The Anonymous Widower

Does The UK Need More Passenger Train Capacity Between London And Scotland?

I went from London Euston to Wigan North Western and Blackpool North stations on Wednesday.

Just after the Bank Holiday, the train to the North, which was going to Glasgow Central,  seemed fairly busy, but I suspect that a few more souls could have been squeezed in.

Coming South in the early evening, there was a lot more space, but those that had gone to Scotland for the Bank Holiday weekend had probably returned.

At the moment, I am getting a lot of adverts like this, when I read The Times on-line.

It looks to me, that Avanti West Coast, are ecouraging travellers to use trains to travel to and from Glasgow.

How Many Anglo-Scottish Trains Are There?

  • Avanti West Coast – 6 tpd – London Euston to Edinburgh Waverley via Birmingham New Street
  • Avanti West Coast – 6 tpd – London Euston to Glasgow Central via Birmingham New Street
  • Avanti West Coast – 1 tph  – London Euston to Glasgow Central via Trent Valley
  • CrossCountry – 1 tph – Plymouth to Edinburgh Waverley
  • LNER – 2 tph – London King’s Cross to Edinburgh Waverley
  • Lumo – 6 tpd – London King’s Cross to Edinburgh Waverley and Glasgow Queen Street
  • Lumo – 4 tpd – London Euston to Stirling
  • TransPennine Express – 1 tp2h – Manchester Airport to Glasgow Central
  • TransPennine Express – 1 tp2h – Manchester Airport to Edinburgh Waverley
  • TransPennine Express – 4 tpd – Liverpool Lime Street to Glasgow Central

Note.

  1. tpd is trains per day.
  2. tph is trains per hour.
  3. tp2h is trains per two hours.
  4. The two Avanti West Coast services via Birmingham New Street alternate.
  5. The Avanti West Coast London Euston to Glasgow Central via Trent Valley service runs 15 tpd.
  6. The two TransPennine Express services from Manchester Airport to Scotland alternate.

My initial estimate is that there are 5 x 15 tph +16 tpd or 91 tpd.

How Many Anglo-Scottish Trains Are There On HS2?

In the original design for HS2, this was the service pattern.

Note.

  1. Train 10 runs hourly between London and Scotland via Old Oak Common and Preston and splits at Carlisle with one train serving Edinburgh Waverley and the other Glasgow Central.
  2. Train 11 runs hourly between London and Scotland via Old Oak Common, Birmingham Interchange and Preston and splits at Carlisle with one train serving Edinburgh Waverley and the other Glasgow Central.
  3. Train 12 runs hourly between Birmingham Curzon Street and Scotland and serves Edinburgh Waverley and Glasgow Central alternatively.

It looks like HS2 contributes 5 tph between England and Scotland or 75 tpd.

But as HS2 is currently configured, these Anglo-Scottish trains will still run.

  • CrossCountry – 1 tph – Plymouth to Edinburgh Waverley
  • LNER – 2 tph – London King’s Cross to Edinburgh Waverley
  • Lumo – 6 tpd – London King’s Cross to Edinburgh Waverley and Glasgow Queen Street
  • Lumo – 4 tpd – London Euston to Stirling
  • TransPennine Express – 1 tp2h – Manchester Airport to Glasgow Central
  • TransPennine Express – 1 tp2h – Manchester Airport to Edinburgh Waverley
  • TransPennine Express – 4 tpd – Liverpool Lime Street to Glasgow Central

If these trains continue to run my estimate is that there will be 4 x 15 tph +14 tpd or 74 tpd by classic routes.

This will mean 149 Anglo-Scottish tpd in total.

How Do You Get Between Leeds, Bradford, Sheffield and Hull, and Scotland?

If you look at the diagram, which shows the service pattern for HS2, note the following.

  • HS2 does not provide a service between Leeds, York, Durham, Darlington and Newcastle, and Scotland.
  • HS2 doesn’t connect to Bradford.
  • HS2 doesn’t go past Leeds, but the current LNER services also serve Bradford Forster Square, Harrogate, Shipley and Skipton stations.

There is also no direct trains from the Leeds/Bradford area to Glasgow.

But Consider.

  • The Settle and Carlisle Line runs between Skipton and Carlisle and used to host the Thames-Clyde Expresses that were run by the London Midland & Scottish Railway.
  • The Wikipedia entry for the Thames-Clyde Express is an interesting read.
  • Bradford Forster Square station was recently extended with two platforms , that can handle 10-car trains.
  • Bradford Forster Square station has seven trains per day from London via Leeds.
  • With a reverse at Bradford Forster Square station trains can call at Leeds, Bradford Forster Square and Skipton stations before taking the Settle and Carlisle Line to Carlisle.
  • The Thames-Clyde Express used to take the Glasgow South Western Line to Glasgow Central calling at Dumfries and Kilmarnock.
  • LNER’s Class 897 tri-mode trains will probably be able to handle the Settle and Carlisle and the Glasgow South Western Line, without using the diesel engines.
  • East Midlands Railway’s Class 810 trains, when fitted with batteries, should probably be able to do the same.

There are a lot of possibilities of how the Settle and Carlisle Line can be used to increase zero-carbon connectivity between Glasgow and London.

 

May 9, 2026 Posted by | Transport/Travel | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment