Coach Chaos At The Finchley Road Coach Stop On A Sunday Lunchtime
I went to Finchley Road coach stop at lunchtime today and took these pictures.
Note.
- Finchley Road coach stop is on the Finchley Road, just to the North of Finchley Road tube station.
- The Finchley Road coach stop is lavelled CL.
- Not all coaches stopped at the Finchley Road coach stop.
- I did see a double-deck coach taking visitors to the Harry Potter Attraction pass through ar Victoria Coach station and the Finchley Road.
- There is a pedestrian subway under Finchley Road.
- There is a second stop for Southbound coaches on the other side of the Finchley Road.
- There are a few tatty shops along the pavement selling snacks, coffee, tea and other travellers needs.
- In the early pictures note, the large number of travellers queuing along the pavement in front of those shops.
- It looks like a lot of those travellers, were waiting for the Flixbus.
- The Flixbus stayed parked for several minutes.
- Finchley Road tube station is not step-free.
- Finchley Road tube station is served by the Metropolitan and Jubilee Lines.
I took most of the pictures from the opposite site to the Northbound coach stop, as the pavement was rather crowded.
This Google Map shows Finchley Road, the tube station and the coach stop.
Note.
- The Finchley Road is the dual-carriageway road.
- The two grey dots at the Northend end of the Finchley Road, indicate the Coach stop and to its North a bus stop.
- The larger orange dot indicates the Tortilla restaurant, which is visible in several of the pictures.
- The London Underground roundel indicates Finchley Road tube station.
- The building curving away to the North-West is the train shed for the four platforms of Finchley Road tube station.
South of Finchley Road tube station, is a large Waitrose in the old John Barnes building.
This pictures show some of the Train to Street access at Finchley Road station.
Note.
- There is a high step out of the Jubilee Line trains.
- The steps from platform to the street are steep with a heavy case or a baby in a buggy.
But it’s a long time, since I’ve done any travelling with a baby.
I have some further thoughts.
Travelling With Heavy Luggage, In A Wheelchair Or A Baby Buggy
It might be better to take a 13 or 113 bus to Finchley Road tube station, as the stop is just South of the station and no more than fifty metres from the Finchley Road coach stop.
You could even get the bus from Swiss Cottage station, which is the next station South from Finchley Road and has a complete set of traditional escalators with uplighters.
Note.
Extending The Sheffield Tram-Train To Adwick
I must admit, I very much like the Class 399 tram-trains in Sheffield and their German cousins in Karlsruhe.
I am not alone, as talking to an experienced Sheffield tram driver, he said that the extra power of the Class 399 tram-trains have over the Supertrams, mean they handle Sheffield’s hills with ease, when the tram-trains are full.
They have a top speed of 62 mph compared to a British Rail Class 150 train being able to manage 75 mph.
Passenger capacity of the two trains is probably about the same.
The Current Tram-Train Service
The service has the following characteristics.
- This runs between Sheffield Cathedral and Rotherham Parkgate via Meadowhall South and Rotherham Central stations.
- Services run every thirty minutes.
- I have heard rumours that an extra stop is going to be be added at Magna Science Adventure Centre.
London Overground and local rail services in Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester and other cities in the UK, seem to run at a frequency of four trains per hour (tph).
The Current Northern Rail Service Between Sheffield And Adwick Via Doncaster
The service has the following characteristics.
- This runs between Sheffield and Aswick stations via Meadowhall, Rotherham Central, Swinton, Mexborough, Conisbrough, Doncaster and Bentley stations.
- Services run every hour.
- The service passes Rotherham Parkway Shopping Centre, but doesn’t stop.
Is there a need for this Northern Rail service to stop at Rotherham Parkway Shopping Centre?
The Current Electrification Between Sheffield And Rotherham
This OpenRailwayMap shows the electrified lines between Sheffield and Rotherham Parkway.
Note.
- Mauve tracks are electrified with 750 VDC overhead wires, so they can power Sheffield’s trams and tram-trains directly.
- Black tracks are not electrified.
- Meadowhall and its rail and tram interchange is in the South-West corner of the map.
- Note how mauve lines indicate the electrified tram tracks, that curve round the Meadowhall Shopping Centre.
- The blue arrow in the North-East corner indicates Rotherham Parkgate tram stop.
- The mauve line diagonally across the map, indicates the current electrification between Meadowhall South and Rotherham Parkgate tram stops.
- Magna Science Adventure Centre, is just to the South of the electrified Sheffield-Rotherham tram-line.
This second OpenRailwayMap shows the rail and tram lines between Sheffield and Rotherham in more detail.
Note.
- Track colours are as in the first map.
- The blue arrow in the North-East corner of the map indicates Holmes junction and is the route that Northern Rail’s current Sheffield and Adwick service takes.
- Sheffield and Rotherham Central stations are 6.1 miles apart.
- Sheffield and Adwick stations are 22.7 miles apart, but the Northern four miles between Doncaster and Adwick are electrified with 25 KVAC overhead wires.
This would indicate that a tram-train with a range of about twenty miles on battery power would be able to handle the route, if it could charge its batteries on the electrified lines.
Terminating a Sheffield And Adwick Service In Sheffield
This OpenRailwayMap shows the rail and tram lines in and through Sheffield station.
Note.
- Rail lines are in orange.
- Tram lines are in mauve.
- Platform numbers in Sheffield station are shown as blue dots. Click on the map to show it on a larger scale.
- Sheffield Cathedral tram stop is in the North-West corner of the map.
- The triangular junction in the North-East corner of the map, allows trams to use all the main tram lines that go in three directions. A touch of genius as it gives a lot of flexibility, when adding extra services.
Currently, termination of the services from Rotherham and Doncaster is as follows.
- The tram-train terminates at the Sheffield Cathedral tram stop with a frequency of two tph.
- The train terminates in Platform 3 in Sheffield station with an hourly frequency.
- As typically a terminal platform can handle 4 tph, I don’t see why a second Sheffield and Adwick service can’t be running every hour into Sheffield station.
A short length of overhead electrification would need to be added on Platform 3 to recharge any tram-trains terminating in the platform.
It could also become a tram and run to any of the other destinations served from the triangular junction; Halfway, Herdings Park or Malin Bridge. This would allow batteries to be charged as the tram-trains ran across the city.
Remember, Sheffield station is likely to be electrified with 25 KVAC overhead wires in connection with running electric trains between London St. Pancras and Sheffield.
If the four bay platforms at Sheffield station, were to be electrified, then these would be ideal for recharging any battery-electric trains or tram-trains, that terminated in the station.
Battery-Electric Trains Between Manchester And Sheffield
Consider.
- Manchester Piccadilly station is already fully electrified.
- Currently, all Manchester Piccadilly and Sheffield, terminate in Platform 8 at Sheffield station.
- The distance between the electrification at Manchester Piccadilly and Platform 8 at Sheffield station is 40.2 miles.
- CAF are promising battery-electric versions of their Class 331 trains.
With a battery range of fifty miles, which is not outrageous, Manchester and Sheffield could be an electric service for the first time since January 1970, when the Woodhead route was closed.
FirstGroup’s Proposed London King’s Cross And Sheffield Service
This open access service might happen, although with this Government of all the Lawyers we have, who can predict anything.
- If it does happen, it is likely that the trains will be battery-electric Class 802 trains.
- These will be the same as those that will be run by Hull Trains.
- Battery range will be sufficient to handle Retford and Sheffield, which is 23.3 miles and much shorter than Temple Hirst junction and Beverley.
These trains will also need charging at Sheffield.
The current Sheffield and Adwick service terminates in platform 3 at Sheffield station, so this platform would probably need to have tramway electrification, so that it could charge the trams.
Updating Rotherham Parkgate Tram Stop
My preference would be for four tph passing through Rotherham Parkgate tram stop in both directions, so this would be a tram-train every seven minutes and thirty seconds, if there was only one platform as now.
I’m fairly sure, that Rotherham Parkgate tram stop needs to have a platform in both directions.
This Google Map shows the tram stop.
Note.
- The double-track rail line between Meadowhall and Doncaster curving to the South of the Rotherham Parkgate Shopping Centre.
- The Rotherham Parkgate tram stop on a spur from the rail line.
I am pretty certain, that a two-platform station could be squeezed in.
A Bespoke Tram-Train For The UK
Trams, tram-trains, trains and anything that runs on rails is generally very expensive.
Does this partly explain, why the UK has relatively few urban tramways and railways?
In Stadler Presents Mock-Up Of Tram-Trains For German And Austrian Operators, I discussed how five German and Austrian operators had got together to create a common tram-train design, that would be suitable for all the operators.
The mayor of one of the cities involved in the joint order, said savings of the order of a million euros per vehicle may have resulted from the common design.
I would also feel that savings in operational costs, design of infrastructure, spares inventory and other costs would also result.
Identical tram-trains would make through running between networks easier.
Where Could Tram-Trains Be Used In The UK?
Consider.
- Currently, tram-trains are running in Sheffield and a battery-electric version of the same Stadler Citylink tram-train will soon be running in Cardiff.
- Cardiff, is developing a Cardiff Crossrail on tram-train principles across the city.
- Sheffield have said that they will be replacing their trams and I believe they could use developments of their excellent Stadler tram-trains.
- Sheffield is likely to extend their tram system and might include tram-trains to Doncaster.
- Cities that have talked about adding tram-trains to their tram networks include Birmingham, Blackpool, Manchester and Nottingham.
- Leeds is developing a metro system, which could be developed using tram-train principles.
- Glasgow has talked about a tram-train to Glasgow Airport for some time.
- The East-West Rail Link is proposing a tram-train link between Ipswich and Felixstowe to allow more freight trains into the Port of Felixstowe.
There could be quite a number of tram-trains being used in the UK, especially if they are used as at Felixstowe, to increase freight capacity into ports.
These are a few of my thoughts.
Battery-Electric Tram-Trains
I would envisage, that a lot of the new tram-trains would operate using batteries. Especially, as battery-electric trains are showing quite long ranges of upwards of thirty miles.
Already trams in Birmingham and trains on Merseyside, are operating using batteries and it avoids the expense of putting up catenary, if enough exists to charge the trams.
Replacement of Diesel Multiple Units By Battery-Electric Tram-Trains
There are some branch lines, where diesel multiple units run off a branch of an electrified main line.These services could be decarbonised by changing the rolling stock.
This OpenRailwayMap shows the St. I’ves Bay Line in Cornwall.
Note.
- The St. Ives Bay Line is shown in yellow.
- The Southern terminal is St. Erth station, where it connects to the Cornish Main Line, which is shown in orange.
- The Northern terminal is St. Ives station, which is towards the top of the map.
- The St. Ives Bay Line is 4.25 miles long.
- No tracks are electrified.
- There are three intermediate stations.
This second OpenRailwayMap shows St. Erth station in more detail.
Note.
- The St. Ives Bay Line has its own platform at the side of the station.
- I am fairly certain, that some form of charging could be installed in this platform.
- At the other side of the Cornish Main Line are two sidings, which could be used for cleaning and maintenance.
A neat zero-carbon branch line could easily be created.
New Branch Lines To New Developments
In Sheffield Region Transport Plan 2019 – A New Tram-Train Route To A New Station At Waverley, I gave my view on a tram-train loop from the Sheffield-Lincoln Line to serve the Advanced Manufacturing Centre and new housing at Waverley.
The tram-train would run as a train to the branch line for the development and then run as a battery-electric tram, through the development.
As the Midland Main Line to Sheffield will be electrified, the tram-trains could be charged on the electrification in Sheffield station.
Build Them In Doncaster
Wabtec are closing Doncaster works.
Surely this would be the site to assemble the scores of tram-trains that could be needed in the UK.
Conclusion
Tram-trains could do a lot to improve the railways of the UK.
They would also help to decarbonise the existing system.
A Road Scheme That Appears To Going Nowhere
This article on the BBC is entitled A57 Link Roads Mottram Bypass: Charity Seeks Judicial Review.
This is the sub-heading.
Environmental campaigners are seeking a judicial review of proposals designed to ease road congestion between Manchester and Sheffield.
And these are the first two paragraphs.
Plans for the A57 Link Roads Mottram Bypass scheme were boosted in November when Transport Minister Huw Merriman granted a development consent order.
But countryside charity the CPRE said there was no evidence building a new road “moves away a traffic problem”.
I remember this area well from the 1960s, when I was studying at Liverpool University and my parents lived in Felixstowe.
- There was no motorway across the Midlands between Coventry and Stafford and the alternative of the A5 was a nose-to-tail crawl.
- The M62 was still in the design phase.
So I took to using this cross-country route.
- A45 between Felixstowe and Huntingdon.
- A1 to Worksop, which was mainly dual-carriageway.
- A57 to Manchester, through Sheffield and Glossop, which was and still is single-track.
- A580 to Liverpool.
I think my best time was about five hours in a 1954 Morris Minor.
I feel, I must have gone through Mottram in Longdendale, judging by the map on the BBC article.
It is interesting to read the Wikipedia entry for the Longdendale Bypass, which starts like this.
The Longdendale Bypass (also known as the A57/A628 Mottram-in-Longdendale, Hollingworth & Tintwistle Bypass) is a long-planned road scheme in England by the Highways Agency. The aim is to alleviate traffic congestion on the A57 road/A628 road/A616 road routes that presently pass through the villages. There is both support and opposition for this long-planned scheme which will pass through the valley of Longdendale and part of the Peak District National Park.
The scheme was approved by the Highways Agency in 2014, so politicians have not exactly been quick off the mark.
These are some choice phrases from the Wikipedia entry.
- It is used by a relatively large number of heavy goods vehicles.
- Supporters of the scheme say that the A628 is one of the most congested A-road routes in the country.
- There is no viable alternative to a bypass.
- A survey in 2010 found that the junction of the A57 and M67 was the most congested in Manchester.
It is a disaster and the intervention by the CPRE will further delay a solution.
Conclusion
It is problems like this, that lead me to one solution.
On the one hand, you improve the railways and on the other you bring in universal road charging.
Hopefully passengers and freight will find a happy equilibrium.
But voters wouldn’t like it and any Government, that brought it in would lose the next election to a yet-to-be-formed Motorists Party.
Red Wall Commuters To Get Rail Revolution
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on The Sunday Times.
This is the first paragraph.
Nearly £100 billion will be spent on England’s railways outside London, including the construction of three new high-speed lines that will cut journey times in half.
The paper is also predicting that the Birmingham and Leeds leg of High Speed Two will be scrapped.
The three new high speed lines are.
- Birmingham and East Midlands Parkway
- Leeds and Sheffield
- Manchester and Crewe.
I have felt for some time, that timings between London and Yorkshire can be upgraded almost to High Speed Two levels by upgrading the Midland Main and the East Coast Main Lines.
I shall be doing some calculations, when the schemes are announced on Thursday.
Northern Powerhouse Rail Progress As Recommendations Made To Government
The title of this post, is the same as that of this article on Transport for the North.
This is the introductory paragraph.
Northern leaders have agreed an initial preferred way forward for a new railway network that will transform the region’s economy.
And these are the rail improvements proposed.
- A new line to be constructed from Liverpool to Manchester via the centre of Warrington, Read more…
- A new line to be constructed from Manchester to Leeds via the centre of Bradford. Read more…
- Significant upgrades and journey time improvements to the Hope Valley route between Manchester and Sheffield. Read more…
- Connecting Sheffield to HS2 and on to Leeds. Read more…
- Significant upgrades and electrification of the rail lines from Leeds and Sheffield to Hull. Read more…
- Significant upgrades of the East Coast Mainline from Leeds to Newcastle (via York and Darlington) and restoration of the Leamside Line. Read more…
The Read more links point to my initial thoughts.
No more detail is given, but the list is followed by this paragraph.
The move comes ahead of the much-anticipated publication of a new report that will set out long-term investment plans for rail upgrades in the North. The Government’s Integrated Rail Plan – due to be published by the end of this year – is expected to recommend how investment in rail projects like Northern Powerhouse Rail, HS2 Phase 2b, and the TransPennine Route Upgrade (a separate project) will be delivered.
I am waiting for the Government’s Integrated Rail Plan with interest.
Why Is Manchester The Odd City Out?
I find the different reactions of the large Northern cities interesting.
I have seen no comment and moaning from Leeds, Newcastle and Sheffield, and Liverpool and the rest of Lancashire seems to have accepted their Tier 3. fate.
Only Manchester seems to have a serious objection.
I know Liverpool well, as I went to Liverpool University in the 1960s, met my late wife there and we lived together in the city for a couple of years.
I still visit the City regularly, as I like the city’s weather and outlook and do business with my old University.
I have visited Manchester many times, often for football (I support Ipswich, despite being a Londoner!) and I find the city very different to Liverpool.
But I don’t seem to warm to Manchester, as I do to Liverpool and the other large cities of the North.
Or is it Manchester doesn’t warm to me?
Andy Burnham is not a Mancunian and could it be, that his hard stand against the Government, is driven by wanting to be more Mancunian, than the Mancunians.
Manchester puzzles me, but it does seem to be out of step with the rest of the North.













































































































