.
A Crewe And Nottingham Service
The Midlands Connect plan says the service will be the following.
- Two tph
- A slow train in 79 minutes.
- A fast train in 59 minutes.
- East Midlands Railway want to extend services to Nottingham.
It could be a fairly simple easy-to-use timetable.
Fast Trains
Consider.
- Derby and Nottingham are 16 miles apart and fastest trains take between 19-22 minutes between the two cities.
- When it opens, all trains would stop at East Midlands Hub station between Nottingham and Derby.
- East Midlands Railway have a fleet that will include forty Class 170 trains.
- I suspect that these 100 mph trains will be able to run between Crewe and Nottingham including the turnround in under 90 minutes.
This would mean that a fast hourly service would need three trains.
Slow Trains
Consider.
- I wouldn’t be surprised to see the slower services continuing as now and not extending to Nottingham.
- 79 minutes is probably a convenient time, which would give a ninety minute time for each leg between Derby and Crewe, when turnround is included.
- Trains would be more of the Class 170 trains.
This would mean that a slow hourly service would need three trains.
Could Battery Electric Trains Be Used?
Consider.
- I think it is likely that the route between Derby and East Midlands Parkway via East Midlands Hub station, will be electrified, in conjunction with Midland Main Line electrification.
- Between Derby and Long Eaton stations via East Midlands Hub station is just under ten miles and takes ten minutes.
- Nottingham and Crewe is 66 miles of which 25 miles in total could be electrified.
- Derby and Crewe is 51 miles of which 15 miles are electrified.
- The longest section without electrification is between Derby station and Stoke Junction, which is 35.5 miles.
Batteries would be charged in the following places.
- Between Long Eaton and Derby stations.
- During turnround at a fully-electrified Derby station.
- Between Stoke-on-Trent and Crewe stations.
- During turnround at a fully-electrified Crewe station.
That’s a lot better than with an electric car.
In Sparking A Revolution, I quoted this Hitachi-specification for a battery-electric train.
- Range – 55-65 miles
- Performance – 90-100 mph
- Recharge – 10 minutes when static
- Routes – Suburban near electrified lines
- Battery Life – 8-10 years
I can’t see any problem with one of these trains or other battery-electric trains with a similar performance, running between Crewe and Nottingham or Derby via Stoke.
Could Hydrogen-Powered Trains Be Used?
I would suspect so, as the Alsthom Coradia iLint runs a similar route in Germany.
Connections To High Speed Two
Midlands Connect noted the route’s link to High Speed Two at Crewe.
But it also has other links to High Speed Two at Stoke-on-Trent and East Midlands Hub stations.
I suspect some stations like Uttoxeter or Alsager will have a choice of fast routes to London or Scotland.
Could Services Be Extended From Crewe?
In Connecting The Powerhouses, I talked about an article in the June 2017 Edition of Modern Railways, which proposed reopening the Midland Railway route between Derby and Manchester.
Some passengers and commentators fell a direct fast link is needed.
When High Speed Two is completed, the main route into Manchester Piccadilly will be a high speed spur from Crewe via Manchester Airport. Current plans include the following services.
- One tph from London Euston via Old Oak Common and Birmingham Interchange.
- Two tph from London Euston via Old Oak Common
- Two tph from Birmingham Curzon Street
Note.
- All services will call at Manchester Airport.
- It is likely that Northern Powerhouse Rail will add six tph to Manchester Piccadilly from Liverpool via Warrington.
- Some services will extend through Manchester Piccadilly to Bradford, Doncaster, Huddersfield, Hull, Leeds, Newcastle, Sheffield and York.
- High Speed lines will probably have a capacity of up to eighteen tph.
The Birmingham Curzon Street, Liverpool and London Euston services would be eleven tph, so there would be more than enough capacity for an hourly train from Nottingham.
What would the service be like?
- It would be between Nottingham and Manchester Piccadilly stations.
- It could call at East Midlands Hub, Derby, Uttoxeter, Stoke-on-Trent, Kidsgrove, Crewe and Manchester Airport stations.
- It would probably be hourly.
Timings could be as follows.
- Nottingham and Manchester Airport – 87 minutes
- Nottingham and Manchester Piccadilly – 91 minutes
- Derby and Manchester Airport – 67 minutes
- Derby and Manchester Piccadilly – 71 minutes
- Stoke-on-Trent and Manchester Airport – 32 minutes
- Stoke-on-Trent and Manchester Piccadilly – 36 minutes
The trains used on this and other local services that might need to use High Speed Two infrastructure would be performing a similar role as that of the Class 395 trains on High Speed One.
Possibilities must include.
- A classic-compatible High Speed Two train.
- A five-car AT-300 train, like East Midlands Railway’s Class 810 trains.
- An updated Class 395 train.
All trains would need a battery capability with a range of 40 miles.
It should also be noted that in Options For High Speed To Hastings, I worked through the options needed to run high speed commuter services to Hastings.
This was the last sentence in that post.
It’s all about selling trains and a company that had a 140 mph or 225 kph high-speed electric train, that could do perhaps 25 miles or 40 kilometres on batteries, would have a valuable addition to their product range.
A train with a range of 50 miles on battery power, would be suitable for the following routes.
- London St. Pancras and Hastings via Ashford International.
- Manchester Piccadilly and Nottingham via Manchester Airport, Crewe, Derby and East Midlands Hub.
- Manchester Piccadilly and Barrow-in-Furness via Manchester Airport, Warrington Bank Quay, Wigan North Western, Preston and Lancaster.
- Manchester Piccadilly and Chester via Manchester Airport and Crewe.
- Manchester Piccadilly and Shrewsbury via Manchester Airport and Crewe.
Charging might be needed at some of the terminal stations.
Discontinuous Electrification Through Leicester Station
Leicester station is an important station on the Midland Main Line
- Leicester is an urban area of half a million people.
- All of East Midlands Railway Intercity services call as they pass through the station.
- Leicester station is only sixteen miles North of the end of the Southern electrification at Market Harborough station.
- Birmingham New Street is 40 miles away.
- Clay Cross North Junction is 50 miles away.
- Derby is 29 miles away.
- East Midlands Parkway is 19 miles away.
- Long Eaton is 21 miles away.
- Nottingham is 27 miles away.
- Peterborough is 52 miles away.
- Sheffield is 66 miles away.
A sensible decision would probably be to extend the electrification from Market Harborough to a few miles North of Leicester, so that battery-electric trains could reach all the places in the above list.
Unfortunately, the following about the bridge at the Southern end of Leicester station, must be noted.
- The bridge doesn’t have sufficient clearance for electrification and would need to be rebuilt.
- It carries the main A6 road to London over the railway.
- The station building also spans the railway lines.
- To complicate matters, there is an important sewer either in or under the bridge.
This Google Map shows the bridge and the Southern end of the station.
It looks to me, that Leicester station and the road, would have to be closed to traffic for some time, if the bridge were to be rebuilt, to allow the erection of electrification through the area.
A solution could be discontinuous electrification.
- The electrification from the South, would finish on the South side of bridge.
- The electrification from the North, would finish in Leicester station.
- Electric trains would cover the gap of a few hundred metres on battery power.
Pantographs could be raised and lowered, where the wires exist.
- On the North side of the bridge, this could be in Leicester station, whilst passengers are getting off and on the train.
- On the South side of the bridge, this could be as far South as Market Harborough, which is sixteen miles away.
The other big problem area of electrification on the Midland Main Line is North of Derby, where the railway runs through the World Heritage Site of the Derwent Valley Mills. There might be serious opbjections to electrification in this area.
- But if electrification were to be installed between Leicester and Derby stations, the following would be possible.
- The Midland Main Line would be electrified at East Midlands Hub station.
- Power could be taken from High Speed Two’s supply at East Midland Hub station.
- Battery-electric trains could do a return trip to Nottingham from an electrified East Midlands Parkway, as it’s only sixteen miles in total.
- Battery-electric trains could reach the High Speed Two spur into Sheffield at Clay Cross from Derby, as it’s only twenty-one miles.
I am assuming, that Hitachi’s Class 810 trains will have range of over fifty miles on battery power, which fits with Hitachi’s statements.
Conclusion
Discontinuous electrification and batteries on trains can solve the problem of electrification through Leicester station.
Also. electric trains could run between London and Sheffield, if the following were done.
- The Class 810 trains were to be given a range of twenty-five miles
- Electrification were to be erected between Leicester and Derby stations.
- Electrification were to be erected between Sheffield and Clay Cross Junction, as required by High Speed Two.
The electrification could be brought forward, to bring Sheffield early benefits of High Speed Two.
The Definitive High Speed Two Route Map
This map is shown on the High Speed Two web site.
The map shows how it links to other routes.
- High Speed Two joins the West Coast Main Line at Crewe and South of Wigan.
- High Speed Two uses a route via Stafford and Stoke-on-Trent to serve Macclesfield.
- High Speed Two uses the current Crewe and Liverpool route to serve Runcorn and Liverpool.
- High Speed Two to Manchester Piccadilly share tracks with Northern Powerhouse Rail between Liverpool and Manchester Piccadilly via Warrington and Manchester Airport.
- High Speed Two uses the loop around Crewe to Wigan to serve North West England and Scotland.
- High Speed Two joins the East Coast Main Line South of York, to serve York, Darlington, Durham and Newcastle.
- High Speed Two joins the Midland Main Line at Clay Cross North Junction to serve Chesterfield and Sheffield.
- High Speed Two has connections to Midlands Rail Engine at Birmingham, Crewe and East Midlands Hub.
- High Speed Two has connections to Northern Powerhouse Rail at Liverpool, Manchester Airport, Manchester Piccadilly, Sheffield and Leeds.
High Speed Two To The North West Of England
This map clipped from the High Speed Two web site, shows High Speed Two routes in the North West of England.
Note.
- When shown in orange, High Speed Two will use new tracks.
- When shown in blue, High Speed Two will use existing tracks.
- New stations are shown as large blue dots.
- High Speed Two and the West Coast Main Line appear to share a corridor through Crewe, before dividing near Walley’s Green.
- High Speed Two loops to the East of the West Coast Main Line and rejoins it South of Wigan between Bryn Gates and Abram Brow.
The route will or might serve the following stations in North West England.
Blackpool North
Blackpool North station is not planned to be served by High Speed Two.
But the station has been recently rebuilt.
- It has a number of platforms, that are capable of handling 200 metre long classic-compatible High Speed Two trains.
- The route to High Speed Two at Preston is fully electrified.
- In a couple of years, it will be connected to Blackpool’s expanding tramway.
- Blackpool would welcome High Speed Two with open arms.
Blackpool North would be an ideal extra destination, if more trains were to be split and joined at Crewe.
But whatever happens, I believe that high speed commuter trains will run from Blackpool North.
- Blackpool and Manchester Piccadilly via Preston, Wigan North Western, Warrington Bank Quay and Manchester Airport.
- Blackpool and Derby via Preston, Wigan North Western, Warrington Bank Quay, Crewe and Stoke-on-Trent.
Blackpool North has the platforms and electrification and it will be used.
Carlisle
Carlisle station is a through station on the current Glasgow service and can handle a nine-car Class 390 train which is over 210 metres long, which means they can handle a 200 metre long, classic-compatible High Speed Two train.
But two tph will be 400 metre London Euston and Edinburgh/Glasgow trains, so platform lengthening will probably be required.
There will be the following trains.
- Birmingham Curzon Street and Carlisle – I tph – 118 minutes
- London Euston and Carlisle – 2 tph – 154 minutes.
After any necessary platform lengthening, Carlisle will be ready and waiting for High Speed Two and will be reached in Phase 1 of the project.
The High Speed Two web site, says Carlisle will be reached in Phase 2b, but as Edinburgh and Glasgow are part of Phase 1, this must be a mistake.
Crewe
Crewe station is at the bottom of the map, just to the right of centre.
The station gets this introduction on this page of the High Speed Two web site.
HS2 services will call at Crewe, where passengers will be able to access the high speed network heading south. Journey times to London will be cut to under an hour. Macclesfield, Stafford and Stoke-on-Trent will also receive HS2 services, spreading the benefits of better connectivity.
The page also says that between five and seven trains per hour (tph) will call at Crewe.
Lancaster
Lancaster station is a through station on the current Glasgow service and can handle a nine-car Class 390 train which is over 210 metres long, which means they can handle a 200 metre long, classic-compatible High Speed Two train.
Lancaster will also be a terminus of 200 metre long classic-compatible High peed Two train from London Euston, so there may need to be refurbishment to handle the larger, if not longer train.
The use of Lancaster as a terminus, would appear to have the following advantages.
- The platform is already there.
- Using Lancaster as a terminal, may reduce the scope of works at Carlisle and Preston.
- The one tph service from London Euston is effectively a High Speed Northern stopper between Lancaster and Crewe, with calls at Warrington Bank Quay, Wigan North Western and Preston stations.
- Lancaster has connections to Barrow-in-Furness, Heysham Port and Morecambe and the scenic Cumbrian Coast and Settle-Carlisle Lines.
- Paces like Barrow-in-Furness. Morecambe and a host of other stations, should save forty-three minutes on journeys to and from London.
I think that Lancaster, is a good place to terminate a service in the North-West of England.
There will be the following trains.
- Birmingham Curzon Street and Lancaster – I tph – 65 minutes
- London Euston and Lancaster – 1 tph – 101 minutes.
After the necessary refurbishment, Lancaster will be ready and waiting for High Speed Two and will be reached in Phase 2b of the project.
But I do feel that Lancaster could be reached in Phase 1 of the project, if necessary works North of Preston and at Lancaster station were planned as an independent project.
Liverpool Lime Street
Liverpool Lime Street station is at the Western edge of the map, at the end of the Liverpool Branch of the West Coast Main Line.
Liverpool gets this headline and brief description on this page of the High Speed Two web site.
The City Region Wants To Deliver a World Class Transport Network
Its ambitious plans would integrate the existing HS2 route and builds on the Northern Powerhouse Rail proposals for high speed, east-west links directly into Liverpool City Centre.
Liverpool has made a good start to prepare for High Speed Two.
- The Grade II Listed; Lime Street station now has lengthened platforms and an improved layout so that it can handle two 200 metre long High Speed Two trains per hour.
- Merseyrail is taking delivery of a fleet of new Class 777 trains to update their suburban network.
- By the time High Speed Two arrives in the city, the suburban network will be larger.
Liverpool is ready and waiting for High Speed Two and will be reached in Phase 1 of the project.
Macclesfield
Macclesfield station is at the Eastern edge of the map, at the end of its own leg of High Speed Two.
The station was the surprise destination added, during the last iteration of High Speed Two.
- The late, great Brian Redhead, who lived in the town would be very pleased.
- The station was rebuilt in 1960 and has three platforms.
- It is planned to have one tph to London Euston via Stoke-on-Trent, Stafford and Old Oak Common.
- The visualisation on this page of the High Speed Two web site, also shows three platforms, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a fourth added, as the extra platform would add flexibility.
The second surprise for Macclesfield, is that like Liverpool, it will be reached in Phase 1 of the project.
Manchester Airport
Manchester Airport station is the Southern large blue dot at the top of the map.
This page on the High Speed Two web site is rather sparse on information about Manchester Airport station.
I have combined train times given on the web page, with frequencies from an article in the June 2020 Edition of Modern Railways to create this table, which should be valid after the completion of High Speed Two.
- Birmingham Curzon Street and Manchester Airport – 2 tph – 32 minutes
- Birmingham Interchange and Manchester Airport – 1 tph – 29 minutes
- London Euston and Manchester Airport – 3 tph – 63 minutes
- London Old Oak Common and Manchester Airport – 3 tph – 56 minutes
- Manchester Piccadilly and Manchester Airport – 5 tph – 6 minutes
In Changes Signalled For HS2 Route In North, I stated that Northern Powerhouse Rail were proposing the following Liverpool and Manchester service.
Manchester Airport station will be reached in Phase 2b of the project.
- Six tph
- Stops at Manchester Airport and Warrington.
- An end-to-end journey time of 26 minutes.
This would do the following.
- Add a Liverpool and Manchester Airport service with a frequency of 6 tph, that will take 20 minutes.
- Add a Warrington Parkway and Manchester Airport service with a frequency of 6 tph that will take around 10 minutes.
- Increase the frequency between Manchester Piccadilly and Manchester Airport to 11 tph. Or more likely 12 tph.
How many cities have an airport connection running every five minutes using trains running at 125 mph?
As these Liverpool and Manchester services would probably start in places like Hull and Newcastle and come via varied routes that included a selection of Bradford, Doncaster Huddersfield, Leeds and Sheffield, all of the North, that lies to the East of the Pennines will be connected to Manchester Piccadilly, Manchester Airport and Liverpool by high speed trains.
Manchester Piccadilly
Manchester Piccadilly station is the Northern large blue dot at the top of the map.
This page on the High Speed Two web site is rather sparse on information about Manchester Piccadilly station.
Using the same data as before I can create a table of services from Manchester Piccadilly station, where I have included Liverpool and Manchester services, that will be run by Northern Powerhouse Rail.
- Birmingham Curzon Street – 2 tph – 40 minutes
- Birmingham Interchange – 1 tph – 37 minutes
- London Euston – 3 tph – 67 minutes
- London Old Oak Common – 3 tph – 60 minutes
- Manchester Airport – 12 tph – 6 minutes
- Liverpool – 6 tph – 26 minutes
Manchester Piccadilly station will be reached in Phase 2b of the project.
Oxenholme Lake District
Oxenholme Lake District station is a through station on the current Glasgow service and can handle a nine-car Class 390 train which is over 210 metres long, which means they can handle a 200 metre long, classic-compatible High Speed Two train.
There will be the following trains.
- Birmingham Curzon Street and Oxenholm Lake District – I tph – 79 minutes
- London Euston and Oxenholme Lake District – 115 minutes – Change at Preston
Oxenholme Lake District is ready and waiting for High Speed Two and will be reached in Phase 2b of the project.
But I do feel that Oxenholme Lake Districtcould be reached in Phase 1 of the project, if necessary works North of Preston and at Lancaster station were planned as an independent project
Penrith North Lakes
Penrith North Lakes station is a through station on the current Glasgow service and can handle a nine-car Class 390 train which is over 210 metres long, which means they can handle a 200 metre long, classic-compatible High Speed Two train.
There will be the following trains.
- Birmingham Curzon Street and Penrith North Lakes – I tph – 102 minutes
- London Euston and Penrith North Lakes – 138 minutes – Change at Preston
Penrith North Lakes is ready and waiting for High Speed Two and will be reached in Phase 2b of the project.
But I do feel that Penrith North Lakes could be reached in Phase 1 of the project, if necessary works North of Preston and at Lancaster station were planned as an independent project
Preston
Preston station is a through station on the current Glasgow service and can handle a nine-car Class 390 train which is over 210 metres long, which means they can handle a 200 metre long, classic-compatible High Speed Two train.
But two tph will be 400 metre London Euston and Edinburgh/Glasgow trains, so platform lengthening will probably be required.
There will be the following trains.
- Birmingham Curzon Street and Preston – I tph – 50 minutes
- London Euston and Preston – 3 tph – 78 minutes.
After any necessary platform lengthening, Preston will be ready and waiting for High Speed Two and will be reached in Phase 1 of the project.
Runcorn
Runcorn station is a through station on the Liverpool service and can handle a nine-car Class 390 train which is over 210 metres long, which means they can handle a 200 metre long, classic-compatible High Speed Two train.
There will be two tph between London Euston and Runcorn and trains will take 74 minutes.
Runcorn is ready and waiting for High Speed Two and will be reached in Phase 1 of the project.
Stafford
Stafford station is a through station on the Macclesfield service and can handle a nine-car Class 390 train which is over 210 metres long, which means they can handle a 200 metre long, classic-compatible High Speed Two train.
There will be one tph between London Euston and Stafford and trains will take 54 minutes.
Sfafford is ready and waiting for High Speed Two and will be reached in Phase 1 of the project.
Stoke
Stoke station is a through station on the Macclesfield service and can handle a nine-car Class 390 train which is over 210 metres long, which means they can handle a 200 metre long, classic-compatible High Speed Two train.
There will be one tph between London Euston and Stoke and trains will take 71 minutes.
Stoke is ready and waiting for High Speed Two and will be reached in Phase 1 of the project.
Warrington
Warrington Bank Quay station is a through station on the current Glasgow service and can handle a nine-car Class 390 train which is over 210 metres long, which means they can handle a 200 metre long, classic-compatible High Speed Two train.
There will be the following trains.
- Birmingham Curzon Street and Warrington Bank Quay – I tph – 25 minutes
- London Euston and Warrington Bank Quay – 1 tph – 73 minutes.
Warrington Bank Quay is ready and waiting for High Speed Two and will be reached in Phase 1 of the project.
Wigan
Wigan North Western station is a through station on the current Glasgow service and can handle a nine-car Class 390 train which is over 210 metres long, which means they can handle a 200 metre long, classic-compatible High Speed Two train.
There will be the following trains.
- Birmingham Curzon Street and Wigan North Western – I tph – 36 minutes
- London Euston and Wigan North Western – 1 tph – 84 minutes.
Wigan North Western is ready and waiting for High Speed Two and will be reached in Phase 1 of the project.
High Speed Rail Link To Lift Baltic Economies By Up To 0.6 Per Cent
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on Emerging Europe.
This is the first two paragraphs.
A major new report from Swedbank, a Nordic-Baltic banking group based in Stockholm, Sweden, claims that the construction of a high speed rail link between the Estonian capital Tallinn and Lithuania’s border with Poland could lift GDP in each of the three Baltic states by between 0.2 and 0.6 per cent.
In addition to the direct economic impact in terms of public investment and jobs, the ambitious project will also help the region meet its environmental goals and bring in new technology and know-how.
The article is a must-read and has left me thinking, what will High Speed Two do for the UK?
The Route Of High Speed Two Into Birmingham
This map clipped from the High Speed Two web site, shows the route of the line to its terminus in Birmingham Curzon Street station.
Note.
- Birmingham Curzon Street station is indicated by the blue dot in the West.
- Interchange station is indicated by the blue dot in the South-East corner of the map.
- There is a large triangular junction connecting the spur to Birmingham Curzon Street to the main North-South route of High Speed Two.
This second map is an enlargement of the South-East corner of the map.
Note.
- The road across the bottom of the map is the A45,
- The large circular roundabout roughly at the halfway [point is where the M42 crosses the A45 at Junction 6.
- The Junction at the Eastern edge of the map is where the A452 crosses the A45.
- High Speed Two goes roughly North-South between the M42 and the A452.
- When shown in red, High Speed Two is on an embankment.
- When shown in yellow, High Speed Two is in a tunnel.
- The large blue dot is the position of the Interchange station.
- The existing Birmingham International station is on the other side of the M42.
- The two stations will be connected by a people mover.
This description of the Interchange station is from this page on the High Speed Two web site.
The Interchange Station itself will be made up of two 415 metre long island platforms, offering 4 platform faces, as well as 2 central high speed through lines for non-stopping services. The station will be linked to the NEC, Birmingham International Station and Birmingham Airport via an automated people mover carrying up to 2,100 passengers per hour in each direction. In addition to the APM, the station will be fully integrated with other local buses, taxis and private vehicle options.
This third map is an enlargement of the triangular junction.
Note.
- The M6 going West to Spaghetti Junction, Birmingham and the North.
- The M42 and the M6 Toll going North-South.
- When shown in red, High Speed Two is on an embankment.
- When shown in yellow, High Speed Two is in a tunnel.
The junction seems to have been fitted around the motorways using a series of embankments and tunnels.
This fourth map shows the approach to the City.
Note.
- The spur appears to run alongside the elevated section of the M6.
- Spaghetti Junction is in the North-West corner of the map.
- The Western junction of the triangular junction is at the Eastern edge of the map.
- When shown in brown, High Speed Two is on the surface.
- When shown in black, High Speed Two is in a cutting.
- Or are black and brown, the other way round, as I can’t find the legend for the map.
The spur seems to have been neatly fitted in alongside the M6.
This fifth map shows the route as it terminates in Birmingham Curzon Street station.
Note.
- The A38 (M) that connects the City Centre to Spaghetti Junction at the top of the map.
- High Speed Two appears to approach the City Centre on a viaduct. But then trains between London and Birmingham New Street and Birmingham Moor Street stations, do the same.
- The three stations are within a reasonable walking distance and there will also be a tram connection.
- The journey time between Birmingham Curzon Street and Interchange stations is planned to be nine minutes.
This page on the High Speed Two web site, gives more details on Birmingham Curzon Street station.
Splitting And Joining Of High Speed Two Trains
In Existing Stations Where High Speed Two Trains Will Call, I looked at how existing stations will need to be modified to handle the High Speed Two service pattern described in an article, which is entitled HS2 Minister Backs 18 tph Frequency, in the June 2020 Edition of Modern Railways.
The article states that splitting and joining of trains will take place at three stations; Carlisle, Crewe and East Midlands Hub.
To successfully split and join the pairs of 200 metre long High Speed Two trains, the following will be needed.
- 400 metre long platforms, that can handle the pair of trains.
- Excellent signage, so that passengers get into the right train and leave for the right destination.
- Efficient crew methods, so that drivers are in the correct cabs at the right time.
For many years trains at Cambridge and several places South of London have successfully split and joined.
This video shows two Class 395 trains coupling and uncoupling automatically.
It;s impressive and I suspect High Speed Two’s trains will be equally good or even better at this procedure.
Why Is Split And Join Needed For High Speed Two?
According to the Modern Railways article, the full High Speed Two service will be as follows in trains per hour (tph) and trains per two hours (tp2h)
- 1 tph – London Euston and Birmingham Curzon Street via Old Oak Common (OOC) – 400 metres
- 2 tph – London Euston and Birmingham Curzon Street via OOC and Birmingham Interchange – 400 metres
- 1 tph – London Euston and Lancaster via OOC, Crewe, Warrington Bank Quay, Wigan North Western and Preston – London Euston and Liverpool Lime Street via OOC, Crewe and Runcorn – 200+200 metres with Split/Join at Crewe
- 1 tph – London Euston and Liverpool Lime Street via OOC, Crewe and Runcorn – 200 metres
- 1 tph – London Euston and Macclesfield via OOC, Stafford and Stoke-on-Trent – 200 metres
- 1 tph – London Euston and Manchester Piccadilly via OOC, Birmingham Interchange and Manchester Airport – 400 metres
- 2 tph – London Euston and Manchester Piccadilly via OOC and Manchester Airport – 400 metres
- 1 tph – London Euston and Edinburgh Waverley via OOC, Preston, Carlisle and Edinburgh Haymarket – London Euston and Glasgow Central via OOC, Preston and Carlisle – 200 +200 metres with Split/Join at Carlisle
- 1 tph – London Euston and Edinburgh Waverley via OOC, Birmingham Interchange, Preston, Carlisle and Edinburgh Haymarket – London Euston and Glasgow Central via OOC, Preston and Carlisle – 200 +200 metres with Split/Join at Carlisle
- 1 tp2h – Birmingham Curzon Street and Edinburgh Waverley via Wigan North Western, Preston, Lancaster, Oxenholme, Penrith and Edinburgh Haymarket – 200 metres
- 1 tp2h – Birmingham Curzon Street and Glasgow Central via Wigan North Western, Preston, Lancaster, Oxenholme, Penrith, Lockerbie and Motherwell – 200 metres
- 2 tph – Birmingham Curzon Street and Manchester Piccadilly via Manchester Airport – 200 metres
- 2 tph – Birmingham Curzon Street and Leeds via East Midlands Hub – 200 metres
- 1 tph – Birmingham Curzon Street and Newcastle via East Midlands Hub, Darlington and Durham – 200 metres
- 1 tph – London Euston and Sheffield via OOC and East Midlands Hub – London Euston and Leeds via OOC and East Midlands Hub – 200 + 200 metres with Split/Join at East Midlands Hub
- 1 tph – London Euston and Leeds via OOC and East Midlands Hub – 400 metres
- 1 tph – London Euston and Leeds via OOC, Birmingham Interchange and East Midlands Hub – 400 metres
- 1 tph – London Euston and Sheffield via OOC, East Midlands Hub and Chesterfield – London Euston and York via OOC and East Midlands Hub – 200 + 200 metres with Split/Join at East Midlands Hub
- 1tph – London Euston and Newcastle via OOC and York – 200 metres
- 1 tph – London Euston and Newcastle via OOC, York and Darlington – 200 metres
Note.
- Trains 10 and 11 share the same path in alternate hours.
- Birmingham Curzon Street is effectively a second Southern terminus.
- Seventeen tph leave London Euston and Old Oak Common for the North, of which eight are 400 metre trains, five are a pair of 200 metre trains and four are 200 metre trains.
As the five pairs of 200 metre trains Split/Join en route, this effectively means, that London Euston is served by twenty-two tph.
It would appear that Split/Join is important, as it allows the same number of train paths between London Euston and the North to support more services.
Could Any Other Trains Be Split And Joined?
I don’t see why not!
There are eight tph going North from London Euston and Old Oak Common, that are 400 metre long trains that don’t Split/Join
- 3 tph – Birmingham Curzon Street
- 2 tph – Leeds
- 3 tph – Manchester Piccadilly
Note.
- Each 400 metre train would appear to have a capacity of around 1,100 passengers.
- Leeds is also served by another 200 metre train from London.
Effectively, this gives the following passenger capacities between London and the three major cities.
- Birmingham – 3,300
- Leeds – 2,750
- Manchester – 3,300
If these capacities have been carefully predicted, performing a Split/Join on these trains might cause a shortage of capacity.
There are four single 200 metre trains, that could be doubled up for their run to the North.
- London Euston and Liverpool Lime Street via OOC, Crewe and Runcorn
- London Euston and Macclesfield via OOC, Stafford and Stoke-on-Trent
- London Euston and Newcastle via OOC and York
- London Euston and Newcastle via OOC, York and Darlington
In theory, these four trains could be doubled to provide extra services.
But there are two problems.
Where Would The Trains Split and Join?
- Train 1 could Split/Join at Crewe.
- Train 2 could Split/Join at Stafford, if the platforms were lengthened to accept a pair of 200 metre trains.
- Trains 3 and 4 would need to stop at East Midlands Hub to Split/Join
It would appear that four extra trains could be run into London Euston, by running all single trains as pairs.
Where Would The Extra Services Terminate?
There are possibilities on the Western leg of High Speed Two.
- An extra train for Liverpool Lime Street
- An extra train for Lancaster
- A direct train for the current Manchester Piccadilly via Wilmslow and Stockport
- A direct train for Blackpool
But the Eastern leg of High Speed Two is more of a problem.
- An extra train for Sheffield
- A direct train for Hull.
Hull could be served via a new junction between High Speed Two and the Hull-Leeds Line to the North-West of Garforth or perhaps by extending a service from Sheffield.
Could Any Services North From Birmingham Curzon Street Be Split And Joined?
These 200 metre services go North from Birmingham Curzon Street station.
- 1 tp2h – Birmingham Curzon Street and Edinburgh Waverley via Wigan North Western, Preston, Lancaster, Oxenholme, Penrith and Edinburgh Haymarket
- 1 tp2h – Birmingham Curzon Street and Glasgow Central via Wigan North Western, Preston, Lancaster, Oxenholme, Penrith, Lockerbie and Motherwell
- 2 tph – Birmingham Curzon Street and Manchester Piccadilly via Manchester Airport
- 2 tph – Birmingham Curzon Street and Leeds via East Midlands Hub
- 1 tph – Birmingham Curzon Street and Newcastle via East Midlands Hub, Darlington and Durham.
Note that trains 1 and 2 share the same path in alternate hours.
There may be scope to double up some of these trains, to serve extra destinations in the North from Birmingham Curzon Street.
Conclusion
Split/Join is a powerful tool to increase the number of services without spending a fortune on new infrastructure.
Existing Stations Where High Speed Two Trains Will Call
The June 2020 Edition Of Modern Railways has an article called HS2 Minister Backs 18 tph Frequency, which gives a detailed diagram of the route structure of High Speed Two and it is possible to summarise the stations, where High Speed Two trains will call.
- Carlisle – 3 tph – 400 metres – Split/Join
- Chesterfield – 1 tph – 200 metres
- Crewe – 2 tph – 400 metres – Split/Join
- Darlington – 2 tph – 200 metres
- Durham – 1 tph – 200 metres
- East Midlands Hub HS2 – 7 tph – 400 metres – Split/Join
- Edinburgh Haymarket – 2.5 tph – 200 metres
- Edinburgh Waverley – 2.5 tph – 200 metres – Terminal
- Glasgow Central – 2.5 tph – 200 metres – Terminal
- Lancaster – 2 tph – 200 metres – Terminal
- Leeds HS2 – 5 tph – 400 metres
- Liverpool Lime Street – 2 tph – 200 metres – Terminal
- Lockerbie – 1 tph – 200 metres
- Macclesfield – 1 tph – 200 metres – Terminal
- Manchester Airport HS2 – 5 tph – 400 metres
- Manchester Piccadilly HS2 – 5 tph – 400 metres
- Motherwell – 0.5 tph – 200 metres
- Newcastle – 3 tph – 200 metres – Terminal
- Oxenholme – 0.5 tph – 200 metres
- Penrith – 0.5n tph – 200 metres
- Preston – 4 tph – 400 metres
- Runcorn – 2 tph – 200 metres
- Sheffield – 2 tph – 200 metres
- Stafford – 1 tph – 200 metres
- Stoke-on-Trent – 1 tph – 200 metres
- Warrington Bank Quay – 1 tph – 200 metres
- Wigan North Western – 1 tph – 200 metres
- York – 4 tph – 200 metres
Note.
- HS2 after the station name indicates a new station for High Speed Two
- tph is trains per hour
- 0.5 tph is one train per two hours (tp2h).
- 200/400 metres is the maximum length of trains that will call.
- Terminal indicates that trains will terminate at these stations.
- Split/Join indicates that trains will split and join at these stations.
These are more detailed thoughts on how existing stations will need to be modified.
Train Lengths
Before, I look at the individual stations, I’ll look at the train lengths.
- High Speed Two train – Single – 200 metres
- High Speed Two train – Pair – 400 metres
- Class 390 train – 11-car – 265.3 metres
- Class 390 train – 9-car – 217.5 metres
- Class 807 train – 7-car – 182 metres
- Class 810 train – 5-car – 120 metres
- Class 810 train – Pair of 5-car – 240 metres
- InterCity 125 – 2+8 – 220 metres
- InterCity 225 – 9-car – 245 metres
- Class 222 train – 4-car – 93.34 metres
- Class 222 train – 5-car – 116.16 metres
- Class 222 train – 7-car – 161.8 metres
- Class 222 train – 4-car+5-car – 209.5 metres
- Class 222 train – 5-car+5-car – 232.32 metres
These are the thoughts on the individual stations.
Carlisle
Carlisle station will need two 400 metre through platforms, so each can accommodate a pair of 200 metre trains.
This Google Map shows the station.
I estimate the platforms are about 380 metres, but it looks like, they could be lengthened, without too much difficulty.
As High Speed Two trains to the North of Carlisle will be 200 metres long, there would probably be no need for platform lengthening North of Carlisle, as these trains are shorter than the Class 390 trains, that currently work the routes to Edinburgh and Glasgow.
Carlisle station is step-free, has good secondary rail connections and is within walking distance of the city centre.
The only thing it needs, is a connection to Edinburgh on a rebuilt Borders Railway.
Chesterfield
Consider.
- Chesterfield station will need to handle 200 metre trains.
- Chesterfield station may be rebuilt for High Speed Two.
- Chesterfield station can handle an InterCity 125, which is 220 metres.
- It will need to handle a pair of Class 810 trains, which would be 240 metres.
This Google Map shows Chesterfield station.
Note.
- The slow lines passing the station on the Eastern side.
- There are two long through platforms and a third bi-directional platform on the down slow line.
There is space to build two long platforms for High Speed Two, but is it worth it, when one one tph will stop?
- According to High Speed Two’s Journey Time Calculator, trains will take just twelve minutes between Sheffield and Chesterfield stations.
- This compares with 12-15 minutes for the current diesel trains.
- The distance between the two stations is 14 miles, which means that a twelve minute trip has an average speed of 70 mph.
- If there are still two tph to St. Pancras, there will be four tph, that run fast between the Sheffield and Chesterfield stations, of which three will stop at Chesterfield.
I think this could result in a simple and efficient design for the tracks between Sheffield and South of Clay Cross, where High Speed Two joins the Erewash Valley Line.
Chesterfield station is step-free.
Crewe
Crewe station will need two 400 metre through platforms, so each can accommodate a pair of 200 metre trains.
This Google Map shows the station.
There have been references to rebuilding of Crewe stations, but it does appear that some platforms are over 300 metres long.
Darlington
Darlington station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
As it already accommodates 245 metre InterCity 225 trains, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
Durham
Durham station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
As it already accommodates 245 metre InterCity 225 trains, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
Edinburgh Haymarket
Edinburgh Haymarket station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
As it already accommodates 245 metre InterCity 225 trains, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
Edinburgh Waverley
Edinburgh Waverley station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
As it already accommodates 245 metre InterCity 225 trains, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
Glasgow Central
Glasgow Central station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
As it already accommodates 265 metre Class 390 trains, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
Currently, Avanti West Coast runs the following services to Glasgow Central.
- One tph from London Euston calling at Warrington Bank Quay, Wigan North Western, Preston, Lancaster, Oxenholme Lake District (1tp2h), Penrith (1tp2h) and Carlisle.
- One tp2h from London Euston calling at Milton Keynes Central, Coventry, Birmingham International, Birmingham New Street, Sandwell and Dudley, Wolverhampton, Crewe, Warrington Bank Quay, Wigan North Western, Preston, Lancaster, Oxenholme Lake District (1tp2h), Penrith (1tp2h) and Carlisle.
High Speed Two is proposing to run the following trains to Glasgow Central.
- Two tph from London Euston calling at Old Oak Common, Preston and Carlisle.
- One tp2h from Birmingham Curzon Street calling at Wigan North Western, Preston, Lancaster, Oxenholme (1tp2h), Penrith (1tp2h), Carlisle, Lockerbie and Motherwell (1tp2h)
If the current services to Glasgow Central were to be replaced by the High Speed Two services, most travellers would get a similar or better service.
But if Avanti West Coast decide to drop their classic services to Glasgow via Birmingham, will travellers starting between Milton Keynes and Crewe, be a bit miffed to lose their direct services to Glasgow?
Glasgow Central station would appear to be ready for High Speed Two.
Lancaster
I was initially surprised, that on High Speed Two, one tph would terminate at Lancaster station.
This Google Map shows the station.
Note.
- There are two bypass lines without any platforms on the Western side of the tracks, where trains can speed through.
- The station has five platforms.
- Some Avanti West Coast services terminate at Lancaster station.
- 265 metre, eleven-car Class 390 trains, stop in Lancaster station.
As High Speed Two services will use 200 metre trains, which are shorter than all Class 390 trains, I would suspect that High Speed Two services will be able to be turned at Lancaster station, without too much difficulty.
Liverpool Lime Street
Liverpool Lime Street station will need to be able to turn two 200 metre High Speed Two tph.
- The remodelling of the station in 2018, probably allowed for two tph between London Euston and Liverpool Lime Street station.
- From 2022-2023, it will be turning two Class 807 trains per hour, which will probably be 182 metres long.
Liverpool Lime Street station may well be ready for Phase One of High Speed Two. It’s also very much step-free.
There are also alternative plans for a new High Speed station in Liverpool.
- It would be alongside the current Liverpool Lime Street station.
- The station would have a route to High Speed Two at Crewe via Warrington and a junction at High Legh.
- Northern Powerhouse Rail would start in the station and go to Manchester via Warrington, High Legh and Manchester Airport.
- It would enable six tph between Liverpool and Manchester, in a time of just 26 minutes.
I talked about this plan in Changes Signalled For HS2 Route In North, where I included this map.
High Legh Junction is numbered 5 and 6.
Nothing published about High Speed Two, would appear to rule this plan out.
Lockerbie
Lockerbie station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
As it already accommodates 265 metre Class 390 trains, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
Macclesfield
I was initially surprised, that on High Speed Two, one tph would terminal at Macclesfield station.
This Google Map shows the station.
Wikipedia says this about the platforms in the station.
There are three platforms but only two are in regular use, the up platform for services to Manchester and the down platform to Stoke-on-Trent and Birmingham. Platform 3 sees a small number of services. Evidence of a fourth platform can be seen, on which a Network Rail building now exists.
As the station has a regular Avanti West Coast service every hour, the platforms must be over 200 metres long and they will be long enough for the 200 metre High Speed Two trains.
So why would High Speed Two want to terminate a train at Macclesfield, rather than at Manchester Piccadilly as they do now?
Currently, Avanti West Coast runs these services between London Euston and Manchester Piccadilly.
- One tph via Milton Keynes Central, Stoke-on-Trent and Stockport.
- One tph via Stoke-on-Trent, Macclesfield and Stockport
- One tph via Stafford, Crewe, Wilmslow and Stockport
The diagram in the Modern Railways article shows these High Speed Two services to Manchester Piccadilly.
- One tph from London Euston via Old Oak Common, Birmingham Interchange and Manchester Airport
- Two tph from London Euston via Old Oak Common and Manchester Airport
- Two tph from Birmingham Curzon Street via Manchester Airport.
Note.
- None of these five tph serve Macclesfield, Milton Keynes Central, Stockport, Stoke-on-Trent or Wilmslow.
- All five proposed services are shown to call at Manchester Airport.
- It is likely, that a tunnel will be bored between Manchester Airport and Manchester Piccadilly stations.
- The High Speed Two station at Manchester Piccadilly might even be in a tunnel under the current Manchester Piccadilly station or central Manchester.
- A below-ground High Speed Two station for Manchester could also serve Northern Powerhouse Rail services to Leeds and the East.
- According to the plans, I talked about under Liverpool Lime Street earlier, there could also be up to six tph running between Liverpool and Manchester via Manchester Airport, as part of Northern Powerhouse Rail.
Plans need to be developed to serve the towns and cities, that will not be served by High Speed Two’s current proposals.
- It appears Stafford, Stoke-on-Trent and Macclesfield will be served by an independent High Speed Two service from London Euston.
- Terminating one tph at Macclesfield station doesn’t appear to be challenging.
- A rail route between Macclesfield and Manchester Airport to link up with the proposed tunnel could be very difficult.
- Manchester Piccadilly and Macclesfield stations have a frequent rail connection, with most trains calling at Stockport station.
- Perhaps during construction work for High Speed Two in the centre of Manchester, Macclesfield station can be used as an alternative route into the city, using the existing Manchester Piccadilly station.
The London Euston and Macclesfield service via Stafford and Stoke-on-Trent could be a pragmatic solution to part of the problem, but what about Milton Keynes, Wilmslow and Stockport?
According to the title of the Modern Railways article, High Speed Two will have a maximum frequency of 18 tph.
When fully-developed, the current proposed timetable shows the following.
- A frequency of 17 tph between London Euston and Birmingham Interchange stations.
- A frequency of 11 tph between Birmingham and Crewe.
- A frequency of 9 tph through East Midlands Hub station.
It would appear that if there is a capacity bottleneck, it is between London and Birmingham.
However if classic services to Manchester Piccadilly are replaced by the High Speed Two services to the city via the new tunnel from Manchester Airport to a new station in the City Centre, there will be spare capacity on the Crewe and Manchester Piccadilly route via Wilmslow and Stockport stations.
This could lead to a number of solutions.
- A direct High Speed Two service runs using the spare path, between London and the current Manchester Piccadilly station.
- Similar to the previous service, but the service splits and joins at Crewe, with one individual train going to Manchester Piccadilly and the other somewhere else. Blackpool?
- One service between London and Liverpool is planned to split and join at Crewe with individual trains going to Lancaster and Liverpool. The other Liverpool service could split at Crewe with individual trains going to Liverpool and Manchester Piccadilly.
- The service between London and Macclesfield is run by a pair of trains, that split at Birmingham Interchange, with individual trains going to Macclesfield and Manchester Piccadilly. The advantage of this service, is that if you got into the wrong train, you’d still be going to roughly the same destination.
- Wikipedia says “At peak times, the current Avanti West Coast services may additionally call at one or more of: Watford Junction, Rugby, Nuneaton, Tamworth, Lichfield Trent Valley.” So why not run classic services on the West Coast Main Line between Euston and Manchester Piccadilly via Milton Keynes using suitably fast trains. Perhaps, the new Class 807 trains would be ideal.
Note.
- All services serving the current Manchester Piccadilly station would call at Crewe, Wilmslow and Stockport stations.
- Passengers going to or from Manchester Airport would change at Crewe.
The more I look at Macclesfield, the more I like using it as a High Speed Two destination.
Motherwell
Motherwell station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
As it already accommodates 265 metre Class 390 trains, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
Newcastle
Newcastle station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
As it already accommodates 245 metre InterCity 225 trains, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
Oxenholme
Oxenholme station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
As it already accommodates 265 metre Class 390 trains, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
Penrith
Penrith station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
As it already accommodates 265 metre Class 390 trains, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
Preston
Preston station will need two 400 metre through platforms, so each can accommodate a pair of 200 metre trains.
This Google Map shows the station.
I estimate that the main through platforms aren’t much short of the required 400 metres.
But something must be done to make the station step-free.
Runcorn
Runcorn station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
As it already accommodates 217 metre Class 390 trains, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem. The station is also step-free.
Sheffield
Sheffield station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
This Google Map shows the station.
As the station can already handle a 220 metre InterCity 125, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem. The station is also substantially step-free.
Stafford
Stafford station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
This Google Map shows the station.
As it already accommodates 265 metre Class 390 trains, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem. The station is also step-free.
Wikipedia says this about Stafford station and High Speed Two.
Under current proposals, Stafford will be a part of the High Speed 2 network, via a ‘Classic Compatible’ junction, which will allow HS2 trains to operate to Stafford, and further on towards Liverpool. This would shorten journey time from Stafford to London, to an estimated 53 minutes. Under current proposals it is expected that an hourly services will operate in both directions, however it is currently unclear if these services will terminate at Stafford, or Liverpool.
This does appear to be rather out of date with High Speed Two’s latest proposals as disclosed in the Modern Railways article, which say that Stafford is served by the following service.
- One tph between London Euston and Macclesfield.
- Calls at Old Oak Common, Stafford and Stoke-on-Trent.
- A 200 metre train.
One possibility must surely be to run a pair of 200 metre trains to and from Stafford, where they would split and join.
- One could go as currently proposed to Stoke-on-Trent and Macclesfield.
- The second train could go to Liverpool via Crewe and Runcorn or Manchester Piccadilly via Crewe, Wilmslow and Stockport.
- The recent works at Norton Bridge Junction will have improved the route for the second train.
There would need to be platform lengthening at Stafford to accommodate the 400 metre pair of trains.
A split and join at Stafford does show the possibilities of the technique.
Another possibility is mentioned for Stafford in Wikipedia.
There is also been proposals to reintroduce services to Stafford to terminate on the Chase Line which was cutback to Rugeley Trent Valley in 2008. The Key Corridors states “Extension of Chase Line services to Stafford”. This is proposed to be in development.
It will surely connect a lot of people to Stafford for High Speed Two.
The extract from Wikipedia, that I used earlier, mentions a Classic Compatible junction, which will allow High Speed Two trains to reach Stafford.
This map clipped from the High Speed Two web site, shows the junction North of Lichfield, where High Speed Two connects to the Trent Valley Line through Stafford.
Note.
- High Speed Two runs North-South across the map.
- After the Junction by Fradley South,
- High Speed Two to Crewe and the North, is the branch to the East.
- The other branch connects to the Trent Valley Line, which can be picked out North of Lichfield, where it passes through Lichfield Trent Valley station.
The Trent Valley Line is no Victorian double-track slow-speed bottleneck.
- Most of the route between Rugby and Stafford is three or four tracks.
- The speed limit is generally 125 mph.
- I wouldn’t be surprised to see Avanti West Coast’s Class 390 and Class 807 trains running at 140 mph on the route.
- This speed would probably be attained by High Speed Two trains.
London Euston and Stafford would only have under twenty miles of slower line and that could be 140 mph, so High Speed Two times on the route could be very fast. High Speed Two is quoting 54 minutes on their Journey Time Calculator.
Stoke-on-Trent
Stoke-on-Trent station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
This Google Map shows the station.
As it already accommodates 265 metre Class 390 trains, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem. The station is also step-free.
Warrington Bank Quay
Warrington Bank Quay station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
As it already accommodates 265 metre Class 390 trains, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
Wigan North Western
Wigan North Western station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
In Is Wigan North Western Station Ready For High Speed Two?, I said this.
Wigan North Western station would accept a single-train now, but the platforms would need lengthening to handle a double-train.
As all trains through Wigan North Western station will only be 200 metre single trains and the station is step-free, the station appears to be ready for High Speed Two.
York
York station will need to accommodate 200 metre trains.
As it already accommodates 245 metre InterCity 225 trains, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
Conclusion
I have come to these conclusions.
- Because most of these stations have been rebuilt in the last few decades to accommodate the 200-plus metre InterCity 125s, InterCity 225s and Class 390 trains, all the stations can handle a 200 metre High Speed Two train without significant lengthening.
- Some stations like Carlisle, Crewe, Preston and Stafford may need a small amount of platform lengthening to accommodate a pair of trains, but most of the improvements needed for a world-class High Speed railway will be more refurbishment than a complete rebuild.
- Using existing platforms at Lancaster and Macclesfield stations as terminal platforms is an elegant and a much more affordable solution than building new stations or even platforms.
- Because all five tph into the High Speed Two station at Manchester Piccadilly go via Manchester Airport, I would envisage that this will be in a tunnel, that can be part of a future Northern Powerhouse Rail.
I also think that the plan has been devised with the Project Management and minimising disruption to travellers in mind.
Will The East Coast Main Line Give High Speed Two A Run For Its Money To The North East Of England?
I have looked up High Speed Two timings on their Journey Time Calculator and compared them with current LNER timetables.
- London-Leeds – Current – 136 minutes – HS2 – 81 minutes
- London-York – Current – 111 minutes – HS2 – 84 minutes
- London – Darlington – Current – 141 minutes – HS2 – 112 minutes
- York- Darlington – Current – 27 minutes – HS2 – 26 minutes
- London – Durham – Current – 170 minutes – HS2 – 138 minutes
- York – Durham – Current – 45 minutes – HS2 – 44 minutes
- London – Newcastle – Current – 170 minutes – HS2 – 137 minutes
- York – Newcastle – Current – 55 minutes – HS2 – 51 minutes
- London – Edinburgh – Current – 259 minutes – HS2 – 220 minutes
- Newcastle – Edinburgh – Current – 83 minutes – HS2 – 83 minutes
- York – Edinburgh – Current – 138 minutes – HS2 – 134 minutes
Note.
- I have assumed that Newcastle and Edinburgh takes 83 minutes, which is the current timing.
- The time savings possible to the North of Leeds are only a few minutes.
- As an example, the straight route between York and Darlington is 34 miles, which means an average speed of only 75 mph.
Serious work needs to be done North of York to improve timings.
Improvements To The East Coast Main Line
Various improvements to the East Coast Main Line are in process of building designed or built.
Extra Tracks
These example of more tracks are from the Wikipedia entry for the East Coast Main Line.
- Four tracks are being restored between Huntington and Woodwalton.
- Freight loops between York and Darlington.
There are probably other places, which will see extra tracks in the next few years.
Power Supply And Electrification
Wikipedia identified places where the power supply and the electrification could be better.
This sentence indicates the comprehensive nature of the planned work.
Power supply upgrades (PSU) between Wood Green and Bawtry (Phase 1 – completed in September 2017) and Bawtry to Edinburgh (Phase 2), including some overhead lines (OLE) support improvements, rewiring of the contact and catenary wires, and headspan to portal conversions (HS2P) which were installed at Conington in January 2018.
The Hertford Loop Line is also due to have some power supply upgrades.
Station Improvements
Darlington, Kings Cross, Stevenage and York will have track improvements, which will improve the capacity of the tracks through the stations.
Werrington Dive Under
The Werrington Dive Under will be a big improvement. This is an extract from the Wikipedia entry.
The project will see the construction of 1.9 miles (3 km) of new line that will run underneath the fast lines, culverting works on Marholm Brook and the movement of the Stamford lines 82 feet (25 m) westwards over the culverted brook. This will mean that trains for the GN/GE line no longer need to cross the fast lines on the level, nor use the Up Fast line between Peterborough station and the junction. The project, coupled with other ECML improvement schemes (such as the four tracking from Huntingdon to Woodwalton) will improve capacity on the line through Peterborough by 33% according to Network Rail. This equates to two extra train paths an hour by 2021, when the work is scheduled to be completed. In turn, this will remove 21 minutes from the fastest King’s Cross to Edinburgh Waverley service, and 13 minutes from the fastest King’s Cross to Leeds service. It will also see an increase of 1,050 ‘intercity’ seats per hour on express trains through Peterborough.
The upgrade will add two more train paths to the route and knock 21 and 13 minutes off the faster Edinburgh and Leeds services respectively.
The Newark Flat Crossing
This is the railway equivalent of a light-controlled pedestrian crossing in the middle of a motorway.
This Google Map shows the crossing.
Note.
- The East Coast Main Line running roughly North-South
- The A 46 road crossing the line.
- The Nottingham-Lincoln Line running parallel to the railway.
- A chord allowing trains to go between the Nottingham-Lincoln Line and Newark North Gate station, which is to the South.
- The River Trent.
Complicated it certainly is!
I wrote about the problems in The Newark Crossing and felt something radical needed to be done.
Looking at the numbers of trains at the Newark Crossing.
- The number of trains crossing the East Coast Main Line, is typically about three to five trains per hour (tph) and they block the East Coast Main Line for about two minutes.
- But then there could be a fast train around every four minutes on the East Coast Main Line, with eight tph in both directions.
The numbers of trains and their speeds would probably cut out a Control Engineer’s solution, where all trains are computer controlled through the junction.
Although, it might be possible to reduce the number of conflicting trains on the East Coast Main Line dramatically, by arranging a Northbound and a Southbound express passed each other at the flat junction.
There’s also the problem of what happens if a crossing train fails, as it goes over the East Coast Main Line. But that must be a problem now!
Whatever happens here will be a well-thought through solution and it will add to the capacity of the East Coast Main Line and increase the line-speed from the current 100 mph.
Level Crossings
Wikipedia says this about level crossings.
Level crossing closures between King’s Cross and Doncaster: As of July 2015 this will no longer be conducted as a single closure of 73 level crossings but will be conducted on a case-by case basis (for example, Abbots Ripton Level Crossing will close as part of the HW4T scheme).
It is my personal view that all should be removed.
ERTMS Signalling
Wikipedia says this about the installation of ERTMS digital in-cab signalling.
The line between London King’s Cross and Bawtry, on the approach to Doncaster, will be signalled with Level 2 ERTMS. The target date for operational ERTMS services is December 2018 with completion in 2020.
Note that, ERTMS is needed for 140 mph running.
140 mpg Running
Wkipedia says this about 140 mph running.
Increasing maximum speeds on the fast lines between Woolmer Green and Dalton-on-Tees up to 140 mph (225 km/h) in conjunction with the introduction of the Intercity Express Programme, level crossing closures, ERTMS fitments, OLE rewiring and the OLE PSU – est. to cost £1.3 billion (2014). This project is referred to as “L2E4” or London to Edinburgh (in) 4 Hours. L2E4 examined the operation of the IEP at 140 mph on the ECML and the sections of track which can be upgraded to permit this, together with the engineering and operational costs.
A rough calculation indicates that up to eleven minutes could be saved by this upgrade, between London and Darlington.
Prospective Timings On The East Coast Main Line
Consider.
- The package of new trains level crossing closures, ERTMS, OLE rewiring and the OLE PSU, which is collectively known as L2E4 should deliver Edinburgh in four hours.
- Nineteen minutes need to be saved on current times.
- I believe that if the train takes four hours or less, travellers will switch from the airlines.
- High Speed Two are aiming for a time of 220 minutes, but is this by the West or East Coast routes?
- As their proposed Glasgow service has a similar time, I assume it is by the West Coast route.
- Wikipedia states that an Open Access Operator was thinking of running Class 390 trains or Pendelinos between London Kings Cross and Edinburgh in 223 minutes.
If the managers of LNER are the least bit ambitious, I can see them wanting to run a service between London and Edinburgh, in a time that is several minutes under four hours.
It should always be remembered that the East Coast Main Line was built for speed, as these true stories illustrate.
- Mallard set the world speed record for steam locomotives in 1938 of 126 mph, on the line.
- The record time between London and Edinburgh was set in 1991 by an InterCity 225 train at a minute under three-and-a-half hours.
I even have my own special memory of the line, which I wrote about in The Thunder of Three-Thousand Three-Hundred Horses. Behind a Deltic or Class 55 locomotive, I went from Darlington to London in two hours and fifteen minutes, which is faster than today’s fastest trains. Not bad for a 1960s design, but the train was a coach short and had a clear run. And was probably extremely-well driven.
Is the East Coast Main Line and especially the section South of Darlington, a route, where a knowledgeable driver can coax the maximum out of a high speed train?
Possible savings over the next few years include.
Werrington Junction
When this is completed, it could knock twenty-one minutes off the timings to Edinburgh.
Newark Crossing
How much time could be saved here?
There must be some time savings if the line speed can be increased from 100 mph.
140 mph Running
The various improvements in L2E4 are intended to enable services to run between London and Edinburgh in under four hours.
- Does L2E4 include any possible time savings from the Werrington Dive Under?
- Does L2E4 include any possible time savings from improvements at Newark?
- What is the completion date for L2E4?
- Most of the time savings for L2E4 will be South of Darlington as the track is straighter.
As I said earlier a rough calculation indicates that L2E4 will save about eleven minutes to the South of Darlington.
Conclusion
There must be over thirty minutes of savings to be accumulated on the East Coast Main Line. Much of it because of the Werrington and Newark improvements will be South of Darlington.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see timings like these.
- London-Leeds – Current – 136 minutes – HS2 – 81 minutes – Possible ECML – 120 minutes
- London-York – Current – 111 minutes – HS2 – 84 minutes – Possible ECML – 90 minutes
- London – Darlington – Current – 141 minutes – HS2 – 112 minutes – Possible ECML – 115 minutes
- London – Durham – Current – 170 minutes – HS2 – 138 minutes – Possible ECML – 130 minutes
- London – Newcastle – Current – 170 minutes – HS2 – 137 minutes – Possible ECML – 130 minutes
- London – Edinburgh – Current – 259 minutes – HS2 – 220 minutes – Possible ECML – 210 minutes
It looks to me, that the East Coast Main Line could be fulfilling the aspirations of British Rail’s engineers of the 1980s.






















